Why do the people who claim to care about the poor in America...
Also, what's the biggest predictor if someone will grow up living in poverty in America today? Is it skin color?
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That's what your think tank had all night to come up with?
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Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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Well with with billions of racists running aroundPitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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Question was obviously too tough for you Kunt.2001400ex said:That's what your think tank had all night to come up with?
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I'm trying to figure out why the lynching numbers are down!RaceBannon said:
Well with with billions of racists running aroundPitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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I expect more from you. Or was this a rhetorical question? It's about stacking votes, man.SFGbob said:also want to bring millions of additional poor, and illiterate people with no job skills to America?
Also, what's the biggest predictor if someone will grow up living in poverty in America today? Is it skin color? -
SFGbob said:
also want to bring millions of additional poor, and illiterate people with no job skills to America?
Also, what's the biggest predictor if someone will grow up living in poverty in America today? Is it skin color?
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And all the non white people vote for the left. What would you attribute that to?Pitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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First of all, that's not accurate. Second of all, most Hispanic immigrants with the exception of Cubans like a government that will give them lots of "free" shit. They vote for the party that they see as their best option to secure this "free" shit. If you're black and you want a handout you're going to vote for Rats for the very same reasons.allpurpleallgold said:
And all the non white people vote for the left. What would you attribute that to?Pitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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Forget the poor.SFGbob said:also want to bring millions of additional poor, and illiterate people with no job skills to America?
Also, what's the biggest predictor if someone will grow up living in poverty in America today? Is it skin color?
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Come on.Pitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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SFGbob said:
First of all, that's not accurate. Second of all, most Hispanic immigrants with the exception of Cubans like a government that will give them lots of "free" shit. They vote for the party that they see as their best option to secure this "free" shit. If you're black and you want a handout you're going to vote for Rats for the very same reasons.allpurpleallgold said:
And all the non white people vote for the left. What would you attribute that to?Pitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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Hey asked why non-white people vote for the Rats. So now you can't even talk about blacks without it being a dog-whistle? If you're a black person, or a white person or and Asian person for that matter who wants the government to give them "free" shit, which party are you going to vote for?
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Funny how Trump's base is the pour whites.SFGbob said:Hey asked why non-white people vote for the Rats. So now you can't even talk about blacks without it being a dog-whistle? If you're a black person, or a white person or and Asian person for that matter who wants the government to give them "free" shit, which party are you going to vote for?
More racism from noted racist lil lyin Bob. -
Two lies in one post2001400ex said:
Funny how Trump's base is the pour whites.SFGbob said:Hey asked why non-white people vote for the Rats. So now you can't even talk about blacks without it being a dog-whistle? If you're a black person, or a white person or and Asian person for that matter who wants the government to give them "free" shit, which party are you going to vote for?
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I think if we have true welfare reform, of the type you spelled out the other day, then I'd be willing regulate the influx of cheap uneducated labor such that we are only importing what we need/benefit from. The truth is, these people do a lot of jobs that Americans don't want to do, and many of those jobs are for goods and services that have limited elasticity of demand (landscaping, agriculture, etc.). Long before American landscapers and fruit pickers will be getting a 401-K match, demand for those products and services will disappear. Nobody is paying $8 for an apple; nobody is paying a guy $400 to cut is suburban lawn.SFGbob said:also want to bring millions of additional poor, and illiterate people with no job skills to America?
Also, what's the biggest predictor if someone will grow up living in poverty in America today? Is it skin color?
If you get the hoards of unemployed and able bodied citizens off their asses and doing these jobs for roughly what the immigrants will do them, then I'm all in.
Of course, I've always been in favor of regulating the boarders for safety reasons and so that we know who is coming in ... any clear-thinking person wants that. What I've not been in favor of is labor protectionist policies. I think they're bad for us in the long-run, and in the short-run they're a problem unless there are people getting up and filling those slots.
Given where we are technologically as a species, there are still jobs that are hard and don't require great skill or education that need to be done inexpensively or not at all.
I honestly didn't know the answer to your question, so I looked it up. I had assumed that it would be the educational status of your parents, where you grew up and that skin color would be in there somewhere. I think this study would support that idea generally. I have no idea who the Urban Institute is, and if they're partisan or not.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/57718/why-do-the-people-who-claim-to-care-about-the-poor-in-america#latest
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Why do those dirty Italian Catholic immigrants vote for the Democrats? Or those stupid Irish immigrants? Or the Pollacks?
All those poor immigrants looking for free stuff. They're gonna VOTE (omg, save us). The end is nigh.
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Of course it wasn't accurate but it is further evidence of the left's desperate need to whip up racial unrest and to keep as many people poor and dumb as they can including the poor whites so they need government. White women too, even though they got caught in the crossfire and were blamed for Trump winningSFGbob said:
First of all, that's not accurate. Second of all, most Hispanic immigrants with the exception of Cubans like a government that will give them lots of "free" shit. They vote for the party that they see as their best option to secure this "free" shit. If you're black and you want a handout you're going to vote for Rats for the very same reasons.allpurpleallgold said:
And all the non white people vote for the left. What would you attribute that to?Pitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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Because they shared the same racism against BlacksBennyBeaver said:Why do those dirty Italian Catholic immigrants vote for the Democrats? Or those stupid Irish immigrants? Or the Pollacks?
All those poor immigrants looking for free stuff. They're gonna VOTE (omg, save us). The end is nigh.
Fuck off.
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Are you dumb on purpose or you just like getting responded to?RaceBannon said:
Two lies in one post2001400ex said:
Funny how Trump's base is the pour whites.SFGbob said:Hey asked why non-white people vote for the Rats. So now you can't even talk about blacks without it being a dog-whistle? If you're a black person, or a white person or and Asian person for that matter who wants the government to give them "free" shit, which party are you going to vote for?
More racism from noted racist lil lyin Bob.
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I only have tim to read HH.RaceBannon said:
Because they shared the same racism against BlacksBennyBeaver said:Why do those dirty Italian Catholic immigrants vote for the Democrats? Or those stupid Irish immigrants? Or the Pollacks?
All those poor immigrants looking for free stuff. They're gonna VOTE (omg, save us). The end is nigh.
Fuck off.
Read a history book sometime -
What?2001400ex said:
Are you dumb on purpose or you just like getting responded to?RaceBannon said:
Two lies in one post2001400ex said:
Funny how Trump's base is the pour whites.SFGbob said:Hey asked why non-white people vote for the Rats. So now you can't even talk about blacks without it being a dog-whistle? If you're a black person, or a white person or and Asian person for that matter who wants the government to give them "free" shit, which party are you going to vote for?
More racism from noted racist lil lyin Bob.
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Right, so people of color want are lazy and want free shit but white people are better than that. Got it.SFGbob said:
First of all, that's not accurate. Second of all, most Hispanic immigrants with the exception of Cubans like a government that will give them lots of "free" shit. They vote for the party that they see as their best option to secure this "free" shit. If you're black and you want a handout you're going to vote for Rats for the very same reasons.allpurpleallgold said:
And all the non white people vote for the left. What would you attribute that to?Pitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
Racist pos. -
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Bob doesn't think his statement is racist cause he didn't use any derogatory terms.allpurpleallgold said:
Right, so people of color want are lazy and want free shit but white people are better than that. Got it.SFGbob said:
First of all, that's not accurate. Second of all, most Hispanic immigrants with the exception of Cubans like a government that will give them lots of "free" shit. They vote for the party that they see as their best option to secure this "free" shit. If you're black and you want a handout you're going to vote for Rats for the very same reasons.allpurpleallgold said:
And all the non white people vote for the left. What would you attribute that to?Pitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
Racist pos. -
Try English. There are plenty of free shitters of all races. Being a parasite who wants a handout knows no color.allpurpleallgold said:
Right, so people of color want are lazy and want free shit but white people are better than that. Got it.SFGbob said:
First of all, that's not accurate. Second of all, most Hispanic immigrants with the exception of Cubans like a government that will give them lots of "free" shit. They vote for the party that they see as their best option to secure this "free" shit. If you're black and you want a handout you're going to vote for Rats for the very same reasons.allpurpleallgold said:
And all the non white people vote for the left. What would you attribute that to?Pitchfork51 said:Liberals believe anyone who isn't white is stupid and unable to do anything themselves and therefore must come here to be taken care of by the generous and compassionate Democrats, who know what's in everyone else's interest far better than they ever could.
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Amazing. Kids who are born to parents who are married do better than kids who are born out of wedlock. Now what were those numbers on out of wedlock births broken down by race?creepycoug said:I fucked up the link:
https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/90321/escaping-poverty.pdf
I think you'll find they track pretty neatly to the numbers of kids who grow up in poverty when broken down by race. -
Go check out the smaller population states that do not have a large illegal immigrant population. Like the Dakotas, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana etc. You'll find that all the jobs are filled and they ain't illegals.creepycoug said:
I think if we have true welfare reform, of the type you spelled out the other day, then I'd be willing regulate the influx of cheap uneducated labor such that we are only importing what we need/benefit from. The truth is, these people do a lot of jobs that Americans don't want to do, and many of those jobs are for goods and services that have limited elasticity of demand (landscaping, agriculture, etc.). Long before American landscapers and fruit pickers will be getting a 401-K match, demand for those products and services will disappear. Nobody is paying $8 for an apple; nobody is paying a guy $400 to cut is suburban lawn.SFGbob said:also want to bring millions of additional poor, and illiterate people with no job skills to America?
Also, what's the biggest predictor if someone will grow up living in poverty in America today? Is it skin color?
If you get the hoards of unemployed and able bodied citizens off their asses and doing these jobs for roughly what the immigrants will do them, then I'm all in.
Of course, I've always been in favor of regulating the boarders for safety reasons and so that we know who is coming in ... any clear-thinking person wants that. What I've not been in favor of is labor protectionist policies. I think they're bad for us in the long-run, and in the short-run they're a problem unless there are people getting up and filling those slots.
Given where we are technologically as a species, there are still jobs that are hard and don't require great skill or education that need to be done inexpensively or not at all.
I honestly didn't know the answer to your question, so I looked it up. I had assumed that it would be the educational status of your parents, where you grew up and that skin color would be in there somewhere. I think this study would support that idea generally. I have no idea who the Urban Institute is, and if they're partisan or not.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/57718/why-do-the-people-who-claim-to-care-about-the-poor-in-america#latest
Hard to get good Mexican food in those places. -
Your study buries the lede but they eventually get around to it. The greatest predictor if someone will end up growing up in poverty is whether or not their parents were married at the time of their birth. You factor in that and skin color becomes almost irrelevant to growing up in poverty. The number of kids growing up in poverty who are part of an intact two parent family is minuscule.creepycoug said:
I think if we have true welfare reform, of the type you spelled out the other day, then I'd be willing regulate the influx of cheap uneducated labor such that we are only importing what we need/benefit from. The truth is, these people do a lot of jobs that Americans don't want to do, and many of those jobs are for goods and services that have limited elasticity of demand (landscaping, agriculture, etc.). Long before American landscapers and fruit pickers will be getting a 401-K match, demand for those products and services will disappear. Nobody is paying $8 for an apple; nobody is paying a guy $400 to cut is suburban lawn.SFGbob said:also want to bring millions of additional poor, and illiterate people with no job skills to America?
Also, what's the biggest predictor if someone will grow up living in poverty in America today? Is it skin color?
If you get the hoards of unemployed and able bodied citizens off their asses and doing these jobs for roughly what the immigrants will do them, then I'm all in.
Of course, I've always been in favor of regulating the boarders for safety reasons and so that we know who is coming in ... any clear-thinking person wants that. What I've not been in favor of is labor protectionist policies. I think they're bad for us in the long-run, and in the short-run they're a problem unless there are people getting up and filling those slots.
Given where we are technologically as a species, there are still jobs that are hard and don't require great skill or education that need to be done inexpensively or not at all.
I honestly didn't know the answer to your question, so I looked it up. I had assumed that it would be the educational status of your parents, where you grew up and that skin color would be in there somewhere. I think this study would support that idea generally. I have no idea who the Urban Institute is, and if they're partisan or not.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/57718/why-do-the-people-who-claim-to-care-about-the-poor-in-america#latest -
Fewer jobs in those states overall dog. My company just left Montana a few years back, and the locals, of which I know many, will tell you it was the death blow. Very, very hard to make a living in Montana. Idaho has Boise and some tech and related industry, but not much else. The Dakotas have large mineral business and the people who go there to work are paid very well. I know more than a few guys who've gone to the Dakotas and lived in one of those company towns, where they build nice hotels and restaurants on the fucking spot to support what is a very healthy micro economy. But my sense of those places is that if you're not in one of those businesses or working for one, your SOL.Sledog said:
Go check out the smaller population states that do not have a large illegal immigrant population. Like the Dakotas, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana etc. You'll find that all the jobs are filled and they ain't illegals.creepycoug said:
I think if we have true welfare reform, of the type you spelled out the other day, then I'd be willing regulate the influx of cheap uneducated labor such that we are only importing what we need/benefit from. The truth is, these people do a lot of jobs that Americans don't want to do, and many of those jobs are for goods and services that have limited elasticity of demand (landscaping, agriculture, etc.). Long before American landscapers and fruit pickers will be getting a 401-K match, demand for those products and services will disappear. Nobody is paying $8 for an apple; nobody is paying a guy $400 to cut is suburban lawn.SFGbob said:also want to bring millions of additional poor, and illiterate people with no job skills to America?
Also, what's the biggest predictor if someone will grow up living in poverty in America today? Is it skin color?
If you get the hoards of unemployed and able bodied citizens off their asses and doing these jobs for roughly what the immigrants will do them, then I'm all in.
Of course, I've always been in favor of regulating the boarders for safety reasons and so that we know who is coming in ... any clear-thinking person wants that. What I've not been in favor of is labor protectionist policies. I think they're bad for us in the long-run, and in the short-run they're a problem unless there are people getting up and filling those slots.
Given where we are technologically as a species, there are still jobs that are hard and don't require great skill or education that need to be done inexpensively or not at all.
I honestly didn't know the answer to your question, so I looked it up. I had assumed that it would be the educational status of your parents, where you grew up and that skin color would be in there somewhere. I think this study would support that idea generally. I have no idea who the Urban Institute is, and if they're partisan or not.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/57718/why-do-the-people-who-claim-to-care-about-the-poor-in-america#latest
Hard to get good Mexican food in those places.
I think you're skirting the point, which is that a lot of people born and brought up here simply do not want to do many of those jobs ... at all ... much less for the $$ that they immigrant will do it for.
Look, you can not like them all you want, but that is the very significant other side of the coin. It's fun to point to the bad shit some of them do when the come here; but there is (I would argue) much more significant other behavior that they contribute. You may think it's better if the apple orchard owner, or the timber company who needs planters, or the developer who needs framers, etc. etc. is stuck with more expensive American labor. But a free market guy doesn't see it that way. And as I said, many (not all) of those services and goods have little to no price elasticity, such that an uptick in the cost (passed on to the consumer) will essentially kill it. I don't like Apple Juice that much, and I'm happy to mow my own lawn (I do anyway).
