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The ZR system wasn't sustainable long term and it got hammered against teams with good D-lines. The minimal blocking stuff will win you games and put up monster numbers against bad teams. Good teams eat that shit up.dtd said:
Let's normalize for conference games? Maybe it doesn't matter. I stand by everything I said.Mosster47 said:
Aren't we leading the conference in rushing?dtd said:
Oregon rarely breaks big gainers on the ground. Maybe this'll be the week, I dunno. They've clearly raised the floor, Oregon is probably the best short yardage running team in the conference, the TFL % is way down, but they've castrated the high end of the rushing attack. There's no more bust, but there's no more boom.lawsandl said:
Do you really think the Cougs hold the Ducks to the same rushing output?dtd said:
Running 50 times a game for 4 ypc does not a powerful run game make. There is zero creativity in the Oregon offense. 3 yards and a cloud of dust works when you have an actual defense to back it up.lawsandl said:
Oregon will run over that defense. Not sure if we stop them though.dtd said:
WSU has a defense that isn't shit, is at home off a bye, and has a strength vs weakness matchup with their passing game vs our? pass D. The Pirate will pull out a few draw plays that go for big critical games as well, because fuck it, Oregon's D doesn't take anything away.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont be so suredtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
While UW has clearly played superior competition than WSU, statistically, the rush D's aren't much different. Besides, this is all about their QB sitting in a clean pocket slinging it around the field against our idiots in the back 7.
Oregon's 2 deep in the secondary is: So/Fr, Sr/Fr, So/So, and So/Fr. No fucking way we? win this game. This is why the CHOKE against Stanford is so painful. Losing to WSU is okay, they're built to beat us, it was always going to happen. But now we're fucked because the 2nd conference loss is gonna end the season.
This isn't the same strike fear into your opponents's hearts rushing attack. This is a 3 yards and a cloud of dust rushing attack
The rushing attack now can grind against anyone. -
There were long runs to be had. Everyone is still picking up this scheme.Mosster47 said:
The ZR system wasn't sustainable long term and it got hammered against teams with good D-lines. The minimal blocking stuff will win you games and put up monster numbers against bad teams. Good teams eat that shit up.dtd said:
Let's normalize for conference games? Maybe it doesn't matter. I stand by everything I said.Mosster47 said:
Aren't we leading the conference in rushing?dtd said:
Oregon rarely breaks big gainers on the ground. Maybe this'll be the week, I dunno. They've clearly raised the floor, Oregon is probably the best short yardage running team in the conference, the TFL % is way down, but they've castrated the high end of the rushing attack. There's no more bust, but there's no more boom.lawsandl said:
Do you really think the Cougs hold the Ducks to the same rushing output?dtd said:
Running 50 times a game for 4 ypc does not a powerful run game make. There is zero creativity in the Oregon offense. 3 yards and a cloud of dust works when you have an actual defense to back it up.lawsandl said:
Oregon will run over that defense. Not sure if we stop them though.dtd said:
WSU has a defense that isn't shit, is at home off a bye, and has a strength vs weakness matchup with their passing game vs our? pass D. The Pirate will pull out a few draw plays that go for big critical games as well, because fuck it, Oregon's D doesn't take anything away.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont be so suredtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
While UW has clearly played superior competition than WSU, statistically, the rush D's aren't much different. Besides, this is all about their QB sitting in a clean pocket slinging it around the field against our idiots in the back 7.
Oregon's 2 deep in the secondary is: So/Fr, Sr/Fr, So/So, and So/Fr. No fucking way we? win this game. This is why the CHOKE against Stanford is so painful. Losing to WSU is okay, they're built to beat us, it was always going to happen. But now we're fucked because the 2nd conference loss is gonna end the season.
This isn't the same strike fear into your opponents's hearts rushing attack. This is a 3 yards and a cloud of dust rushing attack
The rushing attack now can grind against anyone. -
In a vacuum I don't hate the change, but there is zero creativity. One fly sweep the entire year. One.Mosster47 said:
The ZR system wasn't sustainable long term and it got hammered against teams with good D-lines. The minimal blocking stuff will win you games and put up monster numbers against bad teams. Good teams eat that shit up.dtd said:
Let's normalize for conference games? Maybe it doesn't matter. I stand by everything I said.Mosster47 said:
Aren't we leading the conference in rushing?dtd said:
Oregon rarely breaks big gainers on the ground. Maybe this'll be the week, I dunno. They've clearly raised the floor, Oregon is probably the best short yardage running team in the conference, the TFL % is way down, but they've castrated the high end of the rushing attack. There's no more bust, but there's no more boom.lawsandl said:
Do you really think the Cougs hold the Ducks to the same rushing output?dtd said:
Running 50 times a game for 4 ypc does not a powerful run game make. There is zero creativity in the Oregon offense. 3 yards and a cloud of dust works when you have an actual defense to back it up.lawsandl said:
Oregon will run over that defense. Not sure if we stop them though.dtd said:
WSU has a defense that isn't shit, is at home off a bye, and has a strength vs weakness matchup with their passing game vs our? pass D. The Pirate will pull out a few draw plays that go for big critical games as well, because fuck it, Oregon's D doesn't take anything away.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont be so suredtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
While UW has clearly played superior competition than WSU, statistically, the rush D's aren't much different. Besides, this is all about their QB sitting in a clean pocket slinging it around the field against our idiots in the back 7.
Oregon's 2 deep in the secondary is: So/Fr, Sr/Fr, So/So, and So/Fr. No fucking way we? win this game. This is why the CHOKE against Stanford is so painful. Losing to WSU is okay, they're built to beat us, it was always going to happen. But now we're fucked because the 2nd conference loss is gonna end the season.
This isn't the same strike fear into your opponents's hearts rushing attack. This is a 3 yards and a cloud of dust rushing attack
The rushing attack now can grind against anyone. -
Oregon is two plays away from being 6-0. How much more fly sweep to Charles Nelson for negative yards did you need to see?dtd said:
In a vacuum I don't hate the change, but there is zero creativity. One fly sweep the entire year. One.Mosster47 said:
The ZR system wasn't sustainable long term and it got hammered against teams with good D-lines. The minimal blocking stuff will win you games and put up monster numbers against bad teams. Good teams eat that shit up.dtd said:
Let's normalize for conference games? Maybe it doesn't matter. I stand by everything I said.Mosster47 said:
Aren't we leading the conference in rushing?dtd said:
Oregon rarely breaks big gainers on the ground. Maybe this'll be the week, I dunno. They've clearly raised the floor, Oregon is probably the best short yardage running team in the conference, the TFL % is way down, but they've castrated the high end of the rushing attack. There's no more bust, but there's no more boom.lawsandl said:
Do you really think the Cougs hold the Ducks to the same rushing output?dtd said:
Running 50 times a game for 4 ypc does not a powerful run game make. There is zero creativity in the Oregon offense. 3 yards and a cloud of dust works when you have an actual defense to back it up.lawsandl said:
Oregon will run over that defense. Not sure if we stop them though.dtd said:
WSU has a defense that isn't shit, is at home off a bye, and has a strength vs weakness matchup with their passing game vs our? pass D. The Pirate will pull out a few draw plays that go for big critical games as well, because fuck it, Oregon's D doesn't take anything away.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont be so suredtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
While UW has clearly played superior competition than WSU, statistically, the rush D's aren't much different. Besides, this is all about their QB sitting in a clean pocket slinging it around the field against our idiots in the back 7.
Oregon's 2 deep in the secondary is: So/Fr, Sr/Fr, So/So, and So/Fr. No fucking way we? win this game. This is why the CHOKE against Stanford is so painful. Losing to WSU is okay, they're built to beat us, it was always going to happen. But now we're fucked because the 2nd conference loss is gonna end the season.
This isn't the same strike fear into your opponents's hearts rushing attack. This is a 3 yards and a cloud of dust rushing attack
The rushing attack now can grind against anyone. -
We need an upgrade at skill spots. Some of that will be experience and development.dtd said:
In a vacuum I don't hate the change, but there is zero creativity. One fly sweep the entire year. One.Mosster47 said:
The ZR system wasn't sustainable long term and it got hammered against teams with good D-lines. The minimal blocking stuff will win you games and put up monster numbers against bad teams. Good teams eat that shit up.dtd said:
Let's normalize for conference games? Maybe it doesn't matter. I stand by everything I said.Mosster47 said:
Aren't we leading the conference in rushing?dtd said:
Oregon rarely breaks big gainers on the ground. Maybe this'll be the week, I dunno. They've clearly raised the floor, Oregon is probably the best short yardage running team in the conference, the TFL % is way down, but they've castrated the high end of the rushing attack. There's no more bust, but there's no more boom.lawsandl said:
Do you really think the Cougs hold the Ducks to the same rushing output?dtd said:
Running 50 times a game for 4 ypc does not a powerful run game make. There is zero creativity in the Oregon offense. 3 yards and a cloud of dust works when you have an actual defense to back it up.lawsandl said:
Oregon will run over that defense. Not sure if we stop them though.dtd said:
WSU has a defense that isn't shit, is at home off a bye, and has a strength vs weakness matchup with their passing game vs our? pass D. The Pirate will pull out a few draw plays that go for big critical games as well, because fuck it, Oregon's D doesn't take anything away.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont be so suredtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
While UW has clearly played superior competition than WSU, statistically, the rush D's aren't much different. Besides, this is all about their QB sitting in a clean pocket slinging it around the field against our idiots in the back 7.
Oregon's 2 deep in the secondary is: So/Fr, Sr/Fr, So/So, and So/Fr. No fucking way we? win this game. This is why the CHOKE against Stanford is so painful. Losing to WSU is okay, they're built to beat us, it was always going to happen. But now we're fucked because the 2nd conference loss is gonna end the season.
This isn't the same strike fear into your opponents's hearts rushing attack. This is a 3 yards and a cloud of dust rushing attack
The rushing attack now can grind against anyone.
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You aren't a duck. GTFO.dtd said:
WSU has a defense that isn't shit, is at home off a bye, and has a strength vs weakness matchup with their passing game vs our? pass D. The Pirate will pull out a few draw plays that go for big critical gaines as well, because fuck it, Oregon's D doesn't take anything away.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont be so suredtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
UW had pass plays of 20, 30, 33 and 43 today. WTF is WSU gonna do? It won't be consensual. -
You thought Cal would smoke us. Get lost with this shit.Mosster47 said:
Gameday is there, our defensive backs are awful. It's got all the makings of a beat down.flatus said:
Oh dear. Please stop. Seriously. Just stop.Mosster47 said:
Yep, zero chance we win in Pullman.dtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
If we do win it's us and SC for the title.
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2 plays?Mosster47 said:
Oregon is two plays away from being 6-0. How much more fly sweep to Charles Nelson for negative yards did you need to see?dtd said:
In a vacuum I don't hate the change, but there is zero creativity. One fly sweep the entire year. One.Mosster47 said:
The ZR system wasn't sustainable long term and it got hammered against teams with good D-lines. The minimal blocking stuff will win you games and put up monster numbers against bad teams. Good teams eat that shit up.dtd said:
Let's normalize for conference games? Maybe it doesn't matter. I stand by everything I said.Mosster47 said:
Aren't we leading the conference in rushing?dtd said:
Oregon rarely breaks big gainers on the ground. Maybe this'll be the week, I dunno. They've clearly raised the floor, Oregon is probably the best short yardage running team in the conference, the TFL % is way down, but they've castrated the high end of the rushing attack. There's no more bust, but there's no more boom.lawsandl said:
Do you really think the Cougs hold the Ducks to the same rushing output?dtd said:
Running 50 times a game for 4 ypc does not a powerful run game make. There is zero creativity in the Oregon offense. 3 yards and a cloud of dust works when you have an actual defense to back it up.lawsandl said:
Oregon will run over that defense. Not sure if we stop them though.dtd said:
WSU has a defense that isn't shit, is at home off a bye, and has a strength vs weakness matchup with their passing game vs our? pass D. The Pirate will pull out a few draw plays that go for big critical games as well, because fuck it, Oregon's D doesn't take anything away.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont be so suredtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
While UW has clearly played superior competition than WSU, statistically, the rush D's aren't much different. Besides, this is all about their QB sitting in a clean pocket slinging it around the field against our idiots in the back 7.
Oregon's 2 deep in the secondary is: So/Fr, Sr/Fr, So/So, and So/Fr. No fucking way we? win this game. This is why the CHOKE against Stanford is so painful. Losing to WSU is okay, they're built to beat us, it was always going to happen. But now we're fucked because the 2nd conference loss is gonna end the season.
This isn't the same strike fear into your opponents's hearts rushing attack. This is a 3 yards and a cloud of dust rushing attack
The rushing attack now can grind against anyone. -
Oregon’s secondary is getting better.
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Um that's exactly what it does dumb fuck. It keeps your defense off the field and, when they have to come on, they're more rested. The ability to run without misdirection and 50 other things going on… Just lining up and running the fucking ball and being able to do it successfully even when the defense knows it's coming, is exactly the basis upon which true winning football is built.dtd said:
Running 50 times a game for 4 ypc does not a powerful run game make. There is zero creativity in the Oregon offense. 3 yards and a cloud of dust works when you have an actual defense to back it up.lawsandl said:
Oregon will run over that defense. Not sure if we stop them though.dtd said:
WSU has a defense that isn't shit, is at home off a bye, and has a strength vs weakness matchup with their passing game vs our? pass D. The Pirate will pull out a few draw plays that go for big critical games as well, because fuck it, Oregon's D doesn't take anything away.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont be so suredtd said:
Please, Ducks will lose at least one more, starting next week.DerekJohnson said:Chris Petersen and his staff mismanaged this game so poorly.
I also think you are underestimating Oregon's defense. There are definitely some weaknesses: Graham being the most pronounced. But unlike the last few years, they are able to get stops when they need them.
