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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    It’s a private business that can do what it wants, no?
  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673
    Not the argument, at all.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    They're just trying to save the planet
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    It’s a private business that can do what it wants, no?

    Not if they're a bakery that doesn't want to make a cake for a gay marriage.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    SFGbob said:

    It’s a private business that can do what it wants, no?

    Not if they're a bakery that doesn't want to make a cake for a gay marriage.
    You can’t find any differences between homosexuality and a hat?
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited February 2019

    SFGbob said:

    It’s a private business that can do what it wants, no?

    Not if they're a bakery that doesn't want to make a cake for a gay marriage.
    You can’t find any differences between homosexuality and a hat?
    I can find a difference between homosexuality and a hat, but I see no difference from restaurant that wants to ban someone because of a hat and a bakery that refuses to bake a cake for a gay wedding. Most of those bakeries had no problem with having gay customers they just didn't want to be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding. This restaurant is banning anyone who wears the hat under all circumstances.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,477 Founders Club

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    For all the talk of inclusion that's the left has forced down our throats the last decade, making a distinction here is antithetical to those mores.

    You want to actually be inclusive, fine. But don't be a fucking hypocrite when it doesn't serve your agenda.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    pawz said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    For all the talk of inclusion that's the left has forced down our throats the last decade, making a distinction here is antithetical to those mores.

    You want to actually be inclusive, fine. But don't be a fucking hypocrite when it doesn't serve your agenda.
    Being a hypocrite doesn’t make you wrong.

    I do not think the MAGA hat is a symbol for hate or like a KKK hood. I would prefer people not banning it but I understand why some do view it that way.

    Maybe you guys should try doing a better job explaining your positions so it isn’t so easily confused with racism.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    We all need to hear what the other person is saying and respect it

    Not really
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    Both rely upon how the person identifies at a particular time.



  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    Both rely upon how the person identifies at a particular time.



    Technically, you can't discriminate against a person for being straight either.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2019
    Let's take a moment to recognize the bravery
    It hasn’t happened yet, but if you come to my restaurant wearing a MAGA cap, you aren’t getting served, same as if you come in wearing a swastika, white hood, or any other symbol of intolerance and hate.

    — J. Kenji “Individual Fun” López-Alt (@kenjilopezalt) January 27, 2019

    With perhaps tens of dollars in lost business at stake, he chose to make a stand.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2019

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
    We have a lot of them, don't we?
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Blu82 said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
    We have a lot of them, don't we?
    No, we don’t. Because libertarians can’t win elections.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    pawz said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    For all the talk of inclusion that's the left has forced down our throats the last decade, making a distinction here is antithetical to those mores.

    You want to actually be inclusive, fine. But don't be a fucking hypocrite when it doesn't serve your agenda.
    Being a hypocrite doesn’t make you wrong.

    I do not think the MAGA hat is a symbol for hate or like a KKK hood. I would prefer people not banning it but I understand why some do view it that way.

    Maybe you guys should try doing a better job explaining your positions so it isn’t so easily confused with racism.

    Please, the left's go to attack is accuse the other side of being racist. There's no "confusing" with racism. Every single Republican President and Republican Presidential candidate since Nixon, including the Sainted McCain and even Romney were called racists by the left.

  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673

    Blu82 said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
    We have a lot of them, don't we?
    No, we don’t. Because libertarians can’t win elections.
    So why try to take this into the weeds by bringing it up?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,477 Founders Club
    edited February 2019

    Blu82 said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
    We have a lot of them, don't we?
    No, we don’t. Because libertarians can’t win elections.
    Fun History Fact of the Day: Slaves were taken away from Democrats.


    Hope this helps.


  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673
    pawz said:

    Blu82 said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
    We have a lot of them, don't we?
    No, we don’t. Because libertarians can’t win elections.
    Fun History Fact of the Day: Slaves were taken away from Democrats.


    Hope this helps.


    Before or after they magically became R's?
    This is so confusing. I'll ax George Wallace.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Blu82 said:

    Blu82 said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
    We have a lot of them, don't we?
    No, we don’t. Because libertarians can’t win elections.
    So why try to take this into the weeds by bringing it up?
    Because I hate libertarians.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Blu82 said:

    Blu82 said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
    We have a lot of them, don't we?
    No, we don’t. Because libertarians can’t win elections.
    So why try to take this into the weeds by bringing it up?
    Because I hate libertarians.

  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673
    Your rainbow is pretty.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,477 Founders Club

    Blu82 said:

    Blu82 said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    An individual being forced to do art for someone for any reason is aggression on that individual. Not surprised the leftists have no issue with it.
    And this is how you justify whites only restaurants.
    We have a lot of them, don't we?
    No, we don’t. Because libertarians can’t win elections.
    So why try to take this into the weeds by bringing it up?
    Because I hate libertarians.
    Why? They basically want the same thing you do with regards to the establishment - save the size and scope of government.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    pawz said:

    I agree with APAG here. I find the banning of the hat childish and quite frankly cowardly. But, there is a difference between discriminating against somebody's sexual preference and somebody's political affiliation, in that one is federally protected and the other isn't.

    For all the talk of inclusion that's the left has forced down our throats the last decade, making a distinction here is antithetical to those mores.

    You want to actually be inclusive, fine. But don't be a fucking hypocrite when it doesn't serve your agenda.
    Being a hypocrite doesn’t make you wrong.

    I do not think the MAGA hat is a symbol for hate or like a KKK hood. I would prefer people not banning it but I understand why some do view it that way.

    Maybe you guys should try doing a better job explaining your positions so it isn’t so easily confused with racism.

    Please, the left's go to attack is accuse the other side of being racist. There's no "confusing" with racism. Every single Republican President and Republican Presidential candidate since Nixon, including the Sainted McCain and even Romney were called racists by the left.

    This is actually true