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Minnesota Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar, in a newly resurfaced clip of an old interview, joked about people saying "Al Qaeda" and "Hezbollah" in a severe tone -- while noting nobody says words like "America" that way.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up,” Omar said during an interview from 2013 when she was an activist within the Somali community, chuckling as she imitated the professor saying "Al Qaeda" and "Hezbollah."
Omar went on to contrast the way people say the names of terror groups with how they pronounce the names of western powers:
“But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.”
During the same 2013 interview, Omar described acts of terrorism as a reaction to “our involvement in other people’s affairs” following the brutal al-Shabab attack on a Kenyan shopping mall in 2013 that killed nearly 70 people and wounded 200.
“When are we gonna decide or realize that terrorism is a reaction? It’s an ideology, it’s a means of things, it’s not an entity, it’s not a place, people. It’s a reaction to a situation,” the show host Ahmed Tharwat asked Omar.
“Yes,” she agreed. “What you’re insinuating is what nobody wants to face. Nobody wants to face how the actions of the other people that are involved in the world have contributed to the rise of the radicalization and the rise of terrorist acts.”
She continued: “For us, it’s always ‘I must have not done anything. Why is it happening to me?’ Nobody wants to take accountability of how these are byproducts of the actions of our involvement in other people’s affairs.”
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Al-Qaeda, what a classy bunch. The kind of people you would like to ship your daughter off to. Strong values, great sense of community, and their willingness to accept others from all types of backgrounds. I guess the only knock on them is their occasional video of decapitating someone with a kitchen knife. Besides that they are wonderful.
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Minnesota has a long history of electing dreck. She is the worst yet.
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If you were a refugee form Somalia and they sent you to Minnesota it might make you bitter. Especially in winter
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The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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What’s it like to permanently live in 2004 where liberals are undermining America by secretly supporting the terrorists?
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much (but not all) of the left have contempt for America.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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It's not secretlyHardlyClothed said:What’s it like to permanently live in 2004 where liberals are undermining America by secretly supporting the terrorists?
I don't think Islamists are liberals -
One good thing about her...she does love her family...
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What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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*The Sioux started in MN and they are on wagon burner Mt Rushmore along with the Comanches and Apaches.Swaye said:
What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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2004? Liberals have been hating on America for years and they didn't start or stop doing so in 2004.HardlyClothed said:What’s it like to permanently live in 2004 where liberals are undermining America by secretly supporting the terrorists?
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Can we please import more of these fine people into this country? Lets make sure we don't expect them to assimilate and lets make sure that our institutions of public education push a message to them about what a shitty, racist and murderous country this really is.
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Progressives seem to have a chinstinctive revulsion to the familiar, a certain homophobia of their own. Transexuals are celebrated simply because they are different, for example. This is most evident with progressive relationship to the Middle East and Islam. Their values couldn't be more different. However, Middle Eastern countries are opposed to the United States and thus are adopted as allies of the progressives, closer held by progressives the more virulent opposed to the US those countries are. By extension, Muslims are upheld by progressives because they believe Islamic values most challenge mainstream American values. Other than perhaps Islam's economic teachings, it's hard to see ideological comity between the two value sets.Swaye said:
What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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This is accurate.DerekJohnson said:
much (but not all) of the left have contempt for America.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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They mostly just hate white peopleGrundleStiltzkin said:
Progressives seem to have a chinstinctive revulsion to the familiar, a certain homophobia of their own. Transexuals are celebrated simply because they are different, for example. This is most evident with progressive relationship to the Middle East and Islam. Their values couldn't be more different. However, Middle Eastern countries are opposed to the United States and thus are adopted as allies of the progressives, closer held by progressives the more virulent opposed to the US those countries are. By extension, Muslims are upheld by progressives because they believe Islamic values most challenge mainstream American values. Other than perhaps Islam's economic teachings, it's hard to see ideological comity between the two value sets.Swaye said:
What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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I fucking hate America. Mostly because all fucktards in the Tug.
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Don't dismiss the Muslim and the left both share a hatred of Western Civilization. There's also the reflexive need of leftists to side with the swarthy foreigners or the white westerners. The fact that Muslims hate gays, treat women like property, and are religious fanatics, when the left supposedly hates people who espouse any of these beliefs if they are Christians is something that is an objection that easily overcome if the Muslims shares the typical leftists hatred of America and the Jews.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Progressives seem to have a chinstinctive revulsion to the familiar, a certain homophobia of their own. Transexuals are celebrated simply because they are different, for example. This is most evident with progressive relationship to the Middle East and Islam. Their values couldn't be more different. However, Middle Eastern countries are opposed to the United States and thus are adopted as allies of the progressives, closer held by progressives the more virulent opposed to the US those countries are. By extension, Muslims are upheld by progressives because they believe Islamic values most challenge mainstream American values. Other than perhaps Islam's economic teachings, it's hard to see ideological comity between the two value sets.Swaye said:
What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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Poor thing got stuck in that class a whole semester when she thought he was taking a different kind of terrorism class.
Classic bait and switch.
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One of the dumbest ideas the left has is that America created terrorism and it's just the response.
Like wtf
Muslims have been fighting the infidels since the beginning of islam -
The Western Civilization line is so funny because what is American culture but a sterile suburban strip mall lined by decadent fast food joints. That’s the civilization you want to defend? What’s your favorite Opera Bob?SFGbob said:
Don't dismiss the Muslim and the left both share a hatred of Western Civilization. There's also the reflexive need of leftists to side with the swarthy foreigners or the white westerners. The fact that Muslims hate gays, treat women like property, and are religious fanatics, when the left supposedly hates people who espouse any of these beliefs if they are Christians is something that is an objection that easily overcome if the Muslims shares the typical leftists hatred of America and the Jews.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Progressives seem to have a chinstinctive revulsion to the familiar, a certain homophobia of their own. Transexuals are celebrated simply because they are different, for example. This is most evident with progressive relationship to the Middle East and Islam. Their values couldn't be more different. However, Middle Eastern countries are opposed to the United States and thus are adopted as allies of the progressives, closer held by progressives the more virulent opposed to the US those countries are. By extension, Muslims are upheld by progressives because they believe Islamic values most challenge mainstream American values. Other than perhaps Islam's economic teachings, it's hard to see ideological comity between the two value sets.Swaye said:
What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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There it isHardlyClothed said:
The Western Civilization line is so funny because what is American culture but a sterile suburban strip mall lined by decadent fast food joints. That’s the civilization you want to defend? What’s your favorite Opera Bob?SFGbob said:
Don't dismiss the Muslim and the left both share a hatred of Western Civilization. There's also the reflexive need of leftists to side with the swarthy foreigners or the white westerners. The fact that Muslims hate gays, treat women like property, and are religious fanatics, when the left supposedly hates people who espouse any of these beliefs if they are Christians is something that is an objection that easily overcome if the Muslims shares the typical leftists hatred of America and the Jews.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Progressives seem to have a chinstinctive revulsion to the familiar, a certain homophobia of their own. Transexuals are celebrated simply because they are different, for example. This is most evident with progressive relationship to the Middle East and Islam. Their values couldn't be more different. However, Middle Eastern countries are opposed to the United States and thus are adopted as allies of the progressives, closer held by progressives the more virulent opposed to the US those countries are. By extension, Muslims are upheld by progressives because they believe Islamic values most challenge mainstream American values. Other than perhaps Islam's economic teachings, it's hard to see ideological comity between the two value sets.Swaye said:
What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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The Iraq War sent the number of global jihadists skyrocketing by creating a sectarian holy war in the heart of the Middle East.Pitchfork51 said:One of the dumbest ideas the left has is that America created terrorism and it's just the response.
Like wtf
Muslims have been fighting the infidels since the beginning of islam -
I think I agree with her. I’m not interested enough to watch the full interview but I agree with the quotes provided.
We know for a fact that American actions cause terrorism. We’ve seen it the last 16 years with the wars we started. Accepting that doesn’t mean you have contempt for America, denying it means you have contempt for truth. -
Pitchfork51 said:
They mostly just hate white peopleGrundleStiltzkin said:
Progressives seem to have a chinstinctive revulsion to the familiar, a certain homophobia of their own. Transexuals are celebrated simply because they are different, for example. This is most evident with progressive relationship to the Middle East and Islam. Their values couldn't be more different. However, Middle Eastern countries are opposed to the United States and thus are adopted as allies of the progressives, closer held by progressives the more virulent opposed to the US those countries are. By extension, Muslims are upheld by progressives because they believe Islamic values most challenge mainstream American values. Other than perhaps Islam's economic teachings, it's hard to see ideological comity between the two value sets.Swaye said:
What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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case in poont.HardlyClothed said:
The Western Civilization line is so funny because what is American culture but a sterile suburban strip mall lined by decadent fast food joints. That’s the civilization you want to defend? What’s your favorite Opera Bob?SFGbob said:
Don't dismiss the Muslim and the left both share a hatred of Western Civilization. There's also the reflexive need of leftists to side with the swarthy foreigners or the white westerners. The fact that Muslims hate gays, treat women like property, and are religious fanatics, when the left supposedly hates people who espouse any of these beliefs if they are Christians is something that is an objection that easily overcome if the Muslims shares the typical leftists hatred of America and the Jews.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Progressives seem to have a chinstinctive revulsion to the familiar, a certain homophobia of their own. Transexuals are celebrated simply because they are different, for example. This is most evident with progressive relationship to the Middle East and Islam. Their values couldn't be more different. However, Middle Eastern countries are opposed to the United States and thus are adopted as allies of the progressives, closer held by progressives the more virulent opposed to the US those countries are. By extension, Muslims are upheld by progressives because they believe Islamic values most challenge mainstream American values. Other than perhaps Islam's economic teachings, it's hard to see ideological comity between the two value sets.Swaye said:
What Derek just said. A good chunk of the left hates America right there with her. Obviously the electorate in Minnesota does. They knew what she was, and elected her anyway. Nothing good comes from Minnesota. Except Prince.Doogles said:The way she can barely contain her laughter...it's amazing the left can't see she hates America. She's not even trying to hide it.
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Thoughtful.BennyBeaver said:I fucking hate America. Mostly because all fucktards in the Tug.
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Eloquent. Painful.jecornel said:
Thoughtful.BennyBeaver said:I fucking hate America. Mostly because all fucktards in the Tug.
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Self hatred is a big part of being a liberal these daysBennyBeaver said:I fucking hate America. Mostly because all fucktards in the Tug.
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That's why I posted itallpurpleallgold said:I think I agree with her. I’m not interested enough to watch the full interview but I agree with the quotes provided.
We know for a fact that American actions cause terrorism. We’ve seen it the last 16 years with the wars we started. Accepting that doesn’t mean you have contempt for America, denying it means you have contempt for truth.
A guideline for discussion
She has contempt for America. That's not in question.
We did not invent terrorism. We do act in the best interests of our country same as every other country. Have we fucked up along the way? Of course. Have we pissed people off? Sure.
But there is a reason she is a refugee here. Her own country and religion are no longer capable of having a modern society it seems
No thanks.
We are used as a whipping boy by a failed ideology, more than one by the way, and failed governments who can't provide even basic services to their people. Why would we want to be like that? -
Better give us a rundown chronologically on that.allpurpleallgold said:I think I agree with her. I’m not interested enough to watch the full interview but I agree with the quotes provided.
We know for a fact that American actions cause terrorism. We’ve seen it the last 16 years with the wars we started. Accepting that doesn’t mean you have contempt for America, denying it means you have contempt for truth.
I don't accept 'as fact' that American actions cause or caused terrorism. That's a blanket generality if there ever was one.
Or are you going to play the 'you just don't understand' card right out of the chute?
