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insinceredawg
insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
How will Gay Bob respond to this? I heard he hates lying Kunts.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/politics/trump-mexico-pay-wall/index.html

President Donald Trump claimed Thursday that his oft-made 2016 campaign promise that he would build a wall and Mexico would pay for it didn't mean it would be a direct payment, despite outlining just that scenario during his campaign.

"When during the campaign, I would say 'Mexico is going to pay for it,' obviously, I never said this, and I never meant they're gonna write out a check, I said they're going to pay for it. They are," he said as he prepared to depart the White House for the southern border.

But in April 2016, Trump's campaign outlined the steps he would take to compel Mexico to pay the US "$5-10 billion" to fund a border wall -- a plan that relies largely on threatening to bar undocumented Mexican immigrants in the United States from wiring money to relatives in Mexico.

"It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," the memo said.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    But in April 2016, Trump's campaign outlined the steps he would take to compel Mexico to pay the US "$5-10 billion" to fund a border wall -- a plan that relies largely on threatening to bar undocumented Mexican immigrants in the United States from wiring money to relatives in Mexico.

    "It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," the memo said.


    Let's build it

    Win either way
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Guess who is getting worried about missing a paycheck?
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Guess who is getting worried about missing a paycheck?

    Doing just fine. Are you still getting your food stamps during the shutdown?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Food stamp program is a 100% total failure, ripe with Fraud and should be eliminated completely. Immediately.

    Also,

    We are a rich Country and none of our citizens should ever go hungry. Although I do acknowledge some still choose to.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited January 2019
    We should be taxing the heck out of the money that leaves the country. Put in a 50% tax for money sent outside the US, unless its for purchasing actual goods in return.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    We should be taxing the heck out of the money that leaves the country. Put in a 50% tax for money sent outside the US, unless its for purchasing actual goods in return.

    There's my free market conservative.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    How will Gay Bob respond to this? I heard he hates lying Kunts.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/politics/trump-mexico-pay-wall/index.html

    President Donald Trump claimed Thursday that his oft-made 2016 campaign promise that he would build a wall and Mexico would pay for it didn't mean it would be a direct payment, despite outlining just that scenario during his campaign.

    "When during the campaign, I would say 'Mexico is going to pay for it,' obviously, I never said this, and I never meant they're gonna write out a check, I said they're going to pay for it. They are," he said as he prepared to depart the White House for the southern border.

    But in April 2016, Trump's campaign outlined the steps he would take to compel Mexico to pay the US "$5-10 billion" to fund a border wall -- a plan that relies largely on threatening to bar undocumented Mexican immigrants in the United States from wiring money to relatives in Mexico.

    "It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," the memo said.

    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.
    I'm just curious how someone who complains about liars every day never makes a peep about his president lying to him on a daily basis.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.


    If there's such a crisis at the border like [Trump] claims (with no facts or data to back it up)
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    So trump said Mexico would either pay up front or lose 24 billion to pay for the wall

    What has changed?

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    How will Gay Bob respond to this? I heard he hates lying Kunts.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/politics/trump-mexico-pay-wall/index.html

    President Donald Trump claimed Thursday that his oft-made 2016 campaign promise that he would build a wall and Mexico would pay for it didn't mean it would be a direct payment, despite outlining just that scenario during his campaign.

    "When during the campaign, I would say 'Mexico is going to pay for it,' obviously, I never said this, and I never meant they're gonna write out a check, I said they're going to pay for it. They are," he said as he prepared to depart the White House for the southern border.

    But in April 2016, Trump's campaign outlined the steps he would take to compel Mexico to pay the US "$5-10 billion" to fund a border wall -- a plan that relies largely on threatening to bar undocumented Mexican immigrants in the United States from wiring money to relatives in Mexico.

    "It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," the memo said.

    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.
    I'm just curious how someone who complains about liars every day never makes a peep about his president lying to him on a daily basis.
    But you lie all the fucking time Kunt. I can't do anything about Trump lying. But you can stop yourself from lying and yet you still continue to do it.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited January 2019

    2001400ex said:

    We should be taxing the heck out of the money that leaves the country. Put in a 50% tax for money sent outside the US, unless its for purchasing actual goods in return.

    There's my free market conservative.
    Please explain what this has to do with the free market?
    I guess Hondo believes that there are no taxes in a free market.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.


    If there's such a crisis at the border like [Trump] claims (with no facts or data to back it up)

    Deflection as usual. So you admit it, you only care when the other side lies. You're totally fine with Trump and the rest of the GOP lies their asses off to the American people.

    And I stand by my statement, Trump doesn't use facts or real data to defend the need for a wall.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    So trump said Mexico would either pay up front or lose 24 billion to pay for the wall

    What has changed?

    Trump said Mexico would make a $5-10B one time payment to fund the wall. That was a lie. Reading is hard.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    It was never a question that we need a wall before Trump. We have a working wall in San Diego

    The only lies come from the TDS crowd
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Walls don't work

    How do you keep a straight face on that one?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited January 2019

    SFGbob said:

    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.


    If there's such a crisis at the border like [Trump] claims (with no facts or data to back it up)

    Deflection as usual. So you admit it, you only care when the other side lies. You're totally fine with Trump and the rest of the GOP lies their asses off to the American people.

    And I stand by my statement, Trump doesn't use facts or real data to defend the need for a wall.
    I didn't say that at all and you've left out all context of my statement. Using your standard, you're a fucking liar Kunt. And Trump did use some real facts and real data in his speech the other night so you fucking lied again.

    Here you are complaining about Trump lying while you continue to lie your ass off.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.


    If there's such a crisis at the border like [Trump] claims (with no facts or data to back it up)

    Deflection as usual. So you admit it, you only care when the other side lies. You're totally fine with Trump and the rest of the GOP lies their asses off to the American people.

    And I stand by my statement, Trump doesn't use facts or real data to defend the need for a wall.
    I didn't say that at all and you've left out all context of my statement. Using your standard, you're a fucking liar Kunt. And Trump did use some real facts and real data in his speech the other night so you fucking lied again.

    Here you are complaining about Trump lying while you continue to lie your ass off.
    I'm sure you corrected Trump here too.

  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.


    If there's such a crisis at the border like [Trump] claims (with no facts or data to back it up)

    Deflection as usual. So you admit it, you only care when the other side lies. You're totally fine with Trump and the rest of the GOP lies their asses off to the American people.

    And I stand by my statement, Trump doesn't use facts or real data to defend the need for a wall.
    I didn't say that at all and you've left out all context of my statement. Using your standard, you're a fucking liar Kunt. And Trump did use some real facts and real data in his speech the other night so you fucking lied again.

    Here you are complaining about Trump lying while you continue to lie your ass off.
    His "facts" were misconstrued, out of context, or straight up lies. A bookie actually lost a ton of money by offering bets for how many lies Trump would tell during his speech.
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/president-trumps-truthiness-makes-history-as-betting-site-pays-out-bigly-2019-01-09

    Anyways, even if I did lie, why do you hold random internet posters to a higher standard than your president? You throw a bitch fit on here every single day about people lying but you eat up all the bullshit that Trump dishes out with a smile on your face. Fuck off Gay Bob, you're nothing but a lying, lightweight, strawman ass fucking Kunt.
  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,485

    So trump said Mexico would either pay up front or lose 24 billion to pay for the wall

    What has changed?

    Trump said Mexico would make a $5-10B one time payment to fund the wall. That was a lie. Reading is hard.
    Get this ... he said right after he climbed off Stormy. Trump 2020 Bitch!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.


    If there's such a crisis at the border like [Trump] claims (with no facts or data to back it up)

    Deflection as usual. So you admit it, you only care when the other side lies. You're totally fine with Trump and the rest of the GOP lies their asses off to the American people.

    And I stand by my statement, Trump doesn't use facts or real data to defend the need for a wall.
    I didn't say that at all and you've left out all context of my statement. Using your standard, you're a fucking liar Kunt. And Trump did use some real facts and real data in his speech the other night so you fucking lied again.

    Here you are complaining about Trump lying while you continue to lie your ass off.
    I'm sure you corrected Trump here too.

    I've never claimed that I correct each one of Trump's lies. Another lie by you Hondo.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm just curious how someone who complains about Trump lying is such a liar themselves.


    If there's such a crisis at the border like [Trump] claims (with no facts or data to back it up)

    Deflection as usual. So you admit it, you only care when the other side lies. You're totally fine with Trump and the rest of the GOP lies their asses off to the American people.

    And I stand by my statement, Trump doesn't use facts or real data to defend the need for a wall.
    I didn't say that at all and you've left out all context of my statement. Using your standard, you're a fucking liar Kunt. And Trump did use some real facts and real data in his speech the other night so you fucking lied again.

    Here you are complaining about Trump lying while you continue to lie your ass off.
    His "facts" were misconstrued, out of context, or straight up lies. A bookie actually lost a ton of money by offering bets for how many lies Trump would tell during his speech.
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/president-trumps-truthiness-makes-history-as-betting-site-pays-out-bigly-2019-01-09

    Anyways, even if I did lie, why do you hold random internet posters to a higher standard than your president? You throw a bitch fit on here every single day about people lying but you eat up all the bullshit that Trump dishes out with a smile on your face. Fuck off Gay Bob, you're nothing but a lying, lightweight, strawman ass fucking Kunt.
    I don't hold random internet posters to a higher standard than the President. And I don't "throw a bitch fit" here everyday about people lying. Two more lies by you. What bullshit by Trump do I eat up? Trump lies all the time. There's nothing I can do about it. I just find it odd that someone like yourself who complains about Trump lying, lies so often yourself.



  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    It's insane how far the left has gone off into the deep end.

    "Walls dont work" might just be the dumbest hill to die on of all time.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    It's insane how far the left has gone off into the deep end.

    "Walls dont work" might just be the dumbest hill to die on of all time.

    Or they are "immoral." If that's the case why aren't the Rats proposing that we tear down all existing physical barriers at the border?

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited January 2019
    I actually knew what he meant. I assumed it would be through trade/tarffis or other taxes. (I.e. a tax on money transfers) It would be absurd to think that the Mexican government would write a check for it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    I actually knew what he meant. I assumed it would be through trade/tarffis or other taxes. (I.e. a tax on money transfers) It would be absurd to think that the Mexican government would write a check for it.

    Of course

    Although cash looks like a better deal for them

    I just want a fucking wall even though they don't work
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    I actually knew what he meant. I assumed it would be through trade/tarffis or other taxes. (I.e. a tax on money transfers) It would be absurd to think that the Mexican government would write a check for it.

    Except that's what he implied when he said they'd make a payment towards the wall. It is absurd but this is Trump we're talking about.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I actually knew what he meant. I assumed it would be through trade/tarffis or other taxes. (I.e. a tax on money transfers) It would be absurd to think that the Mexican government would write a check for it.

    Except that's what he implied when he said they'd make a payment towards the wall. It is absurd but this is Trump we're talking about.
    I guess. I didn’t hear him say they would make payments. But I didn’t listen to him much.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    I actually knew what he meant. I assumed it would be through trade/tarffis or other taxes. (I.e. a tax on money transfers) It would be absurd to think that the Mexican government would write a check for it.

    Except that's what he implied when he said they'd make a payment towards the wall. It is absurd but this is Trump we're talking about.
    He didn't imply anything. The article you linked had a quote saying either or

    Why lie?