Shocking turn of events
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Paying into a program doesn't mean it's not an entitlement program.
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Run on that platform, see how many votes you'd get.SFGbob said:
I'd completely eliminate all welfare programs and would phase out both Social Security and Medicare over a certain period of time allowing future beneficiaries to opt out of both systems and enter into programs that encourage tax free medical savings and retirement accounts.2001400ex said:
I'll pose the same question to you. What entitlements programs would you cut from? Quantify how much you'd be able to cut.SFGbob said:greenblood said:Trump painted himself in a corner. Dems would have won either way. Had the government shutdown there would be no military funding, which is much more important to Trump than the wall. Military spending is one of the major things I disagree with him on. I think we need to slash entitlements significantly while at the same time decrease military spending. I would have quite frankly been happy with a shutdown.
Pure crap. Where the fuck do you guys get your information? The Defense Department was funded by a defense spending bill passed in September. They military wouldn't be affected at all by a government shut down. And even if they hadn't been funded by the bill in September the military are all considered to be essential employees and are thus exempt from any government shut down.
Btw, your definition of what constitutes an entitlement program is also crap. Social Security and Medicare are both entitlement programs. Words have meanings boys, you should actually try and learn the definition of them before using them. Otherwise you end up like those dipshits Hondo and CD with your own personal Kunt definition of words. -
You asked me what I would do Kunt I answered it. I realize that kind of behavior is foreign to you. The fact that most people want to suck on the government teat and not be self-sufficient is hardly a compelling argument for why we should continue with an entitlement program but you're a stupid Kunt and that's about as good as you can do. Eventually our debt will get so large that we will no longer be able to maintain these programs and teat suckers like you will be fucked. My position at least allows from the industrious to fend for themselves.
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The debt isn't growing because of SS or Medicare. And food stamps are only about $70 billion a year. Or less than what we added to the military this year. As usual, you are ignorant.SFGbob said:You asked me what I would do Kunt I answered it. I realize that kind of behavior is foreign to you. The fact that most people want to suck on the government teat and not be self-sufficient is hardly a compelling argument for why we should continue with an entitlement program but you're a stupid Kunt and that's about as good as you can do. Eventually our debt will get so large that we will no longer be able to maintain these programs and teat suckers like you will be fucked. My position at least allows from the industrious to fend for themselves.
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The debt isn't growing because of SS or Medicare.
Another Hondo head up the ass we only allow 60K legal immigrants into the country each year moment.
How badly would you like me to expose you for the fucking moron you are Hondo? -
Medicare, Social Security and Welfare spending currently represent over 50% of all Federal Spending.
in 2017 Medicare spending represented over $700 Billion in Federal spending. In 2000 it was slightly less than $220 Billion.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/248073/distribution-of-medicare-spending-by-service-type/
I love it when Hondo the fucking moron calls me ignorant. Come on now Kunt, double down on your ignorance and post some fucking gibberish that doesn't refute a word I just said.
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If you received a paycheck, you might know that SS and Medicare are fully funded from employee and employer payroll. Seriously. I do love the double post to try to show how smart you are.SFGbob said:Medicare, Social Security and Welfare spending currently represent over 50% of all Federal Spending.
in 2017 Medicare spending represented over $700 Billion in Federal spending. In 2000 it was slightly less than $220 Billion.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/248073/distribution-of-medicare-spending-by-service-type/
I love it when Hondo the fucking moron calls me ignorant. Come on now Kunt, double down on your ignorance and post some fucking gibberish that doesn't refute a word I just said. -
Sure.gif....2001400ex said:
If you received a paycheck, you might know that SS and Medicare are fully funded from employee and employer payroll. Seriously. I do love the double post to try to show how smart you are.SFGbob said:Medicare, Social Security and Welfare spending currently represent over 50% of all Federal Spending.
in 2017 Medicare spending represented over $700 Billion in Federal spending. In 2000 it was slightly less than $220 Billion.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/248073/distribution-of-medicare-spending-by-service-type/
I love it when Hondo the fucking moron calls me ignorant. Come on now Kunt, double down on your ignorance and post some fucking gibberish that doesn't refute a word I just said.
Except for the IOUs the gubmint wrote to the Social Security trust fund....totally fully funded.
Until it's not.
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Lol. This is the “I listen to a LOT of talk radio to form my opinions” answer.SFGbob said:
I'd completely eliminate all welfare programs and would phase out both Social Security and Medicare over a certain period of time allowing future beneficiaries to opt out of both systems and enter into programs that encourage tax free medical savings and retirement accounts.2001400ex said:
I'll pose the same question to you. What entitlements programs would you cut from? Quantify how much you'd be able to cut.SFGbob said:greenblood said:Trump painted himself in a corner. Dems would have won either way. Had the government shutdown there would be no military funding, which is much more important to Trump than the wall. Military spending is one of the major things I disagree with him on. I think we need to slash entitlements significantly while at the same time decrease military spending. I would have quite frankly been happy with a shutdown.
Pure crap. Where the fuck do you guys get your information? The Defense Department was funded by a defense spending bill passed in September. They military wouldn't be affected at all by a government shut down. And even if they hadn't been funded by the bill in September the military are all considered to be essential employees and are thus exempt from any government shut down.
Btw, your definition of what constitutes an entitlement program is also crap. Social Security and Medicare are both entitlement programs. Words have meanings boys, you should actually try and learn the definition of them before using them. Otherwise you end up like those dipshits Hondo and CD with your own personal Kunt definition of words.
So under your genious approach what happens when the primary breadwinner (who couldn’t qualify lif insurance) in a family with three kids dies in a brutal car accident. How’s the surviving spouse gonna pay for childcare that will likely run $3-4K per month. -
Look at Hondo the stupid Kunt think that they money paid into Medicare and Social Security aren't just part of the Federal Government's overall tax base.2001400ex said:
If you received a paycheck, you might know that SS and Medicare are fully funded from employee and employer payroll. Seriously. I do love the double post to try to show how smart you are.SFGbob said:Medicare, Social Security and Welfare spending currently represent over 50% of all Federal Spending.
in 2017 Medicare spending represented over $700 Billion in Federal spending. In 2000 it was slightly less than $220 Billion.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/248073/distribution-of-medicare-spending-by-service-type/
I love it when Hondo the fucking moron calls me ignorant. Come on now Kunt, double down on your ignorance and post some fucking gibberish that doesn't refute a word I just said.
Hondo is so fucking dumb he probably believes there really is a "lock box" and Social Security savings account with his name on it.
Federal expenditure on Medicare have nearly doubled in the last 10 years but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt that has no impact on our deficit or debt.
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently foreshadowed the Trustees’ latest concerns. CBO recently reported that Medicare spending will double, from last year’s $708 billion to $1.4 trillion by 2027. That growth will make Medicare the biggest driver of federal health care spending, dwarfing Medicaid, Obamacare subsidies, and outlays for the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP). Furthermore, the Trustees estimate that Medicare spending, currently at 3.7 percent of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP), will rise to 5.9 percent of GDP by 2042. In fact, a more realistic alternative scenario projects that spending to reach 6.2 percent of GDP by 2042.
With just two exceptions, the Medicare hospital program has run annual cash deficits since 2008. It is now projected to continue running these deficits until 2026.
Both Medicare and Social Security are federally funded programs that have their own tax revenue streams but they are still part of the Federal budget and are still part of overall Federal spending.
Medicare is projected to be insolvent in less than 10 years, now the fact that it won't go bankrupt because the Government will either jack up the tax rate for it or cut services doesn't mean that it isn't part Federal spending.
