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I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it. -
JFC. You look stupid.2001400ex said:
I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it. -
Sic burn broMikeDamone said:
JFC. You look stupid.2001400ex said:
I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it. -
The worst thing about this response is you just know the dumbfuck thinks he crafted some killer rebuttal.2001400ex said:
I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it. -
I guess. Didn’t really mean it as a burn though. Just an observation2001400ex said:
Sic burn broMikeDamone said:
JFC. You look stupid.2001400ex said:
I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it. -
Rebuttal to what? I always chuckle when you comment on other people's intelligence. When you can't even read.SFGbob said:
The worst thing about this response is you just know the dumbfuck thinks he crafted some killer rebuttal.2001400ex said:
I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it. -
That's a good point. Thanks for clarifying.MikeDamone said:
I guess. Didn’t really mean it as a burn though. Just an observation2001400ex said:
Sic burn broMikeDamone said:
JFC. You look stupid.2001400ex said:
I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it. -
Good luck with that it was the courts that decided all the loonies weren't that loony. If they weren't going to kill anyone let them out!SFGbob said:
If we really want to be honest about all of this treatment programs and counseling are pretty much next to worthless is addressing this problem.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The mentally ill need to be taken off the streets by force if necessary. The drug addicts and the drunks need to be incarcerated if they violate any laws and we can set up a skid-row area for the rest. Keep it contained and isolated, and nobody is allowed to camp in public. None of this is rocket science but we've become so fucking soft-headed and stupid we lack the courage and will to honestly address the problem.
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Look?MikeDamone said:
JFC. You look stupid.2001400ex said:
I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it. -
Are?pawz said:
Look?MikeDamone said:
JFC. You look stupid.2001400ex said:
I didn't watch the video. Or even know the subject. I'm just here to say they SS and Medicare and food stamps say hello.MikeDamone said:
You’re just a big meanie who hates poor people and is greedy.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber STRONGLY believes that just letting people camp out and defecate in public, deface property, commit crimes and steal and generally act like savages (no disrespect intended @Swaye ) is fucked. Totally fucked and should not be tolerated. Period.SFGbob said:It's not a new problem we just stopped dealing with it the way we used to. You don't have a right to sleep on the street and camp in public. Mental ill people should be institutionalized. Public drunkeness and vagrancy laws should be enforced. We stopped doing all of these things and now we have what we have.
That said, Jake Browning still sucks, and there is very large percentage of the homeless who are there because of the ravages of addiction. Enabling drug use and providing safe places and needle exchanges and the like is beyond fucking stupid. It is like giving a mass shooter more ammo -and that's not hyperbole. It is fucking idiotic. And the chief idiots are the Seattle City Council and the bleeding hearts who claim 'you just don't understand, you heartless right winger".
First, I'm not a right winger - I'm a be your best self guy. And being your best self isn't taking free needles to keep putting poison in your veins. Being your best self isn't pissing on the sidewalk and stealing to buy more poison to put in the free needles. Being your best self isn't begging money off people at street corners and freeway exits. Being your best self isn't shitting on grave markers.
Until we? band together and say "Enough, we are hurting "these people" with how we are currently handling the problem, let's figure out a solution", we? are fucked. WE? must not continue to enable programs and behaviors that lead to both self- and societal-destruction. So why not arrest them, put them in treatment programs and provide them medication and counseling? The current methods and enablement aren't working, as good as they may sound in the 'you just don't understand their plight' mentality. I do understand their plight -they are caught in a disease. You don't give someone who has food poisoning more salmonella in his food in the hospital....why would you keep giving them needles? Or a spot to shoot up without interference? Didn't make any sense when they started those programs....certainly doesn't make any sense with the homeless camps over-running places like Seattle and San Francisco.
And even then, there will be a very small percentage who are just fucked up in the heads. It's genetic. It's been around for centuries. And, yes, R. Reagan may have dismantled mental institutions - but that doesn't mean a new Republic or new Democrat can't reinstate at least some portion of institutionalizing those are at risk of harming themselves or others. It's not a political question - it's a matter of protecting the public and the afflicted individual.
We are pissing money down a rathole to keep doing the same things that got us? to the current state.
The “Reagan emptied the mental institutions” thing is fuckatard. First off, mental health reform at the time had broad bipartisan support. Second, if it was a bad idea we’ve had 40 years and 4 administrations to fix it.
