AOC update from Quinnipiac University poll
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I didn't know if Bernie was still your guy
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Yeah, it’ll always be Bernie. Besides all of the political reasons, I want to run it vs Trump. I want to find out who wins. I’ll take the “I told you so’s” from the people that say he can’t win if he doesn’t but I’m going to shove it down moderate democrats throats forever if he does win.
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Just admit you’re wrong about Bernie and I’ll be glad to have a broader discussion. Until then, burn books.allpurpleallgold said:Yeah, it’ll always be Bernie. Besides all of the political reasons, I want to run it vs Trump. I want to find out who wins. I’ll take the “I told you so’s” from the people that say he can’t win if he doesn’t but I’m going to shove it down moderate democrats throats forever if he does win.
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Book burning comes after gun confiscation. Which Bernie wants.MikeDamone said:
Just admit you’re wrong about Bernie and I’ll be glad to have a broader discussion. Until then, burn books.allpurpleallgold said:Yeah, it’ll always be Bernie. Besides all of the political reasons, I want to run it vs Trump. I want to find out who wins. I’ll take the “I told you so’s” from the people that say he can’t win if he doesn’t but I’m going to shove it down moderate democrats throats forever if he does win.
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Fidel was a hand talker.TurdBuffer said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPZkeAXPngM
Shame on her for making fun of disabled reporters with all those hand gestures. -
The luster is starting to dull with her. Sure, she will continue to dominate the below 28 crowd who hasn’t made enough money to break the earned income credit yet. However for those that have broken the glass... or should I say drywall ceiling of their parents basement to get their own place, she’s tanking fast.allpurpleallgold said:Favorable/unfavorable among dems is 47 to 7. What a disaster.
Her numbers in that poll are very good, if you can’t see that it’s because you don’t know how to read polls. -
We’re beating Howard Schultz!!!allpurpleallgold said:
I literally just said her numbers with moderates aren’t bad. I think there is a specific type of “centrist” that doesn’t like her and makes a lot of noise but I’m not convinced that voting block is relevant. Howard Schultz thought he’d be president running against her as a centrist and hows that going?DerekJohnson said:
She's going to have to veer more centrist in the debates or that monumental exposure will destroy her ratingsallpurpleallgold said:
We can have different interpretations of these numbers, it’s really messy when the proportion of people that don’t know who she is so large. But for me, the fact that you’re willing to concede that they aren’t horrible just reaffirms my position that they’re actually very good.RaceBannon said:According to hondo Democrats haven't heard of her
Depends on how the 44% breaks
Very good is a stretch
They aren't horrible
It’s pretty clear how the 44% is going to break. The people least likely to have heard her are women, young people, blacks and Hispanics. Those are the people most likely to give her a favorable rating.
I also think the independent numbers are misleading. There was a poll a few weeks ago with similar numbers but it had a political leaning numbers for liberal, moderate and conservative and she did better with moderate there. It wasn’t amazing, iirc it was 30% favorable and 36% unfavorable, but an ok number. I think that’s the middle ground voter you want to find. My hunch is libertarians are fucking up the polling numbers for “independents”. -
I'll make it simple: AOC is the result of breeding Rosie Perez with Rosanne Rosannadanna. And nobody wants to watch and listen to either for more than a few minutes. And if you look at her college photos, it's obvious her looks are fading too fast. She'll be over before her nipples reach her belly button.creepycoug said:
Agree with this. The country is full of well-informed moderate liberal Democrats who know she is the embodiment of Clinton's focus on transgender bathrooms. It's a loser. She's passionate, yes. She's forward-thinking, yes. She's progressive, yes. Hell, is she possibly ahead of her time? Yes. All of that is good for academic discussion. But her policies are too radical and too unrealistic and she's going to scare people away. Mark that down. Just like Hillary did pandering to the left edge of her constituency group .... trying to be too many things to too many people.Pitchfork51 said:AOC is a disaster for the dems. It's hilarious.
She's become the shining star to the super progressives and everyone else is embarrassed of her.
The thing about Hillary is that people have it all wrong about her. There is nothing unqualified about Hillary. She just made a error in campaign calculation. She should not have played to the AOC wing of the party. There really aren't enough of them IMO, and I'm convinced they don't vote as big as they talk.
The harder call for Hillary was gay marriage. That alienates a lot of people in the middle and on the right; but as a liberal turning your back on the gay community on their most important issue is quite risky. There are a lot of gay people, and they do fucking vote. -
Guess who else was a hand talker....PurpleThrobber said:
Fidel was a hand talker.TurdBuffer said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPZkeAXPngM
Shame on her for making fun of disabled reporters with all those hand gestures.
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The Amazon fiasco was the turning point for her. I don’t see how she can reverse that now.
