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Emeka Egbuka, 2021 5* WR, Steilacoom (Steilacoom HS), WA (Offered 10/20/18)

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  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795

    If the pac12 cancels Washington has to leave the conference immediately

    This could end up being the tipping point that allows the few teams in the PAC who who give a shit (namely UW Oregon and USC) to bolt for greener pastures.

    The big conferences would be clamoring to expand their media markets to the west coast. There’s a reason the B1G added fucking Rutgers to their league
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,491 Founders Club

    People forgetting what the QB room looks like heading in to this season?

    This is not a valid excuse. we have 3 highly-ranked 4* QBs in our stable. If you cant get decent play out of one of those guys, the problem runs much deeper
    I've been saying this for a looooooong time. I don't know of any other school in the country at which the hit rate for Elite-11 quarterbacks is one in nine (unless one of the current guys is actually good, then it's two in nine).
    Who is the one?
    Look, I understand that the narrative around here is that Jake Browning sucks, and it's true that he was never the best quarterback in the country or won a lot of big games, but denying that he was a good college quarterback is just ignoring math, stats, facts. Particularly before his shoulder got destroyed. That he regressed beyond his sophomore season is--to me--even more evidence that the problem was the system rather than the talent in the QB room. Replaced him with a 5-star big dick gunslinger last season, with largely the same team around him, and they fell off a cliff.

    I'd call Browning a successful college quarterback. Successful enough that I'd say he lived up to 4-star billing. I think he could have been even better in an offense that made sense, too, which goes to the heart of the argument that I don't think it's necessarily true that every other quarterback in the system was total garbage. I see it more as a total waste of talent than a total lack of talent.
    I'm guided by science and as much as I would love to dispute this the Big Dick Failure Factor lends quite a bit of credence to it

    I would be enraged by Browning but almost as many times enraged at the play calling
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    People forgetting what the QB room looks like heading in to this season?

    This is not a valid excuse. we have 3 highly-ranked 4* QBs in our stable. If you cant get decent play out of one of those guys, the problem runs much deeper
    I've been saying this for a looooooong time. I don't know of any other school in the country at which the hit rate for Elite-11 quarterbacks is one in nine (unless one of the current guys is actually good, then it's two in nine).
    Who is the one?
    Look, I understand that the narrative around here is that Jake Browning sucks, and it's true that he was never the best quarterback in the country or won a lot of big games, but denying that he was a good college quarterback is just ignoring math, stats, facts. Particularly before his shoulder got destroyed. That he regressed beyond his sophomore season is--to me--even more evidence that the problem was the system rather than the talent in the QB room. Replaced him with a 5-star big dick gunslinger last season, with largely the same team around him, and they fell off a cliff.

    I'd call Browning a successful college quarterback. Successful enough that I'd say he lived up to 4-star billing. I think he could have been even better in an offense that made sense, too, which goes to the heart of the argument that I don't think it's necessarily true that every other quarterback in the system was total garbage. I see it more as a total waste of talent than a total lack of talent.
    I was being sarkastic but good points.

    I do think fans underestimate the number of highly rated qb busts. In the first 15 years of the Elite 11 only 52 were drafted or about 3.5 per year. By my rough count 21 became NFL starters. Effective NFL starters? Stafford, Luck, Winston, Goff, Watson, Bridgewater? Allen?

    That is just looking at the finalists. Many of UW’s four star qb busts didn’t make the finals.

    Lindquist, KJCS, Eason, Garbers, Montana, Locker, Paus is the list.

    Something else interesting is the number of transfers in recent years:

    2008: 5/12
    2009: 8/12
    2010: 7/12 plus one went baseball.
    2011: 6/11
    2012: 7/11
    2013: 4/11
    2014: 9/11
    2015: 8/11