Airlines Say They’re Close to a ‘Tipping Point’ Due to the Shutdown

insinceredawg

I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

“We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”

MikeDamone

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

RaceBannon

Friday is tomorrow. A day early and still a dollar short

allpurpleallgold

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?

PurpleThrobber

https://guyjest.com/stewardess-makes-a-cool-million-bonking-passengers/

The Throbber is available to avert any potential slowdown in the airline industry.

MikeDamone

allpurpleallgold said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?

A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.

GrundleStiltzkin

insinceredawg said:

I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

“We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”

This sounds like a problem. It should be fixed.

Pitchfork51

MikeDamone said:

allpurpleallgold said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?

A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.

PurpleThrobber said:

https://guyjest.com/stewardess-makes-a-cool-million-bonking-passengers/

The Throbber is available to avert any potential slowdown in the airline industry.

Throbber 202
Plus purple is red and blue but also makes women and gays feel okay.

allpurpleallgold

MikeDamone said:

allpurpleallgold said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?

A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.

But a private business isn’t responsible for providing their own security. If you own a store and that store gets robbed you can call the police. I’m assuming you’re not against that. It’s not preventative the way TSA is but simply having a police force on the ground is a form of prevention. And given that we can’t police the sky the same way we police the ground and the massive threat that air travel can be (see 9/11), preventative seems like to best option to me.

You seem focused on the private business aspect of this but to me your stance means American citizens have to forfeit their right to be protected from others in order to fly. In fact, I would argue making air travel security the responsibility of the airlines takes that right away from all Americans. Again, see 9/11.

I’m trying to get your position. I will be honest I’ve understood this to be the libertarian position for awhile, always thought it sounded dumb, because it’s libertarian, but I’ve never really thought it through. I’m not going to agree with it but I’m having a hard time even making sense of it.

MikeDamone

allpurpleallgold said:

MikeDamone said:

allpurpleallgold said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?

A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.

But a private business isn’t responsible for providing their own security. If you own a store and that store gets robbed you can call the police. I’m assuming you’re not against that. It’s not preventative the way TSA is but simply having a police force on the ground is a form of prevention. And given that we can’t police the sky the same way we police the ground and the massive threat that air travel can be (see 9/11), preventative seems like to best option to me.

You seem focused on the private business aspect of this but to me your stance means American citizens have to forfeit their right to be protected from others in order to fly. In fact, I would argue making air travel security the responsibility of the airlines takes that right away from all Americans. Again, see 9/11.

I’m trying to get your position. I will be honest I’ve understood this to be the libertarian position for awhile, always thought it sounded dumb, because it’s libertarian, but I’ve never really thought it through. I’m not going to agree with it but I’m having a hard time even making sense of it.

If the airline gets robbed, they can call the police. If a store (or stripclub) wants security who check every person who enters the building, they pay for their own security.

Airlines have no interest in allowing crimes to be committed while using their service and poor security would likely put them out of business. Without the current “system” they would replace it with one they control and pay for. Just my opinion.

RoadTrip

insinceredawg said:

I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

“We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”

Fuck Off

SFGbob

I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.



Says the dipshit that wants the government to pay for his healthcare and provide him with "free" college.

2001400ex

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.

Dude61

Yet Democrats won't vote for a bill to pay the furloughed workers, proving yet again Democrats really don't give a shit about the average working person.

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.

Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.

Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.

Bob. Fucktarded as always.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml

MikeDamone

2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.

Yes I do. And so?

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.

Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.

Bob. Fucktarded as always.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml

They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.

BennyBeaver

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.

Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.

Bob. Fucktarded as always.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml

but still

SFGbob

BennyBeaver said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.

Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.

Bob. Fucktarded as always.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml

but still

Let me show you the difference between me and everyone other one of you liberal Kunts that post here. I misspoke, the GOP opposed making them Unionized public employees not public employees.

No days long jackass dance where I parse the meaning of "public" employee, no running and hiding like a Kunt. I misspoke. Unlike you pathetic libs my ego isn't so fragile that I can't admit when I'm wrong.

The GOP opposed making them Unionized public employees.

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.

And the Rats decided to give those "socialized" public employees collective bargaining rights. The only reasons the Rats opposed making them public employees is because the GOP didn't want make them unionized employees. They had no fucking problem with the "Socialization."