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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited December 2018
    You know what the prospects of $15/hr gets you?

    It gets you 8 self order kiosks at McDonalds across the street from Disneyland.

    I’ve got to admit, I had a much better overall experience.

    This chick is as dumb as Trump, and I’m trying to be nice.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    He didn’t say people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines.

    He said the replacement machines were implemented because it was a better business decision than paying $15 workers.

    I believe that falls into the ignorant part of the conversation.

    Although I'm more bothered about why someone would eat at McDonald's across the street from Disneyland.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    2001400ex said:

    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    He didn’t say people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines.

    He said the replacement machines were implemented because it was a better business decision than paying $15 workers.

    I believe that falls into the ignorant part of the conversation.

    Although I'm more bothered about why someone would eat at McDonald's across the street from Disneyland.
    Obviously you’ve never had a sausage biscuit with egg.

    Seriously, if you eat at Disneyland get the Turkey leg. Fucking awesome.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    He didn’t say people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines.

    He said the replacement machines were implemented because it was a better business decision than paying $15 workers.

    The minimum wage at that McDonald’s is not $15 an hour.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    He didn’t say people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines.

    He said the replacement machines were implemented because it was a better business decision than paying $15 workers.

    I believe that falls into the ignorant part of the conversation.

    Although I'm more bothered about why someone would eat at McDonald's across the street from Disneyland.
    Obviously you’ve never had a sausage biscuit with egg.

    Seriously, if you eat at Disneyland get the Turkey leg. Fucking awesome.
    I like the big ass cookie with ice cream. Also, the McDs fries they serve inside are the shit. Way better than in the actual restaurant.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    I said the prospects of $15/hr. That will be the wage in 2022. Weird how businesses plan ahead...

    How many remedial $15/hr jobs can be done by machines? 90%? The only thing minimum wage does is put people out of work. You actually hurt the people you are trying to help. This APAG is what ignorance is...
    Got any evidence of that? Remember when they said it would destroy jobs in downtown Seattle? What do you think had happened since minimum wage came in? It sure as fuck didn't actually kill jobs.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    No one smart said it would destroy jobs, but it probably did result in certain businesses hiring less or reducing hours. And no one making minimum wage got an improvement to their standard of living or purchasing power. Poor people are stupid, though, and I'm going to guess Hondo is poor. It's going to reach that level everywhere due to inflation anyways.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    No one smart said it would destroy jobs, but it probably did result in certain businesses hiring less or reducing hours. And no one making minimum wage got an improvement to their standard of living or purchasing power. Poor people are stupid, though, and I'm going to guess Hondo is poor. It's going to reach that level everywhere due to inflation anyways.

    Do you understand drivers of inflation? There's actually history to look at. I know you are a lazy millennial. But inflation didn't follow any raise in minimum wage in any appreciable way. Fuel prices have a much larger effect on inflation than minimum wage.

    Other than that, your comment is spot on.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    No one smart said it would destroy jobs, but it probably did result in certain businesses hiring less or reducing hours. And no one making minimum wage got an improvement to their standard of living or purchasing power. Poor people are stupid, though, and I'm going to guess Hondo is poor. It's going to reach that level everywhere due to inflation anyways.

    Do you understand drivers of inflation? There's actually history to look at. I know you are a lazy millennial. But inflation didn't follow any raise in minimum wage in any appreciable way. Fuel prices have a much larger effect on inflation than minimum wage.

    Other than that, your comment is spot on.
    I never said minimum wage fuels inflation. It's the other way around.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    No one smart said it would destroy jobs, but it probably did result in certain businesses hiring less or reducing hours. And no one making minimum wage got an improvement to their standard of living or purchasing power. Poor people are stupid, though, and I'm going to guess Hondo is poor. It's going to reach that level everywhere due to inflation anyways.

    Do you understand drivers of inflation? There's actually history to look at. I know you are a lazy millennial. But inflation didn't follow any raise in minimum wage in any appreciable way. Fuel prices have a much larger effect on inflation than minimum wage.

    Other than that, your comment is spot on.
    I never said minimum wage fuels inflation. It's the other way around.
    Let me get this clear. You are saying inflation raises minimum wage?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,136 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    He didn’t say people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines.

    He said the replacement machines were implemented because it was a better business decision than paying $15 workers.

    I believe that falls into the ignorant part of the conversation.

    Although I'm more bothered about why someone would eat at McDonald's across the street from Disneyland.
    Da fuq are you talking about? It's a simple business decision.

    Fuck off with your ignorant statement bullshit.

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,554 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Sledog said:


    When mockery reaches this sort of absurd threshold, it just tells me that people are afraid of her.
    She is going to probably wind up a star. Look, I think she is dumb as a bag of hammers, but so is Trump, and it's worked out fine for him. APAG nailed it (lulz) I think when he said her brown skin, telegenic looks and demographics shifts over the next decade would propel her. I don't want to see her in power, but I bet it happens. I will most likely hate her unless she moderates, but who knows? I do like her ass right now.
    Agree with all except Trump isnt dumb as a bag of hammers. He has a massive ego and integrity problem but he ain't dumb.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Didn't watch but the argument over a 15 dollar minimum wage is stupid. The difference between 10 and 15 dollars is couch change in the scheme of things. We start at 25 in construction. We wouldn't make any more paying 15 because shitty employees cost you money doing things wrong the first time

    If you want higher wages get on the build the wall train. Illegal labor is cheap labor and hurts all hard working Americans

    And leave Cortez the Killer alone

    There are multiple anti establishment people and she is one of them.

    Is Mexico paying for the build-the-wall train?
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,323 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    I said the prospects of $15/hr. That will be the wage in 2022. Weird how businesses plan ahead...

    How many remedial $15/hr jobs can be done by machines? 90%? The only thing minimum wage does is put people out of work. You actually hurt the people you are trying to help. This APAG is what ignorance is...
    Got any evidence of that? Remember when they said it would destroy jobs in downtown Seattle? What do you think had happened since minimum wage came in? It sure as fuck didn't actually kill jobs.
    What kind of jobs are you talking about? I can assure you that it's harmed the lower-wage earners. Remember when the City of Seattle and its disgraced pedophile Mayor paid UW to do a study on the effects of $15/hr, UW did the study and it didn't say what the city wanted it to say and the city ended up burying it?

    https://seattletimes.com/business/uw-study-finds-seattles-minimum-wage-is-costing-jobs/

    Seattle’s minimum-wage law is boosting wages for a range of low-paid workers, but the law is causing those workers as a group to lose hours, and it’s also costing jobs, according to the latest study on the measure passed by the City Council in 2014.

    The report, by members of the University of Washington team studying the law’s impacts for the city of Seattle, is being published Monday as a working paper by a nonprofit think tank, the National Bureau of Economic Research.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,884 Standard Supporter

    Didn't watch but the argument over a 15 dollar minimum wage is stupid. The difference between 10 and 15 dollars is couch change in the scheme of things. We start at 25 in construction. We wouldn't make any more paying 15 because shitty employees cost you money doing things wrong the first time

    If you want higher wages get on the build the wall train. Illegal labor is cheap labor and hurts all hard working Americans

    And leave Cortez the Killer alone

    There are multiple anti establishment people and she is one of them.

    Is Mexico paying for the build-the-wall train?
    New tax on rich Kalifornia liberals is in the works. You have to pay!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Sledog said:


    When mockery reaches this sort of absurd threshold, it just tells me that people are afraid of her.
    Not sure about that. Afraid?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    2001400ex said:

    I can assure you that people have been replaced by machines long before a $15 minimum wage and the minimum wage at the McDonalds across the street from Disneyland isn’t $15.

    Automation is inevitable. Your argument that people shouldn’t be paid more because they’ll be replaced by machines that are replacing them anyways is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    I said the prospects of $15/hr. That will be the wage in 2022. Weird how businesses plan ahead...

    How many remedial $15/hr jobs can be done by machines? 90%? The only thing minimum wage does is put people out of work. You actually hurt the people you are trying to help. This APAG is what ignorance is...
    Got any evidence of that? Remember when they said it would destroy jobs in downtown Seattle? What do you think had happened since minimum wage came in? It sure as fuck didn't actually kill jobs.
    JFC you’re ignorant. Still don’t read I surmise...