Medicare for all saves $5.1 trillion, new study
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Why would we do this?
The stable genius is going to make healthcare available for everyone very cheaply - and it won't even be that hard.allpurpleallgold said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8mw1-KGCQg
I can’t wait for the mental gymnastics you guys will be doing when Trump supports it.
Imagine asking how we’re going to pay for something that costs less than what we’re already paying. But Ocasio-Cortez is the idiot that doesn’t understand basic economics and how things work in the real world. You guys are fucking clowns. -
All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure. -
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure. -
AP or Coaches poll?allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure.
Canucks still come to Seattle for healthcare too -
Really? According to what metrics?allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure.
Also, solid shift away from providing evidence about medicare for all's savings. Wouldn't want to have to do that. -
But what about Venezuela?allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure. -
It doesn't take much reading to figure out that the savings portrayed here is only one scenario in the report, and that another scenario which is not as liberal about projected savings for drug and administrative costs shows that it would cost trillions more. But please, let's just cherry pick the information that agrees with what we want to believe is true.
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OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure. -
It doesn't count if you don't die in a hospital!Blu82 said:
OK, as long as you call dying because of rationed access superior.allpurpleallgold said:
All you need to know about the American healthcare system is it still ranks below Canada.Blu82 said:All we need to do in order to make informed decisions about socialized medicine is look to our friends to the north. Specifically, to the city of Calgary. From the time period of 1985 to 2005, 2 hospitals in the city of Calgary were closed. There had been no new hospitals built or substantially expanded during that time. From 1985 to 2005 the population doubled in that city.
Do you think demand dropped that much? If so, do tell.
Also, during that time the Heart Institute in Spokane had approximately 30% of its patients coming from Canada. (I know several of the docs that owned it.) The Canadians were in Spokane for treatment because they would die waiting in line in the wonderful Canadian system.
Liberalism, find a cure. -
I prefer to think the cost will be $32 trillion. And not consider and other factors. That's the smart thing to do.BleachedAnusDawg said:It doesn't take much reading to figure out that the savings portrayed here is only one scenario in the report, and that another scenario which is not as liberal about projected savings for drug and administrative costs shows that it would cost trillions more. But please, let's just cherry pick the information that agrees with what we want to believe is true.
