Happy to Vote for A Woman President

pawz

IWOODPIIHB.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/11/tulsi-gabbard-2020-president-run-1098629




I could strongly consider casting a vote. She seems more pragmatic then Left.

allpurpleallgold

She supports medicare for all, free college and the green new deal. Still strongly considering it?

pawz

allpurpleallgold said:

She supports medicare for all, free college and the green new deal. Still strongly considering it?

The first two are all about restructuring the system to control cost. If it's the same 'blank-check' approach as Bernie, than No. If green new deal is drawn up like AOC's plan to tax people through their eye-balls, then No.




https://youtu.be/oIb2lmHgd5s

allpurpleallgold

So, I’m not going to watch the interview right now but I will try and get to it. I’m happy to have another progressive voice in the process. I’m guessing though that one of two things happened. She’s either a slimy politician that just tells different groups what they want to hear or she understood her audience and sold you on Bernie’s and AOC’s policies. One of those would doom her in this political climate and the other would make her a real contender.

Sledog

progressive=communist. Stop sugar coating this shit and come out and say what you mean!

RaceBannon

I support unfucking up our health care insurance and delivery system. The last attempt did not make it better. The entrenched in DC don't really want to make it better. They do have the best healthcare in the world and we pay for it. A little class warfare there.

2001400ex

RaceBannon said:

I support unfucking up our health care insurance and delivery system. The last attempt did not make it better. The entrenched in DC don't really want to make it better. They do have the best healthcare in the world and we pay for it. A little class warfare there.

Obamacare did have some good things. For one, it did cut costs on Medicare and such and overall, the growth in medical and insurance costs slowed. Two, setting up exchanges on the internet to shop is something that needed to happen and wouldn't have otherwise.

You can argue other things such as the individual mandate and additional taxes and some of the regulations which added costs to Businesses, such as the annual ACA reporting requirement.

That being said, and you will disagree with this. But as long as there is a profit motive in people's health Care decisions, the system will be fucked up. The government is awful and inefficient. But everyone on this board would save money, and have the same care, if we went to a single payer system. (Assuming it was done right which is a whole other argument)

RaceBannon

Fuck off

BennyBeaver

RaceBannon said:

I support unfucking up our health care insurance and delivery system. The last attempt did not make it better. The entrenched in DC don't really want to make it better. They do have the best healthcare in the world and we pay for it. A little class warfare there.

Actual lucidity from the addled brain of Grandpa Race. Kudos.

BennyBeaver

pawz said:

allpurpleallgold said:

She supports medicare for all, free college and the green new deal. Still strongly considering it?

The first two are all about restructuring the system to control cost. If it's the same 'blank-check' approach as Bernie, than No. If green new deal is drawn up like AOC's plan to tax people through their eye-balls, then No.




https://youtu.be/oIb2lmHgd5s

*then

HFNY

Since over 50% of healthcare spending is paid by Medicare / Medicaid already, market forces are pretty much impossible going forward in health care.

By law, Emergency Departments must treat every person who walks through their doors and it is the most expensive point of care / service. That doesn't make any financial sense, neither does Congress prohibiting Medicare / Medicaid; that defies economies of scale and purchasing power. What sense does that make?

Medicare and Medicaid block grants to the states could be a solution.

To get Republicans on board, there might need to be some changes to HUD for a compromise. The Federal Government is too big, has had significant mission creep since the 60's, and since it can run annual deficits (unlike the States), more waste (than usual government spending) happens at the Federal level.

PurpleThrobber

The Throbber envisions just a ridiculous S&M, foursome hate fuck session with Tulsi Gabbard, OAC and Kyrsten Sinema. Then light them all on fire.

greenblood

She has no chance...unfortunately

She’s much more moderate than most on the left, and that’s the very thing that will kill her chances.

pawz

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

I support unfucking up our health care insurance and delivery system. The last attempt did not make it better. The entrenched in DC don't really want to make it better. They do have the best healthcare in the world and we pay for it. A little class warfare there.

Obamacare did have some good things. For one, it did cut costs on Medicare and such and overall, the growth in medical and insurance costs slowed. Two, setting up exchanges on the internet to shop is something that needed to happen and wouldn't have otherwise.

You can argue other things such as the individual mandate and additional taxes and some of the regulations which added costs to Businesses, such as the annual ACA reporting requirement.

That being said, and you will disagree with this. But as long as there is a profit motive in people's health Care decisions, the system will be fucked up. The government is awful and inefficient. But everyone on this board would save money, and have the same care, if we went to a single payer system. (Assuming it was done right which is a whole other argument)

You're such a fucking piece of shit of a human being. Go fuck yourself.


#aclockworkshill #rightontim

PurpleThrobber

Just watched a bit.

Yeah, for sure I'd fuck her. It might even not be hateful. Seems like a decent person. Probably would be up for so hot lesbo/threesome action too.

I'm not gonna vote for her shit but for a politician, she's a sold 7 or 8.

Palin's tits are still better. And she's fucked an NBA player so Tulsi's got some catchup to do. A boob job and a visit to the Lakers preseason camp.

2001400ex

pawz said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

I support unfucking up our health care insurance and delivery system. The last attempt did not make it better. The entrenched in DC don't really want to make it better. They do have the best healthcare in the world and we pay for it. A little class warfare there.

Obamacare did have some good things. For one, it did cut costs on Medicare and such and overall, the growth in medical and insurance costs slowed. Two, setting up exchanges on the internet to shop is something that needed to happen and wouldn't have otherwise.

You can argue other things such as the individual mandate and additional taxes and some of the regulations which added costs to Businesses, such as the annual ACA reporting requirement.

That being said, and you will disagree with this. But as long as there is a profit motive in people's health Care decisions, the system will be fucked up. The government is awful and inefficient. But everyone on this board would save money, and have the same care, if we went to a single payer system. (Assuming it was done right which is a whole other argument)

You're such a fucking piece of shit of a human being. Go fuck yourself.


#aclockworkshill #rightontim

Triggered.

pawz

2001400ex said:

pawz said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

I support unfucking up our health care insurance and delivery system. The last attempt did not make it better. The entrenched in DC don't really want to make it better. They do have the best healthcare in the world and we pay for it. A little class warfare there.

Obamacare did have some good things. For one, it did cut costs on Medicare and such and overall, the growth in medical and insurance costs slowed. Two, setting up exchanges on the internet to shop is something that needed to happen and wouldn't have otherwise.

You can argue other things such as the individual mandate and additional taxes and some of the regulations which added costs to Businesses, such as the annual ACA reporting requirement.

That being said, and you will disagree with this. But as long as there is a profit motive in people's health Care decisions, the system will be fucked up. The government is awful and inefficient. But everyone on this board would save money, and have the same care, if we went to a single payer system. (Assuming it was done right which is a whole other argument)

You're such a fucking piece of shit of a human being. Go fuck yourself.


#aclockworkshill #rightontim

Triggered.

Telling the truth, does not a triggered person make. Faggot.

LebamDawg

@2001400ex "But as long as there is a profit motive in people's health Care decisions, the system will be fucked up.

That statement is so fucking stoopid - if the government takes it will be more fucked - everyone associated with the system become stinking rich along with any of the lobbyists and politicians who would push something like that on us. THE GOVERNMENT IS ABSOLUTELY ROTTEN AT RUNNING ANYTHING


Name something they run that is efficient? Elections? our highway system? Hey maybe airtraffic control - but I am sure even that made people millions

CirrhosisDawg

LebamDawg said:

@2001400ex "But as long as there is a profit motive in people's health Care decisions, the system will be fucked up.

That statement is so fucking stoopid - if the government takes it will be more fucked - everyone associated with the system become stinking rich along with any of the lobbyists and politicians who would push something like that on us. THE GOVERNMENT IS ABSOLUTELY ROTTEN AT RUNNING ANYTHING


Name something they run that is efficient? Elections? our highway system? Hey maybe airtraffic control - but I am sure even that made people millions

You can’t. One-third of the federal government is shut down. Who even notices? Shut the whole sit show down!

2001400ex

LebamDawg said:

@2001400ex "But as long as there is a profit motive in people's health Care decisions, the system will be fucked up.

That statement is so fucking stoopid - if the government takes it will be more fucked - everyone associated with the system become stinking rich along with any of the lobbyists and politicians who would push something like that on us. THE GOVERNMENT IS ABSOLUTELY ROTTEN AT RUNNING ANYTHING


Name something they run that is efficient? Elections? our highway system? Hey maybe airtraffic control - but I am sure even that made people millions

You deleted the words right after that quote where I said that the government was awful and inefficient. I'm glad that you agree, Otherwise nice rant.

pawz

2001400ex said:

LebamDawg said:

@2001400ex "But as long as there is a profit motive in people's health Care decisions, the system will be fucked up.

That statement is so fucking stoopid - if the government takes it will be more fucked - everyone associated with the system become stinking rich along with any of the lobbyists and politicians who would push something like that on us. THE GOVERNMENT IS ABSOLUTELY ROTTEN AT RUNNING ANYTHING


Name something they run that is efficient? Elections? our highway system? Hey maybe airtraffic control - but I am sure even that made people millions

You deleted the words right after that quote where I said that the government was awful and inefficient. I'm glad that you agree, Otherwise nice rant.

Fuck off.