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Michigan is never coming back until (if) tOSU massively fucks up (as well as Penn for that matter).
This off-season showed us tOSU has no intention of fucking up. -
The fact that they can still sell blue sky polyana forecasts is why they can still recruit. Just ask Mario and Feld about that. #takethepaccreepycoug said:
Facilities are overrated. I thought you were a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:
Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them.creepycoug said:Womp. Christ.
Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.
Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.
Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.
That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.
He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.
Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck.
My Canes could win 5 in a row with a rented stadium 45 minutes from campus if the right coach showed up.
hTh
Michigan has been filling that place forever. The fact that they keep doing it is evidence that (1) there's not a damn other thing to do in Michigan and (2) they'll never be back.
Why should they? They keep selling out, selling T-shirts and selling blue sky to DAWGs like you. -
Axe Oregon or Okie St if facilities are overrated. The two national power, renta-stadium schools both happen to be located within 60 mins of enuff talent to stock the shelves at multiple elite programs. Miami's rise as a national power in college football is a very unique story.creepycoug said:
Facilities are overrated. I thought you were a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:
Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them.creepycoug said:Womp. Christ.
Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.
Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.
Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.
That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.
He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.
Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck.
My Canes could win 5 in a row with a rented stadium 45 minutes from campus if the right coach showed up.
hTh
Michigan has been filling that place forever. The fact that they keep doing it is evidence that (1) there's not a damn other thing to do in Michigan and (2) they'll never be back.
Why should they? They keep selling out, selling T-shirts and selling blue sky to DAWGs like you.
UW would be Pitt if we had gone to the renta-stadium model. -
No!!!!!YellowSnow said:
Axe Oregon or Okie St if facilities are overrated. The two national power, renta-stadium schools both happen to be located within 60 mins of enuff talent to stock the shelves at multiple elite programs. Miami's rise as a national power in college football is a very unique story.creepycoug said:
Facilities are overrated. I thought you were a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:
Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them.creepycoug said:Womp. Christ.
Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.
Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.
Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.
That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.
He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.
Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck.
My Canes could win 5 in a row with a rented stadium 45 minutes from campus if the right coach showed up.
hTh
Michigan has been filling that place forever. The fact that they keep doing it is evidence that (1) there's not a damn other thing to do in Michigan and (2) they'll never be back.
Why should they? They keep selling out, selling T-shirts and selling blue sky to DAWGs like you.
UW would be Pitt if we had gone to the renta-stadium model.
I axe again, because you didn't answer. What's the deal with Michigan? You said they'll be fine, but I didn't axe if they were going to die.
I axed when I should ever expect to give a shit about them again. -
This is stupid. There are plenty of factions within Michigan's fanbase and donor base just like any other fanbase. Probably more factions because there is a split over what it means to be a "Michigan Man" (Bo said something about a Michigan Man should always coach Michigan.)creepycoug said:
Facilities are overrated. I thought you were a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:
Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them.creepycoug said:Womp. Christ.
Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.
Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.
Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.
That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.
He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.
Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck.
My Canes could win 5 in a row with a rented stadium 45 minutes from campus if the right coach showed up.
hTh
Michigan has been filling that place forever. The fact that they keep doing it is evidence that (1) there's not a damn other thing to do in Michigan and (2) they'll never be back.
Why should they? They keep selling out, selling T-shirts and selling blue sky to DAWGs like you.
They pushed out a national title winner who won 11 games and went to the Rose Bowl in his second to last year (Carr.)
They also pushed out the next guy who was brought in to modernize Michigan football after giving him just 3 years (Rich Rod.)
As a result of those two possible premature firings Hoke probably got a year too many.
But Harbaugh too will be on the hot seat when its deserved. Its not yet. -
#illbewaitingFremontTroll said:
This is stupid. There are plenty of factions within Michigan's fanbase and donor base just like any other fanbase. Probably more factions because there is a split over what it means to be a "Michigan Man" (Bo said something about a Michigan Man should always coach Michigan.)creepycoug said:
Facilities are overrated. I thought you were a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:
Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them.creepycoug said:Womp. Christ.
Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.
Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.
Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.
That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.
He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.
Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck.
My Canes could win 5 in a row with a rented stadium 45 minutes from campus if the right coach showed up.
hTh
Michigan has been filling that place forever. The fact that they keep doing it is evidence that (1) there's not a damn other thing to do in Michigan and (2) they'll never be back.
Why should they? They keep selling out, selling T-shirts and selling blue sky to DAWGs like you.
They pushed out a national title winner who won 11 games and went to the Rose Bowl in his second to last year (Carr.)
They also pushed out the next guy who was brought in to modernize Michigan football after giving him just 3 years (Rich Rod.)
As a result of those two possible premature firings Hoke probably got a year too many.
But Harbaugh too will be on the hot seat when its deserved. Its not yet. -
Michigan just played a nail biter with Northwestern.FremontTroll said:
True, despite Brian Kelly and Brian Kelly's best efforts.Mosster47 said:
Notre Dame might not suck.jhfstyle24 said:Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G.
At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.
Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.
They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now.
I would also point out that the Michigan defense tightened up after giving up TDs on 3 of the first 4 drives against ND. The first two drives were aided by 15 yard personal fouls and the third was twice extended by penalties on failed 3rd downs. There were a few big pass plays allowed there but for the game Notre Dame only averaged 4.4 yards per play. Only 2.8 on the ground.
I know these statistics go against the popular Michigan sucks narrative but on the season Michigan is easily leading the nation at just 3.4 yards per play allowed (UW allowing 4.2) Since going down 21-3 four drives into the season against ND they've allowed just 10 plays over 15 yards in 4.5+ games (6 pass, 4 rush.) -
People would have said the same about Penn state and Washington 6 years ago. A place like that is one right coach away from being a contender.haie said:Michigan is never coming back until (if) tOSU massively fucks up (as well as Penn for that matter).
This off-season showed us tOSU has no intention of fucking up.
I believe in the year 3 rule where if you're the right coach you can turn a respectable program around in 3 years. Harbaugh just isn't the right guy, which really surprises me given his previous success. Maybe he'll finish this year out shockingly strong. He's not getting fired right now so we'll find out. -
Yes because their offense sucked.Mosster47 said:
Michigan just played a nail biter with Northwestern.FremontTroll said:
True, despite Brian Kelly and Brian Kelly's best efforts.Mosster47 said:
Notre Dame might not suck.jhfstyle24 said:Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G.
At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.
Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.
They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now.
I would also point out that the Michigan defense tightened up after giving up TDs on 3 of the first 4 drives against ND. The first two drives were aided by 15 yard personal fouls and the third was twice extended by penalties on failed 3rd downs. There were a few big pass plays allowed there but for the game Notre Dame only averaged 4.4 yards per play. Only 2.8 on the ground.
I know these statistics go against the popular Michigan sucks narrative but on the season Michigan is easily leading the nation at just 3.4 yards per play allowed (UW allowing 4.2) Since going down 21-3 four drives into the season against ND they've allowed just 10 plays over 15 yards in 4.5+ games (6 pass, 4 rush.)
We are talking about the defense here. -
What the fuck universe are you living in? OSU, Bama, and LSU are all in the top 10 of AD revenue. FSU is top 15, and I’m sure USC would be too if they released their financials. Meanwhile no one would ever try to make the case that Miami is anywhere close to a blue blood - their success was brief and was 98% due to location. Money is and will forever be the #1 deciding factor in college football. To try to argue otherwise is mind-bogglingly stupid.creepycoug said:Womp. Christ.
Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.
Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.
Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.
That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.
He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.
Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
