Trump painted himself in a corner. Dems would have won either way. Had the government shutdown there would be no military funding, which is much more important to Trump than the wall. Military spending is one of the major things I disagree with him on. I think we need to slash entitlements significantly while at the same time decrease military spending. I would have quite frankly been happy with a shutdown.
Pure crap. Where the fuck do you guys get your information? The Defense Department was funded by a defense spending bill passed in September. They military wouldn't be affected at all by a government shut down. And even if they hadn't been funded by the bill in September the military are all considered to be essential employees and are thus exempt from any government shut down.
Btw, your definition of what constitutes an entitlement program is also crap. Social Security and Medicare are both entitlement programs. Words have meanings boys, you should actually try and learn the definition of them before using them. Otherwise you end up like those dipshits Hondo and CD with your own personal Kunt definition of words.
I'll pose the same question to you. What entitlements programs would you cut from? Quantify how much you'd be able to cut.
I'd completely eliminate all welfare programs and would phase out both Social Security and Medicare over a certain period of time allowing future beneficiaries to opt out of both systems and enter into programs that encourage tax free medical savings and retirement accounts.
Lol. This is the “I listen to a LOT of talk radio to form my opinions” answer.
So under your genious approach what happens when the primary breadwinner (who couldn’t qualify lif insurance) in a family with three kids dies in a brutal car accident. How’s the surviving spouse gonna pay for childcare that will likely run $3-4K per month.
Who doesn't qualify for life insurance? And if the person had opted out of Social Security, again it's their choice, they would still their own retirement account.
Does Social Security today cover the costs of $3 - 4K per month for childcare? Yes or no? Sounds like someone who sucks on a lot of government teat to from his opinion to me.
The Social Security survivor Benefit can be pretty good.
Yeah, a whole $1,200 a month. If that isn't spoken like someone who has lived off the government teat I don't know what is.
Hate to have a system where someone could invest all of their retirement savings and then give all of it to their wife and children at the time of their death when you can have a system where your surviving family members get $1,200 a month but only until your kids are grown. That's a smartz system!!!
Yeah, a whole $1,200 a month. If that isn't spoken like someone who has lived off the government teat I don't know what is.
Hate to have a system where someone could invest all of their retirement savings and then give all of it to their wife and children at the time of their death when you can have a system where your surviving family members get $1,200 a month but only until your kids are grown. That's a smartz system!!!
I didn’t have intimate details of the surviving spouse’s financials but I recall that the bebefit helped her. This was probably 10 years ago.
You know just because someone sees through your bullshit ideas doesn’t mean they are sucking on the gov’s teet.
Great it helped her. Now why wouldn't the system I proposed help her? My system offers the very real possibility that she could have been helped far more than the paltry sum you were touting.
For someone who claims to see through my bullshit you sure suck at trying to refute it. Although you did come up with that brutal "talk radio" response. Totally destroyed my argument.
Great it helped her. Now why wouldn't the system I proposed help her? My system offers the very real possibility that she could have been helped far more than the paltry sum you were touting.
For someone who claims to see through my bullshit you sure suck at trying to refute it. Although you did come up with that brutal "talk radio" response. Totally destroyed my argument.
How much $$ do you actually think would be in this account? Again he was a young guy and though he had a good job he wasn’t anywhere near his earning potential.
Yes, he was a young guy who was killed in a car crash that later committed suicide after you were asked why he had no life insurance and the SS family benefit can be pretty good and pay for $3-4K a month in childcare cost and help you keep your home until you found out that it was only $1,200 a month and then you just "know" that my proposal is simple because I got it from talk radio.
You’re not very good at reading comprehension. I was using two different situations one hypothetical and one real life. You’re right I didn’t know how much it was but it doesn’t change the fact that it helped my friend’s family and helps others.
And the reason that I call your idea talk radio bullshit is that I used to listen to that crap and recall that this was one of the BIG ideas on the right when Bush was in office. The idea didn’t get far because it sucks.
The reason you call it "talk radio bullshit" is you're not very bright and you're incapable of putting forth an argument that would refute what I was saying. Therefore, just call it "simple" and "talk radio bullshit" and declare victory.
Trust me, I comprehend you all too well.
The idea didn’t get far because it sucks. Brutal rebuttal, completely destroyed my argument. Shocked you didn't say that it "really, really sucked" but I guess you decided to go easy on me.
The reason you call it "talk radio bullshit" is you're not very bright and you're incapable of putting forth an argument that would refute what I was saying. Therefore, just call it "simple" and "talk radio bullshit" and declare victory.
Trust me, I comprehend you all too well.
The idea didn’t get far because it sucks. Brutal rebuttal, completely destroyed my argument. Shocked you didn't say that it "really, really sucked" but I guess you decided to go easy on me.
Uh, what exactly is your argument? So far all i’ve heard is that “potentially” this account under your plan could have more $$ than the Social Security benefit could provide.
Sweet! Potential! Nice argument. How could I ever shoot this one down?
My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?
My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?
Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
Yeah, it's easy to see that the people aren't as smartz as you. The "point" of the Republican proposal had nothing to do with entitlement reform and deficit control it was all about handing money to the financial services. Weird the way Wall Street gave so much money to Obama and Hillary. Didn't they know the Republican were prepared to hand them all of that cash?
Btw, exactly how much exactly does the "financial services industry" make off of simple index funds?
My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?
Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.
Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?
Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.
Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?
Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.
Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
Trump painted himself in a corner. Dems would have won either way. Had the government shutdown there would be no military funding, which is much more important to Trump than the wall. Military spending is one of the major things I disagree with him on. I think we need to slash entitlements significantly while at the same time decrease military spending. I would have quite frankly been happy with a shutdown.
Agree on military. More on cutting wasteful spending. Go through the departments. But where do your want to cut in entitlements? Curious your thoughts, putting it into dollars.
Entitlements in my mind is collecting benefits without contribution. Unless you are on SSI, you should be forced to work for the government to receive your handout. That could be cleaning up trash for the campgrounds, cleaning beaches, sweeping sidewalks, cleaning highway debris, building and maintaining hiking trails, etc. We pay higher wages and benefits to a limited workforce that can't do any of this efficiently. If you don't, you get nothing, not even food stamps.
My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?
Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.
Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?
Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.
Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
My argument is that people should have a choice on whether they want to continue to be forced to contribute to the Ponzi scheme that leaves their kids a whopping $1,200 (pretty good) amount if they were to have an untimely death, or should they have an option of opting out of such a great fucking system. I would give people the option. And since you think current system is so fucking great why are you worried about anyone leaving it?
Gotcha! The whole point of Republican’s proposing your plan was to hand more $$ to the financial services industry and as someone who makes their living in that industry it would be a fucking windfall for me but it has also giving me a vantage point to see that the general public is really stupid about investing and having a safeguard in place (SS) is a good thing for when shit goes wrong.
There's the liberal patriarchy. There it is.
Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
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Back to my friend. He was in his early 30s with two young children. How much $$ do you think he could have saved in your magical account?
He worked at Amazon and had a few good earning years but not enough to pack away huge sums of $$.
Hate to have a system where someone could invest all of their retirement savings and then give all of it to their wife and children at the time of their death when you can have a system where your surviving family members get $1,200 a month but only until your kids are grown. That's a smartz system!!!
Yeah, a whole $1,200 a month. If that isn't spoken like someone who has lived off the government teat I don't know what is.
Hate to have a system where someone could invest all of their retirement savings and then give all of it to their wife and children at the time of their death when you can have a system where your surviving family members get $1,200 a month but only until your kids are grown. That's a smartz system!!!
I didn’t have intimate details of the surviving spouse’s financials but I recall that the bebefit helped her. This was probably 10 years ago.
You know just because someone sees through your bullshit ideas doesn’t mean they are sucking on the gov’s teet.
For someone who claims to see through my bullshit you sure suck at trying to refute it. Although you did come up with that brutal "talk radio" response. Totally destroyed my argument.
And the reason that I call your idea talk radio bullshit is that I used to listen to that crap and recall that this was one of the BIG ideas on the right when Bush was in office. The idea didn’t get far because it sucks.
Trust me, I comprehend you all too well.
The idea didn’t get far because it sucks. Brutal rebuttal, completely destroyed my argument. Shocked you didn't say that it "really, really sucked" but I guess you decided to go easy on me.
Sweet! Potential! Nice argument. How could I ever shoot this one down?
Btw, exactly how much exactly does the "financial services industry" make off of simple index funds?
Have to save people from themselves. Socialist man's burden.
MAGA!