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A study of 657,461 children shows vaccines do not cause autism

allpurpleallgold
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/a-study-of-657461-children-shows-that-vaccines-do-not-cause-autism/

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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,356 Founders Club
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2019/02/19/vaccine-injuries-exaggerated-personal-anecdotes.aspx
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    https://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,356 Founders Club
    https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/podcast/lifestyle-podcasts/should-kids-get-vaccinated/

    ...emerging evidence that certain childhood illnesses are actually protective of disease later in life; examines the role of fever, the gut, and cellular fluid in immune health; argues that vaccination is an ineffective (and harmful) attempt to shortcut a complex immune response; and asserts that the medical establishment has engaged in an authoritarian argument that robs parents of informed consent.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    https://www.davidgumpert.com/hot-alternative-doc-cowan-censured-ca-medical-authorities

    Can you find a single doctor that spouts this nonsense without something like this on his resume?

    Oh right, it’s giant conspiracy by the medical establishment. We also didn’t land on the moon, climate change isn’t real and the moon landing was faked. Derp.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,356 Founders Club
    allpurpleallgold said:

    https://www.davidgumpert.com/hot-alternative-doc-cowan-censured-ca-medical-authorities

    Can you find a single doctor that spouts this nonsense without something like this on his resume?

    Oh right, it’s giant conspiracy by the medical establishment. We also didn’t land on the moon, climate change isn’t real and the moon landing was faked. Derp.

    Can you think a bit more objectively? Like global warming, there is always going to be an effort to discredit anyone who gets in the way of the agenda.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science doesn't have an agenda, but a lot of "scientists" do. When you grow up you might actually learn that lesson.

    I have no dog in this vaccine food fight, but will say that it fits well within the realm of natural selection that antibiotics, anti-virals and vaccinations all come with unintended consequences, as well as immediate risks associated with their use. Where one draws the line on that risk should be a personal decision. The meme using polio as an example of the foolhardiness of avoiding vaccines has some merit. Polio is a devastating disease. IMHO, a vaccination against such a disease is well worth the risk. Vaccination for Measles, Mumps and Rubella? That's arguable.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Waking up to a Derek v APAG all night battle was a pleasant surprise.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Southerndawg said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science doesn't have an agenda, but a lot of "scientists" do. When you grow up you might actually learn that lesson.

    I have no dog in this vaccine food fight, but will say that it fits well within the realm of natural selection that antibiotics, anti-virals and vaccinations all come with unintended consequences, as well as immediate risks associated with their use. Where one draws the line on that risk should be a personal decision. The meme using polio as an example of the foolhardiness of avoiding vaccines has some merit. Polio is a devastating disease. IMHO, a vaccination against such a disease is well worth the risk. Vaccination for Measles, Mumps and Rubella? That's arguable.
    Best post in the thread. Where we landed with our kids is this: we think there probably are some risks to vaccination that aren’t fully understood yet (not autism though). As you said unintended consequences would be a normal result here.

    But we know there are some huge risks to not vaccinating that are fully understood.

    We love our kids so we vaccinated them.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    What about child 657,462?
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Southerndawg said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science doesn't have an agenda, but a lot of "scientists" do. When you grow up you might actually learn that lesson.

    I have no dog in this vaccine food fight, but will say that it fits well within the realm of natural selection that antibiotics, anti-virals and vaccinations all come with unintended consequences, as well as immediate risks associated with their use. Where one draws the line on that risk should be a personal decision. The meme using polio as an example of the foolhardiness of avoiding vaccines has some merit. Polio is a devastating disease. IMHO, a vaccination against such a disease is well worth the risk. Vaccination for Measles, Mumps and Rubella? That's arguable.
    A scientist can have an agenda and then they have to get their research peer reviewed. And then anyone can read it. And then other scientists can test it and try and reproduce the results.

    Why can’t anyone do that with the horrible risks of vaccines? Oh right, it’s the biggest conspiracy in human history. But I’m the one that needs to grow up.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Southerndawg said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science doesn't have an agenda, but a lot of "scientists" do. When you grow up you might actually learn that lesson.

    I have no dog in this vaccine food fight, but will say that it fits well within the realm of natural selection that antibiotics, anti-virals and vaccinations all come with unintended consequences, as well as immediate risks associated with their use. Where one draws the line on that risk should be a personal decision. The meme using polio as an example of the foolhardiness of avoiding vaccines has some merit. Polio is a devastating disease. IMHO, a vaccination against such a disease is well worth the risk. Vaccination for Measles, Mumps and Rubella? That's arguable.
    A scientist can have an agenda and then they have to get their research peer reviewed. And then anyone can read it. And then other scientists can test it and try and reproduce the results.

    Why can’t anyone do that with the horrible risks of vaccines? Oh right, it’s the biggest conspiracy in human history. But I’m the one that needs to grow up.
    South dog thinks the conspiracy is with scientists. And that political pundits and politicians don't have an agenda, are truthful about vaccines, and know more than scientists.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Wait - you guys think vaccines cause autism?? lolololololol
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Southerndawg said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science doesn't have an agenda, but a lot of "scientists" do. When you grow up you might actually learn that lesson.

    I have no dog in this vaccine food fight, but will say that it fits well within the realm of natural selection that antibiotics, anti-virals and vaccinations all come with unintended consequences, as well as immediate risks associated with their use. Where one draws the line on that risk should be a personal decision. The meme using polio as an example of the foolhardiness of avoiding vaccines has some merit. Polio is a devastating disease. IMHO, a vaccination against such a disease is well worth the risk. Vaccination for Measles, Mumps and Rubella? That's arguable.
    A scientist can have an agenda and then they have to get their research peer reviewed. And then anyone can read it. And then other scientists can test it and try and reproduce the results.

    Why can’t anyone do that with the horrible risks of vaccines? Oh right, it’s the biggest conspiracy in human history. But I’m the one that needs to grow up.
    As I said, I have no dog in your vaccine food fight. @HillsboroDuck had the best response. He and his wife used a reasoned risk-benefit assessment to lead them to the decision to vaccinate their kids. Their decision, not someone else's. That's as it should be.

    But here you go again. More naivety. Science is pure because scientists are kept in check by other scientists. The problem with peer reviews is the peer part. They're not always objective. This is especially true when there is a lot of money betting on a particular outcome. Again, when you grow up, you might learn this lesson. Or not.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    edited March 2019
    lololololol
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Southerndawg said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science doesn't have an agenda, but a lot of "scientists" do. When you grow up you might actually learn that lesson.

    I have no dog in this vaccine food fight, but will say that it fits well within the realm of natural selection that antibiotics, anti-virals and vaccinations all come with unintended consequences, as well as immediate risks associated with their use. Where one draws the line on that risk should be a personal decision. The meme using polio as an example of the foolhardiness of avoiding vaccines has some merit. Polio is a devastating disease. IMHO, a vaccination against such a disease is well worth the risk. Vaccination for Measles, Mumps and Rubella? That's arguable.
    A scientist can have an agenda and then they have to get their research peer reviewed. And then anyone can read it. And then other scientists can test it and try and reproduce the results.

    Why can’t anyone do that with the horrible risks of vaccines? Oh right, it’s the biggest conspiracy in human history. But I’m the one that needs to grow up.
    South dog thinks the conspiracy is with scientists. And that political pundits and politicians don't have an agenda, are truthful about vaccines, and know more than scientists.
    Someone forgot to vaccinate you.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Hahaha you fuckers are stupid and crazy and filled with Russian propaganda. lololol

    Christ. Oh well, I guess this is what 25 years of Limbaugh and Fox do to you.

    God you guys are hysterical. Holy fuck - vaccine truthers???? lofl lololololololololololol

    They’re actually moving on from autism claiming it’s going to cause mysterious problems that we can’t even fathom yet.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science has an agenda in some instances. Like global warming.
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  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    So is the owner of this site an anti-vaxxer?
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    MariotaTheGawd said:

    So is the owner of this site an anti-vaxxer?

    The owner operator. Derek. He's been a Rush Limbaugh fan since the 90s.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    MariotaTheGawd said:

    So is the owner of this site an anti-vaxxer?

    If only the board had gotten a vaccine for you.
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    edited March 2019
    Sledog said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science has an agenda in some instances. Like global warming.


    Science has no agenda, but people can and often do when there's lots of green involved.







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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    Southerndawg said:

    Sledog said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science has an agenda in some instances. Like global warming.


    Science has no agenda, but people can and often do when there's lots of green involved.







    Exactly. No global warming = no grants= no job. Global warming is real! We'll all die in 10 years! Cow farts!
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    People forget that science was a vital part of allowing slavery to exist in America. Its why even those against slavery still thought of Black as inferior beings. Because the science was settled and a few hundred years of indoctrination was very powerful. You still see racists like H and hondo to this day who feel they are superior simply based on their skin color
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  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    RaceBannon said:

    MariotaTheGawd said:

    So is the owner of this site an anti-vaxxer?

    Great plantation mentality as always

    There is no owner. This site belongs to the people man

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  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    RaceBannon said:

    MariotaTheGawd said:

    So is the owner of this site an anti-vaxxer?

    Great plantation mentality as always

    There is no owner. This site belongs to the people man
    i don't think that's how it works
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Southerndawg said:

    Sledog said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Objectively, you’re getting hustled. First it caused autism, we need more studies, more studies come in showing no link, so they move on to the next bullshit argument.

    Science doesn’t have an agenda. You prove science wrong with more science. When you can’t, it’s not because of a conspiracy, it’s because you’re wrong.

    You wrote that this guy argues that vaccines are ineffective and you have the audacity to tell me to be objective. Motherfucker who do you know that has polio?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/axfqhz/saw_this_on_facebook_and_idk_if_its_true_but_the/

    You spread this misinformation and the blood is on your hands too.

    Science has an agenda in some instances. Like global warming.


    Science has no agenda, but people can and often do when there's lots of green involved.







    Again, you think scientists have an agenda for research funds. And you don't think politicians and political pundits have a monetary agenda? You are dumber than I thought, which is a challenge.
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