Would you vote for AOC for president? The answer may shock you.

allpurpleallgold

https://www.surveymonkey.com/curiosity/axios-poll-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/

It begins.

RaceBannon

Awfully 2019 for 2024

Pace is important

allpurpleallgold

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

2001400ex

allpurpleallgold said:

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

She definitely has mastered free pub and triggering conservatives. I think a lot of her policies are where we will be as a country in 40-50 years. We aren't there yet but revolutions don't happen overnight.

allpurpleallgold

How dare you sully my thread, about an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for president poll, with this incremental progress bullshit.

I have defended you as many as two times on this bored, I now regret both of them.

sarktastic

2001400ex said:

allpurpleallgold said:

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

She definitely has mastered free pub and triggering conservatives. I think a lot of her policies are where we will be as a country in 40-50 years. We aren't there yet but revolutions don't happen overnight.

Isn’t calling for revolution against board rules?

DerekJohnson

sarktastic said:

2001400ex said:

allpurpleallgold said:

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

She definitely has mastered free pub and triggering conservatives. I think a lot of her policies are where we will be as a country in 40-50 years. We aren't there yet but revolutions don't happen overnight.

Isn’t calling for revolution against board rules?

genocide, homey

pawz

DerekJohnson said:

sarktastic said:

2001400ex said:

allpurpleallgold said:

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

She definitely has mastered free pub and triggering conservatives. I think a lot of her policies are where we will be as a country in 40-50 years. We aren't there yet but revolutions don't happen overnight.

Isn’t calling for revolution against board rules?

genocide, homey

The French Revolution called and wants to know how that is different.

pawz

allpurpleallgold said:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/curiosity/axios-poll-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/

It begins.

RaceBannon

allpurpleallgold said:

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

I do wonder if Trump won't be stale by 2020. We? are awfully fickle about our 15 minutes. If Trump wins she has a good shot to be the face of the opposition for his second term. Because there isn't anymore skin on Nancy's face to stretch.

AOC was the only democrat to vote against the democrats on a meaningless open the government bill because it funded ICE. Smart move

UW_Doog_Bot

RaceBannon said:

allpurpleallgold said:

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

I do wonder if Trump won't be stale by 2020. We? are awfully fickle about our 15 minutes. If Trump wins she has a good shot to be the face of the opposition for his second term. Because there isn't anymore skin on Nancy's face to stretch.

AOC was the only democrat to vote against the democrats on a meaningless open the government bill because it funded ICE. Smart move

I'd say there's a whole hoast of GOP regulars that will tally up and vote Trump for the party line now that a lot of his talk has proved to be just that, talk.

The real question is if he can continue to keep the Dems white working class base from them. So far, they seem to be doubling down on alienating that group though.

RaceBannon

UW_Doog_Bot said:

RaceBannon said:

allpurpleallgold said:

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

I do wonder if Trump won't be stale by 2020. We? are awfully fickle about our 15 minutes. If Trump wins she has a good shot to be the face of the opposition for his second term. Because there isn't anymore skin on Nancy's face to stretch.

AOC was the only democrat to vote against the democrats on a meaningless open the government bill because it funded ICE. Smart move

I'd say there's a whole hoast of GOP regulars that will tally up and vote Trump for the party line now that a lot of his talk has proved to be just that, talk.

The real question is if he can continue to keep the Dems white working class base from them. So far, they seem to be doubling down on alienating that group though.

Trump is in a good position for the nomination. One thing he has done is show how big of a pussy the Kasich, Romeny, Bush wing is. I know the GOP dreams of someone as smooth as Romney with the bloody big balls of Trump but that person doesn't exist

Agree that the dems are doing their best to not win the middle back and by going low with Trump they lose any alleged higher ground they once planned on occupying

Swaye

allpurpleallgold said:

How dare you sully my thread, about an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for president poll, with this incremental progress bullshit.

I have defended you as many as two times on this bored, I now regret both of them.

POTW

RaceBannon

Under rated quote and more evidence that she is the left wing Trump

“I say true things all the time – I’d hope most do. When does Politifact choose to rate true statements?” she said.

Her Twitterstorm comes a day after she said in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” that critics seizing on false words or figures are “missing the forest for the trees.”

“I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,” she told host Anderson Cooper in the interview that aired Sunday.

She went on to say that her mistakes shouldn’t be equated with false comments made by President Trump.

“Whenever I make a mistake. I say, ‘OK, this was clumsy,’ and then I restate what my point was. But it’s not the same thing as the president lying about immigrants. It’s not the same thing, at all,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

But the Washington Post fact-checkers haven’t been easy on Trump.


Both shoot from the hip and if you aren't a fly speck literalist you usually know where they are going. After two years of daily threads here on Trump said this!!!!1111!!!!!! we get the same for Cortez

Its stupid IMO

Blu82

allpurpleallgold said:

How dare you sully my thread, about an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for president poll, with this incremental progress bullshit.

I have defended you as many as two times on this bored, I now regret both of them.

What a shame. Just yesterday you were saying how happy you were to be on Team Hondo.

Pitchfork51

I'm hearing there won't be a country by 2020

allpurpleallgold

UW_Doog_Bot said:

RaceBannon said:

allpurpleallgold said:

I think that’s a fair comment. I’d counter with a few points.

1. She has so much ground to make up that a brisk pace is important. We are certainly passing brisk currently though.

2. Trump has changed the standards in political coverage. If this was 4 years ago I’d be terrified of burn out but now it just kinda seems normal.

And finally, her goal should be for a Democrat that supports her policies to win the White House in 2020. Assuming that’s the case, this is the correct pace.

I do wonder if Trump won't be stale by 2020. We? are awfully fickle about our 15 minutes. If Trump wins she has a good shot to be the face of the opposition for his second term. Because there isn't anymore skin on Nancy's face to stretch.

AOC was the only democrat to vote against the democrats on a meaningless open the government bill because it funded ICE. Smart move

I'd say there's a whole hoast of GOP regulars that will tally up and vote Trump for the party line now that a lot of his talk has proved to be just that, talk.

The real question is if he can continue to keep the Dems white working class base from them. So far, they seem to be doubling down on alienating that group though.

I think doubling down on alienating them is a bullshit narrative. Some of the social stuff does, for sure, but this is the same voting block that voted for Obama because he was black and well spoken. The same voting block that liked Bernie. And the same block Trump won using specific language to appeal to them. You give them a reason to vote for you and I believe the differences on social issues become less important.

Progressives have thrown a lot of stuff out there but, I’ll be honest, it hasn’t stuck yet. I still think Medicare For All could be the hook. No one gets fucked harder by insurance companies than the working class. I think the Green New Deal could be the hook. I’d like to see people like AOC shift the messaging away from the world and make it American centric. Something like “this threatens our way of life” would be better than “the world is going to end”.

What’s going to alienate that voting block is running a moderate Democrat out there that thinks they can win on “not Trump”. There was just a thread yesterday where creepycoug basically said the Democrats can do whatever they want and progressives will just have to fall in line. They’re not interested in giving anyone a reason to vote for them. That’s the reason Trump owns them.

Pitchfork51

Democrats lose because they decided to hang their hat on illegals while alienating the blue collar workforce.

It's as simple as that. Nobody but lefitsts who thry already have in the bag cares about illegals.

They chose to tell a major portion of their base to fuck off and decided to focus on people who can't even vote. What a genius move.

allpurpleallgold

RaceBannon said:

Under rated quote and more evidence that she is the left wing Trump

“I say true things all the time – I’d hope most do. When does Politifact choose to rate true statements?” she said.

Her Twitterstorm comes a day after she said in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” that critics seizing on false words or figures are “missing the forest for the trees.”

“I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,” she told host Anderson Cooper in the interview that aired Sunday.

She went on to say that her mistakes shouldn’t be equated with false comments made by President Trump.

“Whenever I make a mistake. I say, ‘OK, this was clumsy,’ and then I restate what my point was. But it’s not the same thing as the president lying about immigrants. It’s not the same thing, at all,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

But the Washington Post fact-checkers haven’t been easy on Trump.


Both shoot from the hip and if you aren't a fly speck literalist you usually know where they are going. After two years of daily threads here on Trump said this!!!!1111!!!!!! we get the same for Cortez

Its stupid IMO

I’m not scared of the Trump comparisons. It was there with Bernie and it’s there with AOC. If anything comparing her to the president just legitimizes her.

RaceBannon

allpurpleallgold said:

RaceBannon said:

Under rated quote and more evidence that she is the left wing Trump

“I say true things all the time – I’d hope most do. When does Politifact choose to rate true statements?” she said.

Her Twitterstorm comes a day after she said in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” that critics seizing on false words or figures are “missing the forest for the trees.”

“I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,” she told host Anderson Cooper in the interview that aired Sunday.

She went on to say that her mistakes shouldn’t be equated with false comments made by President Trump.

“Whenever I make a mistake. I say, ‘OK, this was clumsy,’ and then I restate what my point was. But it’s not the same thing as the president lying about immigrants. It’s not the same thing, at all,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

But the Washington Post fact-checkers haven’t been easy on Trump.


Both shoot from the hip and if you aren't a fly speck literalist you usually know where they are going. After two years of daily threads here on Trump said this!!!!1111!!!!!! we get the same for Cortez

Its stupid IMO

I’m not scared of the Trump comparisons. It was there with Bernie and it’s there with AOC. If anything comparing her to the president just legitimizes her.

The comparison isn't meant as an insult. More a cautionary tale and I really do think this daily literal nonsense of he said she said is stupid

I've been making the comparison for some time now because the REAL enemy is the entrenched establishment. Cortez as President would find the same road blocks that Trump is finding. We really aren't a dictatorship. That's another stupid idea that gets thrown around

I'm more than happy to focus the debate on how socialist we want to be keeping capitalism as our base line. I'm not a purist

Blu82

RaceBannon said:

Under rated quote and more evidence that she is the left wing Trump

“I say true things all the time – I’d hope most do. When does Politifact choose to rate true statements?” she said.

Her Twitterstorm comes a day after she said in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” that critics seizing on false words or figures are “missing the forest for the trees.”

“I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,” she told host Anderson Cooper in the interview that aired Sunday.

She went on to say that her mistakes shouldn’t be equated with false comments made by President Trump.

“Whenever I make a mistake. I say, ‘OK, this was clumsy,’ and then I restate what my point was. But it’s not the same thing as the president lying about immigrants. It’s not the same thing, at all,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

But the Washington Post fact-checkers haven’t been easy on Trump.


Both shoot from the hip and if you aren't a fly speck literalist you usually know where they are going. After two years of daily threads here on Trump said this!!!!1111!!!!!! we get the same for Cortez

Its stupid IMO

Oh, fuck off Race. She was just not speaking with comprehension. Every one of you simple minds knows the difference!