Hondo do you believe Liz Warren is Native American?
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Where do you get that from what I said?Ice_Holmvik said:
95% of americans would be native under your guidelnes.2001400ex said:
She'd be part native American. Here's some information for you. Some tribes don't require blood quantum. Some require a certain percentage. Some require you to be a descendant of a certain family.SFGbob said:
Let's say she is 1/64 Native American. Does a "practical person" still say they don't know or do they say she is native American?2001400ex said:
None of us have enough information to answer the question. Her test said anywhere from 1/64 to 1/1024 native American. A conservative shill says she's not. A liberal shill says she is. A practical person says I don't know. So the tie breaker is she isn't enrolled.greenblood said:
You didn't answer the question2001400ex said:She is not an enrolled tribal member and therefore shouldn't use native American on her resume.
Your turn. Do you think Trump is a compulsive liar?
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What have I been telling you Hondo? Stupid people make for very bad liars.2001400ex said:
I have stated I do know. Very clearly. You are too dumb to understand. Reread this thread.SFGbob said:
I love how he is now trying to stake out a “moderate” position by claiming that partisans on the right will now say no, she isn’t an Indian, while on the left they will say yes, she is an Indian, while the nonpartisan Hondo will say, we just don’t know.HoustonHusky said:9 pages (7 on the previous thread and 2 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
You can't make this shit up...
HondoFS...
He attempts to use his cowardice as a badge of honor while engaging in 9 pages of defense of Warren because he just doesn’t know.
And the bullshit about the tribes and DNA, classic Hondo dipshitery.
At best Warren is 1.5% Native American, but Hondo just can’t say if she really is or is not an Indian.
None of us have enough information to answer the question.
And yes, I'm fully aware of the head up the ass, Hondo Kunt logic personal standard, that declares someone to be an Indian if they are enrolled in a tribe. You could have zero Indian DNA but if you're "enrolled in a tribe" you qualify for the Hondo you are an Indian certification. -
Hey if Warren could find a "tribe" that would recognize a 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Colombian, or Peruvian and she were to enroll in that tribe Hondo could then clearly state that, yes, she is an Indian. But without that, he just can't say. But he stated clearly that he does know the answer to the question.HoustonHusky said:
Ahhh...the guy defending and lying his ass off about Pocahontas and Trump is a little sensitive. Keep defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Colombian, or Peruvian.2001400ex said:
Liar. You don't read well either.HoustonHusky said:9 pages (7 on the previous thread and 2 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
You can't make this shit up...
HondoFS...
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We don't know the answer to that question and I stated why very clearly in a previous post. We don't know her lineage. Here is an example.SFGbob said:
What have I been telling you Hondo? Stupid people make for very bad liars.2001400ex said:
I have stated I do know. Very clearly. You are too dumb to understand. Reread this thread.SFGbob said:
I love how he is now trying to stake out a “moderate” position by claiming that partisans on the right will now say no, she isn’t an Indian, while on the left they will say yes, she is an Indian, while the nonpartisan Hondo will say, we just don’t know.HoustonHusky said:9 pages (7 on the previous thread and 2 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
You can't make this shit up...
HondoFS...
He attempts to use his cowardice as a badge of honor while engaging in 9 pages of defense of Warren because he just doesn’t know.
And the bullshit about the tribes and DNA, classic Hondo dipshitery.
At best Warren is 1.5% Native American, but Hondo just can’t say if she really is or is not an Indian.
None of us have enough information to answer the question.
And yes, I'm fully aware of the head up the ass, Hondo Kunt logic personal standard, that declares someone to be an Indian if they are enrolled in a tribe. You could have zero Indian DNA but if you're "enrolled in a tribe" you qualify for the Hondo you are an Indian certification.
http://webtest2.cherokee.org/Services/Tribal-Citizenship/Genealogy-Information
And yes if you are an enrolled tribal member, you are native American. As I've already stated. Trump was fucktarded for calling for a DNA test (should have asked for genealogy). Warren was fucktarded for saying she's native based on a DNA test.
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Got it, zero Native American DNA but if you're an enrolled tribal member that makes you an Indian. Conversely, you could be 100% Native American but if you're not an enrolled tribal member, you're not an Indian using Hondo's personal Kunt standard.
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That's not my personal standard, that's facts in America. When in relation to enrollment in college and other benefits that you were discussing. I wish @Swaye were here to chime in.SFGbob said:Got it, zero Native American DNA but if you're an enrolled tribal member that makes you an Indian. Conversely, you could be 100% Native American but if you're not an enrolled tribal member, you're not an Indian using Hondo's personal Kunt standard.
The best part is. Your intense desire to argue with me and show I'm wrong. Not only makes you look ignorant. You are also blind to the fact I'm actually agreeing with you about Warren. -
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Somehow I feel that this irish dude calling himself Beto is even lamer
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Oh I’ve already shown you are wrong Hondo, now I’m just establishing how dishonest and stupid you are.2001400ex said:
That's not my personal standard, that's facts in America. When in relation to enrollment in college and other benefits that you were discussing. I wish @Swaye were here to chime in.SFGbob said:Got it, zero Native American DNA but if you're an enrolled tribal member that makes you an Indian. Conversely, you could be 100% Native American but if you're not an enrolled tribal member, you're not an Indian using Hondo's personal Kunt standard.
The best part is. Your intense desire to argue with me and show I'm wrong. Not only makes you look ignorant. You are also blind to the fact I'm actually agreeing with you about Warren. -
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10 pages (7 on the previous thread and now 3 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
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You don't read well.HoustonHusky said:10 pages (7 on the previous thread and now 3 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
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Ahhh...this is now your excuse of why you are defending the indefensible and lying your @ss of in doing so? Its because everyone else can't read well?2001400ex said:
You don't read well.HoustonHusky said:10 pages (7 on the previous thread and now 3 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
You can't make this shit up...
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Don't you have more lying to do about revenues going up?HoustonHusky said:
Ahhh...this is now your excuse of why you are defending the indefensible and lying your @ss of in doing so? Its because everyone else can't read well?2001400ex said:
You don't read well.HoustonHusky said:10 pages (7 on the previous thread and now 3 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
You can't make this shit up...
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They did moron.2001400ex said:
Don't you have more lying to do about revenues going up?HoustonHusky said:
Ahhh...this is now your excuse of why you are defending the indefensible and lying your @ss of in doing so? Its because everyone else can't read well?2001400ex said:
You don't read well.HoustonHusky said:10 pages (7 on the previous thread and now 3 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
You can't make this shit up...
HondoFS...
HondoFS...
Of course, if I was trying to defend Pocahontas from taking a DNA test to prove she was 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Colombian, or Peruvian, then I would be changing the subject too.
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Yeah, that's probably the Kunt act I'd go with if my own words had exposed me as a lying dumbfuck.2001400ex said:
Can you read? I've already addressed the question.SFGbob said:
The flounder continues to flop. We aren't talking about tribes Kunt. We're talking about Liz Warren. She is the one claiming she is an Indian and I just asked you if someone who is 1.5% Native American should really be bragging about their native American roots and claiming that her parents had to elope because her grandparents where such racists against her "Indian" mother?2001400ex said:
Exactly. You still don't get it. I'll type slowly. You can't say "1.5% maybe American". It doesn't work like that. You can be zero percent blood quantum and be a tribal member eligible for benefits. And you can be 100% but not enrolled member and not eligible for benefits.SFGbob said:Who knew that something I'm not talking about, that I've never referenced and isn't the point of any of the questions I've put to you and is clearly a fucking diversion by you in order to avoid the questions you've been asked, is "lost" on me.
Again, stop being black and white.
You clearly stated that unless you're an "enrolled member" of a tribe there's no way to determine if someone is or is not and Indian.
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No. That's not what I said. That's what you read. And you forget context.SFGbob said:
Yeah, that's probably the Kunt act I'd go with if my own words had exposed me as a lying dumbfuck.2001400ex said:
Can you read? I've already addressed the question.SFGbob said:
The flounder continues to flop. We aren't talking about tribes Kunt. We're talking about Liz Warren. She is the one claiming she is an Indian and I just asked you if someone who is 1.5% Native American should really be bragging about their native American roots and claiming that her parents had to elope because her grandparents where such racists against her "Indian" mother?2001400ex said:
Exactly. You still don't get it. I'll type slowly. You can't say "1.5% maybe American". It doesn't work like that. You can be zero percent blood quantum and be a tribal member eligible for benefits. And you can be 100% but not enrolled member and not eligible for benefits.SFGbob said:Who knew that something I'm not talking about, that I've never referenced and isn't the point of any of the questions I've put to you and is clearly a fucking diversion by you in order to avoid the questions you've been asked, is "lost" on me.
Again, stop being black and white.
You clearly stated that unless you're an "enrolled member" of a tribe there's no way to determine if someone is or is not and Indian.
Boy I'd sure hate to see what it would look like if Hondo really did start to defend Warren. -
Stupid people make for very bad liars Hondo, I keep telling you this and yet you continue to think that you can lie.
In response to the question is Liz Warren an Indian Hondo responded:2001400ex said:
No. That's not what I said. That's what you read. And you forget context.SFGbob said:
Yeah, that's probably the Kunt act I'd go with if my own words had exposed me as a lying dumbfuck.2001400ex said:
Can you read? I've already addressed the question.SFGbob said:
The flounder continues to flop. We aren't talking about tribes Kunt. We're talking about Liz Warren. She is the one claiming she is an Indian and I just asked you if someone who is 1.5% Native American should really be bragging about their native American roots and claiming that her parents had to elope because her grandparents where such racists against her "Indian" mother?2001400ex said:
Exactly. You still don't get it. I'll type slowly. You can't say "1.5% maybe American". It doesn't work like that. You can be zero percent blood quantum and be a tribal member eligible for benefits. And you can be 100% but not enrolled member and not eligible for benefits.SFGbob said:Who knew that something I'm not talking about, that I've never referenced and isn't the point of any of the questions I've put to you and is clearly a fucking diversion by you in order to avoid the questions you've been asked, is "lost" on me.
Again, stop being black and white.
You clearly stated that unless you're an "enrolled member" of a tribe there's no way to determine if someone is or is not and Indian.
Boy I'd sure hate to see what it would look like if Hondo really did start to defend Warren.
She is not an enrolled tribal member and therefore shouldn't use native American on her resume.
When pressed on the fact that this response didn't really answer the question Hondo added:
None of us have enough information to answer the question. Her test said anywhere from 1/64 to 1/1024 native American. A conservative shill says she's not. A liberal shill says she is. A practical person says I don't know. So the tie breaker is she isn't enrolled. -
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For years she claimed her grandma was Native American. That would make Warren at least 1/4 (25%) to 1/8 (12.5%) NA (if Grandma was a half-breed). The trace elements of NA sperm from 6 generations ago doesn't jibe with her story at all. It was 99.9% bullshit.SFGbob said:
I love how he is now trying to stake out a “moderate” position by claiming that partisans on the right will now say no, she isn’t an Indian, while on the left they will say yes, she is an Indian, while the nonpartisan Hondo will say, we just don’t know.HoustonHusky said:9 pages (7 on the previous thread and 2 on this one) of HondoFS defending Pocahantas for scientifically proving she is 0.09766% Native American, and by Native American I mean Mexican, Columbian, or Peruvian.
You can't make this shit up...
HondoFS...
He attempts to use his cowardice as a badge of honor while engaging in 9 pages of defense of Warren because he just doesn’t know.
And the bullshit about the tribes and DNA, classic Hondo dipshitery.
At best Warren is 1.5% Native American, but Hondo just can’t say if she really is or is not an Indian. -
For years she claimed her own mother was such an obvious Native American her parents had to elope on account of her racist grandparents objecting to their son marrying an Indian.
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So I'm a generation early. That means she'd be 25 to 50% Injun then. Wowza.SFGbob said:For years she claimed her own mother was such an obvious Native American her parents had to elope on account of her racist grandparents objecting to their son marrying an Indian.
