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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,872 Founders Club
    @Rubberfist getting pummeled in this thread
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  • Rubberfist
    Rubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    SFGbob said:

    My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?

    Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204
    Yeah, it's easy to see that the people aren't as smartz as you. The "point" of the Republican proposal had nothing to do with entitlement reform and deficit control it was all about handing money to the financial services. Weird the way Wall Street gave so much money to Obama and Hillary. Didn't they know the Republican were prepared to hand them all of that cash?

    Btw, exactly how much exactly does the "financial services industry" make off of simple index funds?
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,605 Founders Club
    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?

    Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
    There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.

    Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,872 Founders Club
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?

    Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
    There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.

    Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
    I'm hearing that Trump attracts the uneducated
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204
    RaceBannon said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?

    Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
    There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.

    Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
    I'm hearing that Trump attracts the uneducated
    You probably heard that listening to talk radio.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,720 Standard Supporter
    greenblood said:

    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Trump painted himself in a corner. Dems would have won either way. Had the government shutdown there would be no military funding, which is much more important to Trump than the wall. Military spending is one of the major things I disagree with him on. I think we need to slash entitlements significantly while at the same time decrease military spending. I would have quite frankly been happy with a shutdown.

    Agree on military. More on cutting wasteful spending. Go through the departments. But where do your want to cut in entitlements? Curious your thoughts, putting it into dollars.
    Entitlements in my mind is collecting benefits without contribution. Unless you are on SSI, you should be forced to work for the government to receive your handout. That could be cleaning up trash for the campgrounds, cleaning beaches, sweeping sidewalks, cleaning highway debris, building and maintaining hiking trails, etc. We pay higher wages and benefits to a limited workforce that can't do any of this efficiently. If you don't, you get nothing, not even food stamps.
    They do that in Europe. At least they used to.
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  • Rubberfist
    Rubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    RaceBannon said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?

    Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
    There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.

    Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
    I'm hearing that Trump attracts the uneducated
    You are catching on

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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Rubberfist said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?

    Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
    There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.

    Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
    I'm hearing that Trump attracts the uneducated
    You are catching on

    Hi Bob! Hi sledog!
    MAGA!
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,872 Founders Club
    Rubberfist said:

    RaceBannon said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?

    Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
    There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.

    Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
    I'm hearing that Trump attracts the uneducated
    You are catching on

    You're not
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