Disagree w OBK on this. Cristobal is trying to establish a different identity for this team. More smash mouth, less finesse. So he’s coaching the kids to go 100% between the whistles. Sometimes shit like last night is going to happen. And our midget secondary is a weakness ready to be exploited.
Oregon could have literally handed the ball off to Standford with 15~ seconds to go in the exact same spot with zero timeouts. Instead they gave it to them in the exact same spot with 1 minute to go and a time out.
It’s not as if Oregon had played a clean game up to that point handling the ball.
You can name the one time kneeling the game out didn’t work, I’ll show you the 5 million times it did.
Herberts first down ended the game.
I'll just say it again, because the first five fucking times didn't make it into your head: If you can't hand the ball off to your running back, it doesn't really fucking matter. Oregon is not going to the college football playoff this year; anybody who thought they had even a remote chance is fucking stupid. If you're Mario, you're trying to build something there. Like the guy said prior to the game, everything he learned from Saban, and though apparently he doesn't remember, everything he learned from Jimmy Johnson, is that you play to win. Playing to win means being aggressive… Not stupid aggressive, but aggressive. Aggressive enough so that you are not playing to lose. Handing the ball off to a running back in short yardage situations, where a first down ices the game, is simply not Stupid aggressive. Yeah the kids a freshman, but that kid averaged close to 6 yards per carry on the evening.
I get it. Second-guessing is fun. A few people do it better than the creep. But this particular second guessing is FS. Yeah, I have a man crush on Mario; he's a cane and he is handsome as fuck. But he also didn't fuck that up. There's a lot of season left to see whether he's a good or a bad coach. Last night is not an indication that he's a bad coach. You faggots have not been able to run the ball between the tackles without trickeration or misdirection or Mariotta for a very long fucking time. Last night you did it against Stanford. Last night, he had the team ready to play a solid opponent in the wake of a miserable and disastrous three-year stretch for the program.
And, as others have said, Oregon is not getting her urban Meyer or Nick Saban to show up anytime soon.
Disagree w OBK on this. Cristobal is trying to establish a different identity for this team. More smash mouth, less finesse. So he’s coaching the kids to go 100% between the whistles. Sometimes shit like last night is going to happen. And our midget secondary is a weakness ready to be exploited.
Kneeling on the ball would not have erased anything they would have already achieved during that game. Remember the stop on 4th and 1? They’d be 1-0 with Stanford out of the way.
Leave it to the Pat Hills of the world to show how TUFF they are.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Jake Browning lives for running backwards in the pocket. All of his hard work at that finally paid off.
Honest question: Shouldn't all of our? players be tackling and holding the opposing players? Holding doesn't reset the clock so why not just hold the entire play?
Because holding gets declined and the clock stops.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Axe Chip Kelly.
The “new identity” was already established in the first 59 minutes.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oregon could have literally handed the ball off to Standford with 15~ seconds to go in the exact same spot with zero timeouts. Instead they gave it to them in the exact same spot with 1 minute to go and a time out.
It’s not as if Oregon had played a clean game up to that point handling the ball.
You can name the one time kneeling the game out didn’t work, I’ll show you the 5 million times it did.
Herberts first down ended the game.
There aren't five million examples. No one calculates a late punt.
Oregon could have literally handed the ball off to Standford with 15~ seconds to go in the exact same spot with zero timeouts. Instead they gave it to them in the exact same spot with 1 minute to go and a time out.
It’s not as if Oregon had played a clean game up to that point handling the ball.
You can name the one time kneeling the game out didn’t work, I’ll show you the 5 million times it did.
Herberts first down ended the game.
There aren't five million examples. No one calculates a late punt.
There aren’t 10 million examples of teams kneeling the game to death and then punting it in to oblivion?
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Axe Chip Kelly.
The “new identity” was already established in the first 59 minutes.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oh ok.
That wasn’t fucking, practice.
You're a troll, I get it, so you say stupid shit on purpose.
No one kneels there. You kneel when it's mathematical over. If Oregon kneels three times they have to punt against a 10 man rush with a 15 yard snap and the worst football player on the team catching it.
If Stanford stops Oregon on third down then of course you punt. Here is how FS stupid fans are. Zero people have complained about the 8 yard run on first down, but trying to get a 2 yard run on second down was a terrible idea. GTFOutta here.
Here is the FS equivalent: You hop in your car to run to the corner store and you get in an accident and die. Your FS family members wonder why you didn't just walk? Well because no adult with a car walks to stores and you could have been run over by a car walking and they'd wonder why you didn't drive.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Axe Chip Kelly.
The “new identity” was already established in the first 59 minutes.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oh ok.
That wasn’t fucking, practice.
You're a troll, I get it, so you say stupid shit on purpose.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Axe Chip Kelly.
The “new identity” was already established in the first 59 minutes.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oh ok.
That wasn’t fucking, practice.
You're a troll, I get it, so you say stupid shit on purpose.
No one kneels there. You kneel when it's mathematical over. If Oregon kneels three times they have to punt against a 10 man rush with a 15 yard snap and the worst football player on the team catching it.
If Stanford stops Oregon on third down then of course you punt. Here is how FS stupid fans are. Zero people have complained about the 8 yard run on first down, but trying to get a 2 yard run on second down was a terrible idea. GTFOutta here.
Here is the FS equivalent: You hop in your car to run to the corner store and you get in an accident and die. Your FS family members wonder why you didn't just walk? Well because no adult with a car walks to stores and you could have been run over by a car walking and they'd wonder why you didn't drive.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Axe Chip Kelly.
The “new identity” was already established in the first 59 minutes.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oh ok.
That wasn’t fucking, practice.
You're a troll, I get it, so you say stupid shit on purpose.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Axe Chip Kelly.
The “new identity” was already established in the first 59 minutes.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oh ok.
That wasn’t fucking, practice.
You're a troll, I get it, so you say stupid shit on purpose.
No one kneels there. You kneel when it's mathematical over. If Oregon kneels three times they have to punt against a 10 man rush with a 15 yard snap and the worst football player on the team catching it.
If Stanford stops Oregon on third down then of course you punt. Here is how FS stupid fans are. Zero people have complained about the 8 yard run on first down, but trying to get a 2 yard run on second down was a terrible idea. GTFOutta here.
Here is the FS equivalent: You hop in your car to run to the corner store and you get in an accident and die. Your FS family members wonder why you didn't just walk? Well because no adult with a car walks to stores and you could have been run over by a car walking and they'd wonder why you didn't drive.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Axe Chip Kelly.
The “new identity” was already established in the first 59 minutes.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oh ok.
That wasn’t fucking, practice.
You're a troll, I get it, so you say stupid shit on purpose.
No one kneels there. You kneel when it's mathematical over. If Oregon kneels three times they have to punt against a 10 man rush with a 15 yard snap and the worst football player on the team catching it.
If Stanford stops Oregon on third down then of course you punt. Here is how FS stupid fans are. Zero people have complained about the 8 yard run on first down, but trying to get a 2 yard run on second down was a terrible idea. GTFOutta here.
Here is the FS equivalent: You hop in your car to run to the corner store and you get in an accident and die. Your FS family members wonder why you didn't just walk? Well because no adult with a car walks to stores and you could have been run over by a car walking and they'd wonder why you didn't drive.
5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.
Axe Chip Kelly.
The “new identity” was already established in the first 59 minutes.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oh ok.
That wasn’t fucking, practice.
You're a troll, I get it, so you say stupid shit on purpose.
No one kneels there. You kneel when it's mathematical over. If Oregon kneels three times they have to punt against a 10 man rush with a 15 yard snap and the worst football player on the team catching it.
If Stanford stops Oregon on third down then of course you punt. Here is how FS stupid fans are. Zero people have complained about the 8 yard run on first down, but trying to get a 2 yard run on second down was a terrible idea. GTFOutta here.
Here is the FS equivalent: You hop in your car to run to the corner store and you get in an accident and die. Your FS family members wonder why you didn't just walk? Well because no adult with a car walks to stores and you could have been run over by a car walking and they'd wonder why you didn't drive.
He didn't fuck up. Saban, Dabo, Meyer, Carroll, Belichik, Parcells, Lombardi, and Jesus go for the 1st there. It was 2nd & 2. A freshman fucked up. That's what freshman do. TBJ was dinged up apparently and the only people left on the roster to run the ball were freshman.
No one besides Jim Harbaugh calculatedly punts the ball up by 3 late. You're being a fucktard.
I realize that down voting or what the fucking a Moster post is HCH101, but this post is spot on. Completely fucked hearted argument to suggest that handing the ball to your running back in short yardage when you're trying to kill the clock, and hopefully get a first down, is somehow a huge mistake. The kid fucked up by struggling for extra yards. That's where it happened. It's not that difficult.
Not reading most rest of thread, but agree with this part. Nothing wrong at all with handing off in that situation.
Way more fucktarded was putting 12 on the field after a timeout and shaving a cheap 5 off the FG attempt.
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I get it. Second-guessing is fun. A few people do it better than the creep. But this particular second guessing is FS. Yeah, I have a man crush on Mario; he's a cane and he is handsome as fuck. But he also didn't fuck that up. There's a lot of season left to see whether he's a good or a bad coach. Last night is not an indication that he's a bad coach. You faggots have not been able to run the ball between the tackles without trickeration or misdirection or Mariotta for a very long fucking time. Last night you did it against Stanford. Last night, he had the team ready to play a solid opponent in the wake of a miserable and disastrous three-year stretch for the program.
And, as others have said, Oregon is not getting her urban Meyer or Nick Saban to show up anytime soon.
Leave it to the Pat Hills of the world to show how TUFF they are.
Axe Chip Kelly.
That would actually be a terrible idea.
Hope this helps.
You think they kneel on the ball, beat one of the conf favorites, this team then emotionally folds the rest of the season because they didn’t prove how tough they are on 2nd and 2? Or can’t get a 2nd and 2 somewhere down the road because they didn’t try in week one vs Stanford?
Oh ok.
That wasn’t fucking, practice.
Yeah. That never happens.
No one kneels there. You kneel when it's mathematical over. If Oregon kneels three times they have to punt against a 10 man rush with a 15 yard snap and the worst football player on the team catching it.
If Stanford stops Oregon on third down then of course you punt. Here is how FS stupid fans are. Zero people have complained about the 8 yard run on first down, but trying to get a 2 yard run on second down was a terrible idea. GTFOutta here.
Here is the FS equivalent: You hop in your car to run to the corner store and you get in an accident and die. Your FS family members wonder why you didn't just walk? Well because no adult with a car walks to stores and you could have been run over by a car walking and they'd wonder why you didn't drive.
Good job, good effort.
The only thing wrong in your statement is it would be an 11-man rush, like the Michigan State game.
Way more fucktarded was putting 12 on the field after a timeout and shaving a cheap 5 off the FG attempt.