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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    RaceBannon said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    HHusky said:

    greenblood said:

    I love how farmers and contractors openly say they have a need for a more exploited workforce.

    I think they'd like any workforce. You can't grow an economy with our demographics while hating on immigration.
    Contractors and farmers aren't looking for just any workforce. They are looking for a workforce that is willing to be paid at (let's be honest) below minimum wage. Tariffs have cut margins from farming, so they can't just hire anybody, the same goes for contractors because of the housing slowdown due to an already inflated housing market.
    Below minimum wage you say? A “market” wage then.

    Tariffs were a really stupid idea in retrospect, weren’t they?
    I don't like tariffs but it was the only way to bring China to the floor to negotiate on the issue of intellectual property theft. Trump's tweets about tariffs lowering the trade deficit was borderline retarded. If the purpose was to hurt their economy, they were naturally going to import less goods, so an increase in the deficit was a given. People who don't know that are dumb. There was not a single alternative brought forth to fight the intellectual property theft China commits annually, outside of being left with our dicks hanging out and allowing the theft to continue. I posted months ago with Hondo that China's theft amounts to around $600 Billion a year. Which means that roughly 5% of China's entire GDP is raised through the theft of foreign governments and companies. 5% doesn't seem like much, but in most cases a 5% drop in annual GDP can send an entire country into chaos.

    Tariffs weren't ideal, but necessary given the true purpose of them.
    So according to trumptards, tariffs are stupid unless they aren’t.
    Ironic

    Learn to read, then maybe you can refer to things as stupid. Until then, stupid is is stupid does Forrest.
    I read your dumbfuck post again. Here’s my reassessment:
    You are stupid. Dumb as a fucking post. A total fucking retard.
    Instead of “reading” and posting on HH, you might want to research and study micro-economics, and then get back to the board regarding your grand insights into tariffs.

    That’s not an argument. Do better.
    Here’s the argument:
    1) tariffs are taxes on US consumers
    2) they decrease the productivity, efficiency, and profitability of the US economy
    3) tariffs damage US economic dominance by dragging our standards to the lowest common denominator
    4) tariffs attack US competitive advantages in the highest margin sectors of the economy to appease domestic laggards (hi @greenblood )
    5) Lowering US economic goals, objectives and strategies to address China economic manipulation is abdication, failure and surrender
    6) foregoing US economic dominance to protect unskilled, ucompetive, uneducated domestic trump constituentlcies is suicide and and an abomination towards those with skills to succeed.

    @greenblood has been promulgating this “strategic” tariff imbecility for a long time now. He’s had long enough time to figure it about by now.
    LOL...rent free bitch.

    If you read you’d see I don’t like tariffs either. But there is no other way to combat China’s intellectual property theft. Do you have another solution to that? Instead of mentioning another solution to that problem, you just continue to state the consequences of said tariffs. News flash, i don’t disagree. There is the long game and the short game. If short term tariffs solves a major problem, the consequences are worth it. You must be in the intellectual property theft is part of the free market crowd. Sad.
    You dont like tariffs? Tough stand!
    US economic interests win when domestic ingenuity and competitiveness are allowed to prevail and win. Winners win. That means you lose.

    You think it’s ok that US taxpayers pay increased taxes for this fiasco? To subsidize failure and inefficiency?
    Tariffs have been in place a long time now with deleterious impacts and no end in sight. Short term or long term.
    The obese fool trump is going to negotiate a long term win? You’ve been shoveling this bullshit and apology for your failure for months now. It was stupid then and is self-evidently ignorant today.
    No solution I see. Just some more bitching and moaning.
    Real US competitors make China look like WSU playing football in the snow.
    Engineering, tech, financial, legal, entertainment.

    We beat them by being better.
    Not by bitching and moaning. Not by penalizing ourselves and helping them in the long term with tariffs.
    They steal our work and co opt American lackeys to do their bidding

    Do you know any?
    No.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,503 Founders Club
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    HHusky said:

    greenblood said:

    I love how farmers and contractors openly say they have a need for a more exploited workforce.

    I think they'd like any workforce. You can't grow an economy with our demographics while hating on immigration.
    Contractors and farmers aren't looking for just any workforce. They are looking for a workforce that is willing to be paid at (let's be honest) below minimum wage. Tariffs have cut margins from farming, so they can't just hire anybody, the same goes for contractors because of the housing slowdown due to an already inflated housing market.
    Below minimum wage you say? A “market” wage then.

    Tariffs were a really stupid idea in retrospect, weren’t they?
    I don't like tariffs but it was the only way to bring China to the floor to negotiate on the issue of intellectual property theft. Trump's tweets about tariffs lowering the trade deficit was borderline retarded. If the purpose was to hurt their economy, they were naturally going to import less goods, so an increase in the deficit was a given. People who don't know that are dumb. There was not a single alternative brought forth to fight the intellectual property theft China commits annually, outside of being left with our dicks hanging out and allowing the theft to continue. I posted months ago with Hondo that China's theft amounts to around $600 Billion a year. Which means that roughly 5% of China's entire GDP is raised through the theft of foreign governments and companies. 5% doesn't seem like much, but in most cases a 5% drop in annual GDP can send an entire country into chaos.

    Tariffs weren't ideal, but necessary given the true purpose of them.
    So according to trumptards, tariffs are stupid unless they aren’t.
    Ironic

    Learn to read, then maybe you can refer to things as stupid. Until then, stupid is is stupid does Forrest.
    I read your dumbfuck post again. Here’s my reassessment:
    You are stupid. Dumb as a fucking post. A total fucking retard.
    Instead of “reading” and posting on HH, you might want to research and study micro-economics, and then get back to the board regarding your grand insights into tariffs.

    That’s not an argument. Do better.
    Here’s the argument:
    1) tariffs are taxes on US consumers
    2) they decrease the productivity, efficiency, and profitability of the US economy
    3) tariffs damage US economic dominance by dragging our standards to the lowest common denominator
    4) tariffs attack US competitive advantages in the highest margin sectors of the economy to appease domestic laggards (hi @greenblood )
    5) Lowering US economic goals, objectives and strategies to address China economic manipulation is abdication, failure and surrender
    6) foregoing US economic dominance to protect unskilled, ucompetive, uneducated domestic trump constituentlcies is suicide and and an abomination towards those with skills to succeed.

    @greenblood has been promulgating this “strategic” tariff imbecility for a long time now. He’s had long enough time to figure it about by now.
    LOL...rent free bitch.

    If you read you’d see I don’t like tariffs either. But there is no other way to combat China’s intellectual property theft. Do you have another solution to that? Instead of mentioning another solution to that problem, you just continue to state the consequences of said tariffs. News flash, i don’t disagree. There is the long game and the short game. If short term tariffs solves a major problem, the consequences are worth it. You must be in the intellectual property theft is part of the free market crowd. Sad.
    You dont like tariffs? Tough stand!
    US economic interests win when domestic ingenuity and competitiveness are allowed to prevail and win. Winners win. That means you lose.

    You think it’s ok that US taxpayers pay increased taxes for this fiasco? To subsidize failure and inefficiency?
    Tariffs have been in place a long time now with deleterious impacts and no end in sight. Short term or long term.
    The obese fool trump is going to negotiate a long term win? You’ve been shoveling this bullshit and apology for your failure for months now. It was stupid then and is self-evidently ignorant today.
    No solution I see. Just some more bitching and moaning.
    Real US competitors make China look like WSU playing football in the snow.
    Engineering, tech, financial, legal, entertainment.

    We beat them by being better.
    Not by bitching and moaning. Not by penalizing ourselves and helping them in the long term with tariffs.
    They steal our work and co opt American lackeys to do their bidding

    Do you know any?
    No.
    I thought maybe you did
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    HHusky said:

    greenblood said:

    I love how farmers and contractors openly say they have a need for a more exploited workforce.

    I think they'd like any workforce. You can't grow an economy with our demographics while hating on immigration.
    Contractors and farmers aren't looking for just any workforce. They are looking for a workforce that is willing to be paid at (let's be honest) below minimum wage. Tariffs have cut margins from farming, so they can't just hire anybody, the same goes for contractors because of the housing slowdown due to an already inflated housing market.
    Below minimum wage you say? A “market” wage then.

    Tariffs were a really stupid idea in retrospect, weren’t they?
    I don't like tariffs but it was the only way to bring China to the floor to negotiate on the issue of intellectual property theft. Trump's tweets about tariffs lowering the trade deficit was borderline retarded. If the purpose was to hurt their economy, they were naturally going to import less goods, so an increase in the deficit was a given. People who don't know that are dumb. There was not a single alternative brought forth to fight the intellectual property theft China commits annually, outside of being left with our dicks hanging out and allowing the theft to continue. I posted months ago with Hondo that China's theft amounts to around $600 Billion a year. Which means that roughly 5% of China's entire GDP is raised through the theft of foreign governments and companies. 5% doesn't seem like much, but in most cases a 5% drop in annual GDP can send an entire country into chaos.

    Tariffs weren't ideal, but necessary given the true purpose of them.
    So according to trumptards, tariffs are stupid unless they aren’t.
    Ironic

    Learn to read, then maybe you can refer to things as stupid. Until then, stupid is is stupid does Forrest.
    I read your dumbfuck post again. Here’s my reassessment:
    You are stupid. Dumb as a fucking post. A total fucking retard.
    Instead of “reading” and posting on HH, you might want to research and study micro-economics, and then get back to the board regarding your grand insights into tariffs.

    That’s not an argument. Do better.
    Here’s the argument:
    1) tariffs are taxes on US consumers
    2) they decrease the productivity, efficiency, and profitability of the US economy
    3) tariffs damage US economic dominance by dragging our standards to the lowest common denominator
    4) tariffs attack US competitive advantages in the highest margin sectors of the economy to appease domestic laggards (hi @greenblood )
    5) Lowering US economic goals, objectives and strategies to address China economic manipulation is abdication, failure and surrender
    6) foregoing US economic dominance to protect unskilled, ucompetive, uneducated domestic trump constituentlcies is suicide and and an abomination towards those with skills to succeed.

    @greenblood has been promulgating this “strategic” tariff imbecility for a long time now. He’s had long enough time to figure it about by now.
    LOL...rent free bitch.

    If you read you’d see I don’t like tariffs either. But there is no other way to combat China’s intellectual property theft. Do you have another solution to that? Instead of mentioning another solution to that problem, you just continue to state the consequences of said tariffs. News flash, i don’t disagree. There is the long game and the short game. If short term tariffs solves a major problem, the consequences are worth it. You must be in the intellectual property theft is part of the free market crowd. Sad.
    You dont like tariffs? Tough stand!
    US economic interests win when domestic ingenuity and competitiveness are allowed to prevail and win. Winners win. That means you lose.

    You think it’s ok that US taxpayers pay increased taxes for this fiasco? To subsidize failure and inefficiency?
    Tariffs have been in place a long time now with deleterious impacts and no end in sight. Short term or long term.
    The obese fool trump is going to negotiate a long term win? You’ve been shoveling this bullshit and apology for your failure for months now. It was stupid then and is self-evidently ignorant today.
    No solution I see. Just some more bitching and moaning.
    Real US competitors make China look like WSU playing football in the snow.
    Engineering, tech, financial, legal, entertainment.

    We beat them by being better.
    Not by bitching and moaning. Not by penalizing ourselves and helping them in the long term with tariffs.
    We are winning, but we could be running the score up. That’s the difference.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    HHusky said:

    greenblood said:

    I love how farmers and contractors openly say they have a need for a more exploited workforce.

    I think they'd like any workforce. You can't grow an economy with our demographics while hating on immigration.
    Contractors and farmers aren't looking for just any workforce. They are looking for a workforce that is willing to be paid at (let's be honest) below minimum wage. Tariffs have cut margins from farming, so they can't just hire anybody, the same goes for contractors because of the housing slowdown due to an already inflated housing market.
    Below minimum wage you say? A “market” wage then.

    Tariffs were a really stupid idea in retrospect, weren’t they?
    I don't like tariffs but it was the only way to bring China to the floor to negotiate on the issue of intellectual property theft. Trump's tweets about tariffs lowering the trade deficit was borderline retarded. If the purpose was to hurt their economy, they were naturally going to import less goods, so an increase in the deficit was a given. People who don't know that are dumb. There was not a single alternative brought forth to fight the intellectual property theft China commits annually, outside of being left with our dicks hanging out and allowing the theft to continue. I posted months ago with Hondo that China's theft amounts to around $600 Billion a year. Which means that roughly 5% of China's entire GDP is raised through the theft of foreign governments and companies. 5% doesn't seem like much, but in most cases a 5% drop in annual GDP can send an entire country into chaos.

    Tariffs weren't ideal, but necessary given the true purpose of them.
    So according to trumptards, tariffs are stupid unless they aren’t.
    Ironic

    Learn to read, then maybe you can refer to things as stupid. Until then, stupid is is stupid does Forrest.
    I read your dumbfuck post again. Here’s my reassessment:
    You are stupid. Dumb as a fucking post. A total fucking retard.
    Instead of “reading” and posting on HH, you might want to research and study micro-economics, and then get back to the board regarding your grand insights into tariffs.

    That’s not an argument. Do better.
    Here’s the argument:
    1) tariffs are taxes on US consumers
    2) they decrease the productivity, efficiency, and profitability of the US economy
    3) tariffs damage US economic dominance by dragging our standards to the lowest common denominator
    4) tariffs attack US competitive advantages in the highest margin sectors of the economy to appease domestic laggards (hi @greenblood )
    5) Lowering US economic goals, objectives and strategies to address China economic manipulation is abdication, failure and surrender
    6) foregoing US economic dominance to protect unskilled, ucompetive, uneducated domestic trump constituentlcies is suicide and and an abomination towards those with skills to succeed.

    @greenblood has been promulgating this “strategic” tariff imbecility for a long time now. He’s had long enough time to figure it about by now.
    LOL...rent free bitch.

    If you read you’d see I don’t like tariffs either. But there is no other way to combat China’s intellectual property theft. Do you have another solution to that? Instead of mentioning another solution to that problem, you just continue to state the consequences of said tariffs. News flash, i don’t disagree. There is the long game and the short game. If short term tariffs solves a major problem, the consequences are worth it. You must be in the intellectual property theft is part of the free market crowd. Sad.
    You dont like tariffs? Tough stand!
    US economic interests win when domestic ingenuity and competitiveness are allowed to prevail and win. Winners win. That means you lose.

    You think it’s ok that US taxpayers pay increased taxes for this fiasco? To subsidize failure and inefficiency?
    Tariffs have been in place a long time now with deleterious impacts and no end in sight. Short term or long term.
    The obese fool trump is going to negotiate a long term win? You’ve been shoveling this bullshit and apology for your failure for months now. It was stupid then and is self-evidently ignorant today.
    You've been embarrassingly stupid since your first day on HH.

    But you've now outdone yourself and plunged to imbecile status. Nice work.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    greenblood said:

    HHusky said:

    greenblood said:

    I love how farmers and contractors openly say they have a need for a more exploited workforce.

    I think they'd like any workforce. You can't grow an economy with our demographics while hating on immigration.
    Contractors and farmers aren't looking for just any workforce. They are looking for a workforce that is willing to be paid at (let's be honest) below minimum wage. Tariffs have cut margins from farming, so they can't just hire anybody, the same goes for contractors because of the housing slowdown due to an already inflated housing market.
    Below minimum wage you say? A “market” wage then.

    Tariffs were a really stupid idea in retrospect, weren’t they?
    I don't like tariffs but it was the only way to bring China to the floor to negotiate on the issue of intellectual property theft. Trump's tweets about tariffs lowering the trade deficit was borderline retarded. If the purpose was to hurt their economy, they were naturally going to import less goods, so an increase in the deficit was a given. People who don't know that are dumb. There was not a single alternative brought forth to fight the intellectual property theft China commits annually, outside of being left with our dicks hanging out and allowing the theft to continue. I posted months ago with Hondo that China's theft amounts to around $600 Billion a year. Which means that roughly 5% of China's entire GDP is raised through the theft of foreign governments and companies. 5% doesn't seem like much, but in most cases a 5% drop in annual GDP can send an entire country into chaos.

    Tariffs weren't ideal, but necessary given the true purpose of them.
    So according to trumptards, tariffs are stupid unless they aren’t.
    Ironic

    Learn to read, then maybe you can refer to things as stupid. Until then, stupid is is stupid does Forrest.
    I read your dumbfuck post again. Here’s my reassessment:
    You are stupid. Dumb as a fucking post. A total fucking retard.
    Instead of “reading” and posting on HH, you might want to research and study micro-economics, and then get back to the board regarding your grand insights into tariffs.

    That’s not an argument. Do better.
    Here’s the argument:
    1) tariffs are taxes on US consumers
    2) they decrease the productivity, efficiency, and profitability of the US economy
    3) tariffs damage US economic dominance by dragging our standards to the lowest common denominator
    4) tariffs attack US competitive advantages in the highest margin sectors of the economy to appease domestic laggards (hi @greenblood )
    5) Lowering US economic goals, objectives and strategies to address China economic manipulation is abdication, failure and surrender
    6) foregoing US economic dominance to protect unskilled, ucompetive, uneducated domestic trump constituentlcies is suicide and and an abomination towards those with skills to succeed.

    @greenblood has been promulgating this “strategic” tariff imbecility for a long time now. He’s had long enough time to figure it about by now.
    LOL...rent free bitch.

    If you read you’d see I don’t like tariffs either. But there is no other way to combat China’s intellectual property theft. Do you have another solution to that? Instead of mentioning another solution to that problem, you just continue to state the consequences of said tariffs. News flash, i don’t disagree. There is the long game and the short game. If short term tariffs solves a major problem, the consequences are worth it. You must be in the intellectual property theft is part of the free market crowd. Sad.
    You dont like tariffs? Tough stand!
    US economic interests win when domestic ingenuity and competitiveness are allowed to prevail and win. Winners win. That means you lose.

    You think it’s ok that US taxpayers pay increased taxes for this fiasco? To subsidize failure and inefficiency?
    Tariffs have been in place a long time now with deleterious impacts and no end in sight. Short term or long term.
    The obese fool trump is going to negotiate a long term win? You’ve been shoveling this bullshit and apology for your failure for months now. It was stupid then and is self-evidently ignorant today.
    No solution I see. Just some more bitching and moaning.
    Real US competitors make China look like WSU playing football in the snow.
    Engineering, tech, financial, legal, entertainment.

    We beat them by being better.
    Not by bitching and moaning. Not by penalizing ourselves and helping them in the long term with tariffs.
    Where is your string and who the fuck keeps pulling it? They should've dropped your ass at the local Goodwill with the rest of the shitty art & toys from the eighties.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    I needed a brake booster, master cylinder and proportioning valve setup for an old Jeep CJ I have. So, there's this place called Pirate Jacks that builds cool setups in house in NC. Whole system was 475 bucks late last year when I first started looking at them. Went to buy one yesterday and they are 572. So I call the guy up and ask him why his prices jumped 100 bucks in less than 6 months. Tariffs was the response. I don;t know if tariffs are having an impact in China, but they are having an impact here. Cool story, I know.
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  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    Swaye said:

    I needed a brake booster, master cylinder and proportioning valve setup for an old Jeep CJ I have. So, there's this place called Pirate Jacks that builds cool setups in house in NC. Whole system was 475 bucks late last year when I first started looking at them. Went to buy one yesterday and they are 572. So I call the guy up and ask him why his prices jumped 100 bucks in less than 6 months. Tariffs was the response. I don;t know if tariffs are having an impact in China, but they are having an impact here. Cool story, I know.

    And of course producers always want to raise prices. A lot have been trying to do it for the last couple of years and have been unable to do so. If you raise prices, you're never going to say it's because, well, I want to make more money. You're going to blame it on the tariffs.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/08/20/640141115/how-much-are-tariffs-pushing-up-prices
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited April 2019
    Swaye said:

    I needed a brake booster, master cylinder and proportioning valve setup for an old Jeep CJ I have. So, there's this place called Pirate Jacks that builds cool setups in house in NC. Whole system was 475 bucks late last year when I first started looking at them. Went to buy one yesterday and they are 572. So I call the guy up and ask him why his prices jumped 100 bucks in less than 6 months. Tariffs was the response. I don;t know if tariffs are having an impact in China, but they are having an impact here. Cool story, I know.

    It’s effecting China more.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,589 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2019
    HHusky said:

    PurpleJ said:

    HHusky said:

    PurpleJ said:

    HHusky said:

    greenblood said:

    I love how farmers and contractors openly say they have a need for a more exploited workforce.

    I think they'd like any workforce. You can't grow an economy with our demographics while hating on immigration.
    What a racist piece of shit you are.
    Obviously.
    "Poor whites can't pick crops. That's colored folk work."

    -HHusky, CSA
    We clearly need to make a lot more poor whites if you want the economy to grow in keeping with your racial preferences.
    We just need to reduce the "assistance". If you can be on all the welfare programs and make well above minimum wage and have a place to live why go to work?

    “I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

    ― Benjamin Franklin

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/states-welfare-recipients-paid-more-minimum-wage.html/
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