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OFFICIAL Trump border wall speech thread

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,237

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)


    If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.

    If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.

    Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?
    I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?

    Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
    Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
    Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:


    “The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
    False.

    Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.

    At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.

    “I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.

    — Linda Qiu



    “Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”

    This is misleading.

    In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.

    The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.

    — Linda Qiu


    I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.

    Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data.

  • Blu82Blu82 Member Posts: 1,574
    After reading this thread, I suspect it is appropriate to expand the Blu82 list of stipulations. Unfortunately, dumb fucks will be dumb fucks.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)


    If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.

    If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.

    Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?
    I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?

    Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
    Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
    Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:


    “The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
    False.

    Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.

    At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.

    “I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.

    — Linda Qiu



    “Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”

    This is misleading.

    In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.

    The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.

    — Linda Qiu


    I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.

    Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data.

    Where's have I ever seen gay Bob defend Trump's lies? Never seen it. Have you insincere? Race have you seen it?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,237
    Blu82 said:

    After reading this thread, I suspect it is appropriate to expand the Blu82 list of stipulations. Unfortunately, dumb fucks will be dumb fucks.

    Well we now know that because Trump referred to the "Customs and Border Protection" agency as the "Border Patrol" and because they only encounter 1,700 illegal immigrants a day who are trying to enter the country and Trump said "thousands" that Trump is obviously a liar.

    This is just pathetic, but you're right, we're dealing with bottom of the barrel dipshits here.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,237
    edited January 2019
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)


    If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.

    If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.

    Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?
    I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?

    Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
    Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
    Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:


    “The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
    False.

    Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.

    At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.

    “I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.

    — Linda Qiu



    “Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”

    This is misleading.

    In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.

    The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.

    — Linda Qiu


    I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.

    Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data.

    Where's have I ever seen gay Bob defend Trump's lies? Never seen it. Have you insincere? Race have you seen it?
    You got me Hondo. Trump said "thousands" and the actually number is only 1700. What a dirty liar that guy is.

    Btw, the 1700 number is only because they don't count people who are seeking asylum but are turned away at the border as illegals.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)


    If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.

    If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.

    Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?
    I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?

    Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
    Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
    Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:


    “The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
    False.

    Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.

    At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.

    “I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.

    — Linda Qiu



    “Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”

    This is misleading.

    In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.

    The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.

    — Linda Qiu


    I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.

    Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data.

    Where's have I ever seen gay Bob defend Trump's lies? Never seen it. Have you insincere? Race have you seen it?
    You got me Hondo. Trump said "thousands" and the actually number is only 1700. What a dirty liar that guy is.

    If I could only find one example of you defending Trump.
  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)


    If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.

    If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.

    Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?
    I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?

    Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
    Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
    Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:


    “The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
    False.

    Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.

    At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.

    “I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.

    — Linda Qiu



    “Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”

    This is misleading.

    In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.

    The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.

    — Linda Qiu


    I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.

    Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data.

    Where's have I ever seen gay Bob defend Trump's lies? Never seen it. Have you insincere? Race have you seen it?
    Gay Bob is the most pathetic of all the Trump dicksuckers. Denies he's a blind Trump supporter but at every opportunity he's getting on his knees and taking in 3 full inches of orange cock. Fuck off faggot.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,237
    I just called him a dirty liar Hondo.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,237
    Oh whatever do you mean? I'm outraged that Trump said "thousands" of illegals when the actually number is only 1,700. Good day of work for you Kunt.

    Meanwhile I'm trying to wrap my head around how someone who is such a stickler for precise language and 100% factual accuracy could say Trump cited no data or facts and that I'm a Trump dick sucker? I've never even met the man. Surely someone who has such a fetish for complete 100% accuracy wouldn't be making such blatantly false statements would they?
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    Just so I’m clear. When the number reaches 2000/day, then the Democrats will be for a wall?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,237
    USMChawk said:

    Just so I’m clear. When the number reaches 2000/day, then the Democrats will be for a wall?

    Since that 1700 number is an average certainly there are some days where that number is in the "thousands" but on average it's only 1,700 if you don't count any of the rejected people who try and enter legally, obviously Trump is a dirty liar.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    That 1700/day was just for November. In FY 2018 there were 395,579 apprehensions (1084/day) which was a 21% increase over FY 2017. But, and this is the important part, it’s not 2000/day....

    Liberal logic.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-apprehensions-have-jumped-in-2018-u-s
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,237
    edited January 2019
    USMChawk said:

    That 1700/day was just for November. In FY 2018 there were 395,579 apprehensions (1084/day) which was a 21% increase over FY 2017. But, and this is the important part, it’s not 2000/day....

    Liberal logic.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-apprehensions-have-jumped-in-2018-u-s

    If you want some fun read that link from the NYTimes where they "fact" check Trump. They cite another one of Trump's statements as "misleading" when he said that Mexico is huge source of our illegal opiates. That statement is a statement of fact. But because a border wall wouldn't do much if anything to deter that, something Trump never claimed, it's "misleading" because most of these opiates come across a legal points of entry.

    Funny how this standard for precise language never existed under Obama.
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,716 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)


    If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.

    If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.

    Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?
    I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?

    Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
    Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
    The newyork times did a pretty crappy job of this - two were determined to be false, most needed context - as did the rebuttal. You blindly listen to that crap and are just as bad as anyone who blindly follows the trumpster. You should relax a little but at this point I will be happy to see you go totally unhinged when he gets reelected. HondoFS and you - oh to hell with it.
  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Trump couldn't strike a deal for the wall when the GOP controlled the house. Why the hell does he think he can get it done now? This is all a political ploy to appease his racist base.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,237

    Trump couldn't strike a deal for the wall when the GOP controlled the house. Why the hell does he think he can get it done now? This is all a political ploy to appease his racist base.

    Still needed 60 votes in the Senate. Using your standard you just lied.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,975



    Give him the wall and everything he wants. No compromise.
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