Medicare for all saves $5.1 trillion, new study
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Thank you for the enlightenment. Now I understand how the Canadian system is superior.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It doesn't count if you don't die in a hospital!Blu82 said:
OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure. -
Don't forget the great healthcare in Cuba
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I mean I appreciate you're anecdotal evidence, it means fuck all but thank you for sharing.Blu82 said:
OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure. -
I like to make unsubstantiated claims about medicare for all's savings and then mock people for anecdotal evidence. That's a thing I like to do.allpurpleallgold said:
I mean I appreciate you're anecdotal evidence, it means fuck all but thank you for sharing.Blu82 said:
OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure.
Also,
https://forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/06/13/why-the-us-has-better-cancer-survival-rates-than-the-rest-of-the-world/#35b122974b67
We have better access to better care and the freedom to purchase it ourselves instead of a government panel deciding that we aren't worth the "marginal improvement in life expectancy over a population". -
but I thought Obamacare provided us with death panels? Did I hear wrong?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I like to make unsubstantiated claims about medicare for all's savings and then mock people for anecdotal evidence. That's a thing I like to do.allpurpleallgold said:
I mean I appreciate you're anecdotal evidence, it means fuck all but thank you for sharing.Blu82 said:
OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure.
Also,
https://forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/06/13/why-the-us-has-better-cancer-survival-rates-than-the-rest-of-the-world/#35b122974b67
We have better access to better care and the freedom to purchase it ourselves instead of a government panel deciding that we aren't worth the "marginal improvement in life expectancy over a population". -
Breathtakingly stupid2001400ex said:
but I thought Obamacare provided us with death panels? Did I hear wrong?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I like to make unsubstantiated claims about medicare for all's savings and then mock people for anecdotal evidence. That's a thing I like to do.allpurpleallgold said:
I mean I appreciate you're anecdotal evidence, it means fuck all but thank you for sharing.Blu82 said:
OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure.
Also,
https://forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/06/13/why-the-us-has-better-cancer-survival-rates-than-the-rest-of-the-world/#35b122974b67
We have better access to better care and the freedom to purchase it ourselves instead of a government panel deciding that we aren't worth the "marginal improvement in life expectancy over a population". -
HondoFS defending this abortion of a healthcare system like a good #clockworkshill lapdog.
LRR -
Hondo, here's another question for you to dodge. If I have brain cancer and I'm on some form of government healthcare and my only hope is experimental brain surgery will my government healthcare pay for that?2001400ex said:
but I thought Obamacare provided us with death panels? Did I hear wrong?UW_Doog_Bot said:
I like to make unsubstantiated claims about medicare for all's savings and then mock people for anecdotal evidence. That's a thing I like to do.allpurpleallgold said:
I mean I appreciate you're anecdotal evidence, it means fuck all but thank you for sharing.Blu82 said:
OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure.
Also,
https://forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/06/13/why-the-us-has-better-cancer-survival-rates-than-the-rest-of-the-world/#35b122974b67
We have better access to better care and the freedom to purchase it ourselves instead of a government panel deciding that we aren't worth the "marginal improvement in life expectancy over a population". -
El oh El. You can that defending?pawz said:HondoFS defending this abortion of a healthcare system like a good #clockworkshill lapdog.
LRR -
Going bankrupt to live an extra 3 months = great healthcare.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I like to make unsubstantiated claims about medicare for all's savings and then mock people for anecdotal evidence. That's a thing I like to do.allpurpleallgold said:
I mean I appreciate you're anecdotal evidence, it means fuck all but thank you for sharing.Blu82 said:
OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure.
Also,
https://forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/06/13/why-the-us-has-better-cancer-survival-rates-than-the-rest-of-the-world/#35b122974b67
We have better access to better care and the freedom to purchase it ourselves instead of a government panel deciding that we aren't worth the "marginal improvement in life expectancy over a population".
