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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,759 Standard Supporter

    Billionaires are fine.

    I wouldn't necessarily have a problem if there were regulations enacted limiting CEO pay to a multiple of some function of the mean employee salaries. Some of those cats are just raking in dough for having minions and not doing shit. I've met them - they aren't worth 100,000 times the wage of a line worker. They just aren't.

    I don't have an issue if their rewards are commensurate with Share Price or some such measurement.

    I find AOC likes to drop the 'immoral' line regularly. Eventually that just wears off.

    And she best be careful with playing the morality card too often because you know her nude pics/sex with goats videos are being held in a remote server somewhere just waiting to be unleashed on the world.

    There was Clinton era law that capped CEO pay so they went to stock options which pay better and are taxed lower

    That showed them

    Why do people get paid so much? Because they can
    There's a new disclosure requirement for public companies that now require Executive pay be compared to the median of the workers. The hope is that the market will recognize the robber barons and punish their share price.

    That's the hope any way.

    As you say, they'll figure out ways around it.

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Billionaires are fine.

    I wouldn't necessarily have a problem if there were regulations enacted limiting CEO pay to a multiple of some function of the mean employee salaries. Some of those cats are just raking in dough for having minions and not doing shit. I've met them - they aren't worth 100,000 times the wage of a line worker. They just aren't.

    I don't have an issue if their rewards are commensurate with Share Price or some such measurement.

    I find AOC likes to drop the 'immoral' line regularly. Eventually that just wears off.

    And she best be careful with playing the morality card too often because you know her nude pics/sex with goats videos are being held in a remote server somewhere just waiting to be unleashed on the world.

    I agree playing the morality card is very risky which is why I think what she’s doing is incredibly brave. This isn’t about her political career. I think that’s something a lot of people are struggling to get with her. We always view politicians as making moves around advancing their career but she’s genuinely trying to use her platform to shift the conversation.

    She’s made this a conversation and it’s not going to take a lot for poor Christian conservatives to realize what she’s saying sounds awfully familiar. And while she’ll never swing them to Democrats, if she can get 5, 10 or 15 percent of them to come around on taxing the rich it goes from fringe lunatic policy to 70 plus percent of the country wanting it and you just lose elections running against things like that.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a sophomoric statement, blob. Of course, you couch your economic arguments as moral arguments too, so you're just the opposite side of the same counterfeit coin.

    My problem isn't that she was making it a moral argument my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend. I was just asking if you agreed with it. It's immoral in my book to steal the labor of others. You being a Rat, you and your party have a long, long history supporting the stealing of labor in others. The fact that she was making some kind of moral argument isn't what bothered me.

    Workers wages have been stagnant for 50 years. Their productivity has sky rocketed. Profits have sky rocketed. CEO pay has sky rocketed. We call that stealing the labor of others.
    We agree to a certain degree - so bookmark this post as historic.

    See my post above regarding CEO/Executive pay. It's almost reached robber baron/coal miner multiples. Kind of ridiculous. As the pie grows, it should be shared pro-rata.

    Fuck, I sound like a communist. Fuck me. And fuck AOC's tits for making me even contemplate that.

    If she'd just get her teeth fixed....


    Literally all she wants is people to contemplate that.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a sophomoric statement, blob. Of course, you couch your economic arguments as moral arguments too, so you're just the opposite side of the same counterfeit coin.

    My problem isn't that she was making it a moral argument my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend. I was just asking if you agreed with it. It's immoral in my book to steal the labor of others. You being a Rat, you and your party have a long, long history supporting the stealing of labor in others. The fact that she was making some kind of moral argument isn't what bothered me.

    Workers wages have been stagnant for 50 years. Their productivity has sky rocketed. Profits have sky rocketed. CEO pay has sky rocketed. We call that stealing the labor of others.
    We agree to a certain degree - so bookmark this post as historic.

    See my post above regarding CEO/Executive pay. It's almost reached robber baron/coal miner multiples. Kind of ridiculous. As the pie grows, it should be shared pro-rata.

    Fuck, I sound like a communist. Fuck me. And fuck AOC's tits for making me even contemplate that.

    If she'd just get her teeth fixed....


    Literally all she wants is people to contemplate that.
    She’s not thinking that far ahead. You give her way too much credit.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Billionaires are fine.

    I wouldn't necessarily have a problem if there were regulations enacted limiting CEO pay to a multiple of some function of the mean employee salaries. Some of those cats are just raking in dough for having minions and not doing shit. I've met them - they aren't worth 100,000 times the wage of a line worker. They just aren't.

    I don't have an issue if their rewards are commensurate with Share Price or some such measurement.

    I find AOC likes to drop the 'immoral' line regularly. Eventually that just wears off.

    And she best be careful with playing the morality card too often because you know her nude pics/sex with goats videos are being held in a remote server somewhere just waiting to be unleashed on the world.

    There was Clinton era law that capped CEO pay so they went to stock options which pay better and are taxed lower

    That showed them

    Why do people get paid so much? Because they can
    There's a new disclosure requirement for public companies that now require Executive pay be compared to the median of the workers. The hope is that the market will recognize the robber barons and punish their share price.

    That's the hope any way.

    As you say, they'll figure out ways around it.

    The disclosure requirement is the perfect enscapulation of the failures of modern liberalism. As if simply making public the pay disparity would create a change instead of doing actual politics and using political power to change it. But Democrats since Carter have been terrified of actually wielding state power for their constituents benefit.

    But it looks like that’s starting to change at least.

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Maybe. I’ve been wrong before and I’ll be wrong again. We’ll see.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Billionaires are fine.

    I wouldn't necessarily have a problem if there were regulations enacted limiting CEO pay to a multiple of some function of the mean employee salaries. Some of those cats are just raking in dough for having minions and not doing shit. I've met them - they aren't worth 100,000 times the wage of a line worker. They just aren't.

    I don't have an issue if their rewards are commensurate with Share Price or some such measurement.

    I find AOC likes to drop the 'immoral' line regularly. Eventually that just wears off.

    And she best be careful with playing the morality card too often because you know her nude pics/sex with goats videos are being held in a remote server somewhere just waiting to be unleashed on the world.

    There was Clinton era law that capped CEO pay so they went to stock options which pay better and are taxed lower

    That showed them

    Why do people get paid so much? Because they can
    There's a new disclosure requirement for public companies that now require Executive pay be compared to the median of the workers. The hope is that the market will recognize the robber barons and punish their share price.

    That's the hope any way.

    As you say, they'll figure out ways around it.

    The disclosure requirement is the perfect enscapulation of the failures of modern liberalism. As if simply making public the pay disparity would create a change instead of doing actual politics and using political power to change it. But Democrats since Carter have been terrified of actually wielding state power for their constituents benefit.

    But it looks like that’s starting to change at least.

    The public should stop paying the disparity. That’s how change happens.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Billionaires are fine.

    I wouldn't necessarily have a problem if there were regulations enacted limiting CEO pay to a multiple of some function of the mean employee salaries. Some of those cats are just raking in dough for having minions and not doing shit. I've met them - they aren't worth 100,000 times the wage of a line worker. They just aren't.

    I don't have an issue if their rewards are commensurate with Share Price or some such measurement.

    I find AOC likes to drop the 'immoral' line regularly. Eventually that just wears off.

    And she best be careful with playing the morality card too often because you know her nude pics/sex with goats videos are being held in a remote server somewhere just waiting to be unleashed on the world.

    I agree playing the morality card is very risky which is why I think what she’s doing is incredibly brave. This isn’t about her political career. I think that’s something a lot of people are struggling to get with her. We always view politicians as making moves around advancing their career but she’s genuinely trying to use her platform to shift the conversation.

    She’s made this a conversation and it’s not going to take a lot for poor Christian conservatives to realize what she’s saying sounds awfully familiar. And while she’ll never swing them to Democrats, if she can get 5, 10 or 15 percent of them to come around on taxing the rich it goes from fringe lunatic policy to 70 plus percent of the country wanting it and you just lose elections running against things like that.
    The real potential that her message has is non-voter > voter
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    She’s selling envy, trying to stoke the Mob. nothing more.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a sophomoric statement, blob. Of course, you couch your economic arguments as moral arguments too, so you're just the opposite side of the same counterfeit coin.

    My problem isn't that she was making it a moral argument my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend. I was just asking if you agreed with it. It's immoral in my book to steal the labor of others. You being a Rat, you and your party have a long, long history supporting the stealing of labor in others. The fact that she was making some kind of moral argument isn't what bothered me.

    Workers wages have been stagnant for 50 years. Their productivity has sky rocketed. Profits have sky rocketed. CEO pay has sky rocketed. We call that stealing the labor of others.
    The people who are getting ripped off should quit.


    Workers productively didn’t skyrocket. The productivity of technology skyrocketed. Workerrs, including CEOS, are still subject to supply and demand.
    I'm hearing it was an increase in minimum wage that caused businesses use of technology. Now you are saying technology has been increasing business productivity for years?