You don't like fact checks but scour the internet for funny tweets about Democrats. Nice work!!! Now I'm convinced.
Simple minds? Missing the point? Got it. OK!
There's DaBoner the parrot.
Says the fucktard that can't even make a coherent argument and thinks linking to Yahoo!!!!!!!!! News = a "discussion" or proves something?
HondoFS...
Actually it was an AP news article with like links to facts and stuff. But ok!
"Facts and stuff"
Lets look at a few claims of this inane stupidity...
THE FACTS: The U.S. is not experiencing "uncontrolled" illegal immigration. There are an estimated 10-30 million illegal immigrants in the US. That an estimate (not a fact). Is the phrase "U.S. is not experiencing "uncontrolled" illegal immigration" a "fact" or an "opinion" by a reporter competing with you on the IQ scale? You understand one person may look at that and think its not that bad, while another could look at that number and think its completely out of control. How is someone stupid enough to include a statement like this in a fact-check again?
As for the costs, a major academic study in 2016 by the National Academy of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine found the job impacts of immigration, when measured over at least 10 years, are very small. It found immigration — legal and illegal — is an overall benefit to long-term economic growth. I'm assuming you don't see the stupidity here. 1) There are a ton of studies that say everything...there is a study saying illegal immigration costs the US over $100 billion a year. You can argue which study to believe, but why does ANY study that included legal immigration even pertinent to the discussion? The entire discussion here is about illegal immigration.
The entire "article" is full of this shite...the only fact I see is that this moron is competing with you as far as having a speed limit IQ...
Here is the lame ass moral equivalency argument equating legal with illegal immigration as a net benefit to the economy. Take a legal immigrant from Nigeria who is a doctor and pays $100,000 in taxes with an illegal family of four with two kids in US public schools who take the earned income credit, section 8 housing, food stamps and medicare and you could end up with a “net benefit” to the US economy. A rational person would say that US immigration policy would take in the doctor and exclude welfare recipients from residency. A leftard would tell us that illegal immigration isn’t a problem. They would support open borders, a welfare policy along with full medical care that acted as an illegal immigration magnet, and sanctuary cities and states and then tell us that it’s raining while pissing on your leg.
I'd say 10-30 million is low. Some peg it at 20 - 40 million. That's not immigration it's an invasion! I think that might make it a crisis. 200 billion a year is a lot of coin. Not counting the billions taken from our economy being sent back to Messico,
Here is the lame ass moral equivalency argument equating legal with illegal immigration as a net benefit to the economy. Take a legal immigrant from Nigeria who is a doctor and pays $100,000 in taxes with an illegal family of four with two kids in US public schools who take the earned income credit, section 8 housing, food stamps and medicare and you could end up with a “net benefit” to the US economy. A rational person would say that US immigration policy would take in the doctor and exclude welfare recipients from residency. A leftard would tell us that illegal immigration isn’t a problem. They would support open borders, a welfare policy along with full medical care that acted as an illegal immigration magnet, and sanctuary cities and states and then tell us that it’s raining while pissing on your leg.
“The government’s statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population,”
That's by conviction. Some simple, actual facts that make that HondoFS. 1) More than half of all violent crimes are never reported, and of those, 2) less than half of violent crimes reported are cleared. So you are talking about a subset of less than 1/4 of actual violent crimes that occur to draw a conclusion about a subset of population that is very different from the overall population.
“The government’s statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population,”
That's by conviction. Some simple, actual facts that make that HondoFS. 1) More than half of all violent crimes are never reported, and of those, 2) less than half of violent crimes reported are cleared. So you are talking about a subset of less than 1/4 of actual violent crimes that occur to draw a conclusion about a subset of population that is very different from the overall population.
HondoFS...
Also, if you have cities like LA and SF and NYC that don't inquire into the immigration status of the people they arrest for violent crimes how would you know illegals commit less violent crime?
Btw, this has always struck me as an odd argument. Even if the stat was accurate, so what? Does that mean we should enforce our immigration laws? Should we deport violent citizens and import more of these non-violent illegals? What exactly is the fucking point? One violent crime committed by an illegal is a violent crime that never should have happened in the first place.
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That being said, here's an article that discussea the cost. There's also taxes that are paid by illegals your $100 billion doesn't take into account.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna950981
Point is, Trump is lying and exaggerating about illegal immigration (you even admit to it as you cite $100 billion and Trump says $200 billion).
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c356ed3e4b0dbd06601649c
CBS called Trump a liar for saying a third of the women get raped. CBS says it closer to 80 %
Good job
That's the fucking point
You stupid fuck
“The government’s statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population,”
That's by conviction. Some simple, actual facts that make that HondoFS. 1) More than half of all violent crimes are never reported, and of those, 2) less than half of violent crimes reported are cleared. So you are talking about a subset of less than 1/4 of actual violent crimes that occur to draw a conclusion about a subset of population that is very different from the overall population.
HondoFS...
Btw, this has always struck me as an odd argument. Even if the stat was accurate, so what? Does that mean we should enforce our immigration laws? Should we deport violent citizens and import more of these non-violent illegals? What exactly is the fucking point? One violent crime committed by an illegal is a violent crime that never should have happened in the first place.