Why hasn't he been offered yet? In-state 4-star O-lineman and the ranking looks justified to me. We're not getting Gary Baker. He's going to Notre Dame. This kid is probably the next best LT available. Don't over think this. Just because he's 6'5 and not 6'7 doesn't mean he's lesser of a Tackle prospect. He's way better than Jeffrey Persi and Noah Nelson. Fucking offer this kid already!
Why hasn't he been offered yet? In-state 4-star O-lineman and the ranking looks justified to me. We're not getting Gary Baker. He's going to Notre Dame. This kid is probably the next best LT available. Don't over think this. Just because he's 6'5 and not 6'7 doesn't mean he's lesser of a Tackle prospect. He's way better than Jeffrey Persi and Noah Nelson. Fucking offer this kid already!
Pretty clear @Cohen12 has made it clear UW isn't taking anyone associated with Derek Johnson's crew.
Why hasn't he been offered yet? In-state 4-star O-lineman and the ranking looks justified to me. We're not getting Gary Baker. He's going to Notre Dame. This kid is probably the next best LT available. Don't over think this. Just because he's 6'5 and not 6'7 doesn't mean he's lesser of a Tackle prospect. He's way better than Jeffrey Persi and Noah Nelson. Fucking offer this kid already!
Why hasn't he been offered yet? In-state 4-star O-lineman and the ranking looks justified to me. We're not getting Gary Baker. He's going to Notre Dame. This kid is probably the next best LT available. Don't over think this. Just because he's 6'5 and not 6'7 doesn't mean he's lesser of a Tackle prospect. He's way better than Jeffrey Persi and Noah Nelson. Fucking offer this kid already!
He absolutely won't be playing tackle at the next level. He'll be a guard.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
Derek loved him before any of us had heard of him.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
Derek loved him before any of us had heard of him.
Try and keep up.
Then what's your fucking point? What does that have to do with whether or not this kid warrants an offer? Try to make sense and stay on topic. Try to think for yourself and formulate actual arguments when you disagree.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
Derek loved him before any of us had heard of him.
Try and keep up.
Then what's your fucking point? What does that have to do with whether or not this kid warrants an offer? Try to make sense and stay on topic. Try to think for yourself and formulate actual arguments when you disagree.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
Derek loved him before any of us had heard of him.
Try and keep up.
Then what's your fucking point? What does that have to do with whether or not this kid warrants an offer? Try to make sense and stay on topic. Try to think for yourself and formulate actual arguments when you disagree.
Learn to follow a fucking thread
Learn to make fucking sense, think for yourself, and formulate arguments. You're talking out your ass and arguing just to argue. Stay on topic. You don't think Rogers is deserving of an offer? Explain why in detail. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
Derek loved him before any of us had heard of him.
Try and keep up.
Then what's your fucking point? What does that have to do with whether or not this kid warrants an offer? Try to make sense and stay on topic. Try to think for yourself and formulate actual arguments when you disagree.
Learn to follow a fucking thread
Learn to make fucking sense, think for yourself, and formulate arguments. You're talking out your ass and arguing just to argue. Stay on topic. You don't think Rogers is deserving of an offer? Explain why in detail. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
I’ve decided to help you Ballz because I don’t want you to struggle.
HillsboroDuckDawg’s point is that Derek never said he wasn’t worth an offer or that he thought he sucked.
In fact he’s been touting him since last year when he declared him a 4 star even when all the networks had him as a 3 star.
Derek’s point was after watching him for longer than any of us have known about him, he is projecting him out as a guard and not a tackle.
Literally none of that says Derek thinks he shouldn’t get an offer. In fact, quite the opppsite.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
Derek loved him before any of us had heard of him.
Try and keep up.
Then what's your fucking point? What does that have to do with whether or not this kid warrants an offer? Try to make sense and stay on topic. Try to think for yourself and formulate actual arguments when you disagree.
Learn to follow a fucking thread
Learn to make fucking sense, think for yourself, and formulate arguments. You're talking out your ass and arguing just to argue. Stay on topic. You don't think Rogers is deserving of an offer? Explain why in detail. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
I’ve decided to help you Ballz because I don’t want you to struggle.
HillsboroDuckDawg’s point is that Derek never said he wasn’t worth an offer or that he thought he sucked.
In fact he’s been touting him since last year when he declared him a 4 star even when all the networks had him as a 3 star.
Derek’s point was after watching him for longer than any of us have known about him, he is projecting him out as a guard and not a tackle.
Literally none of that says Derek thinks he shouldn’t get an offer. In fact, quite the opppsite.
HTH.
And as I already fucking explained, Rogers has the athleticism and foot speed to play Tackle and he's a better Tackle than most of the Tackles UW has already offered. IDGAF what Derek says. He can have his opinion and that's fine but I'll go with what my eyes tell me over any other fan's opinion that's not backed up by any details or facts. You can agree or disagree. But don't act like a little bitch and be like "well Derek has seen him in person and he says he's a Guard." @HillsboroDuck Okay and...? When did Derek become a football coach? The Doogman guys and 247 guys see kids in person all the time. Doesn't mean their talent evaluations are more valid than anybody else's because they clearly fuck those up all the time.
Rogers can play Guard OR Tackle. Hatchett can play Guard OR Tackle. Curne can play Guard OR TACKLE. Fautanu can play Guard OR Tackle. Just because guys aren't 6'6 or taller doesn't mean they can't play Tackle. It's about fucking foot speed and athleticism which can be seen in one fucking play on a highlight reel. You either have it or you don't and it's obvious which ones have it and which ones don't. Rogers has it.
The point is, there's no fucking reason as to why Rogers shouldn't have an offer. He's an in-state, versatile swing lineman with legit NFL talent. We can disagree on his position fit all day long but that's the overarching point that needs to be addressed. Why is he being slow played? He's an automatic take regardless of position fit.
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
Derek loved him before any of us had heard of him.
Try and keep up.
Then what's your fucking point? What does that have to do with whether or not this kid warrants an offer? Try to make sense and stay on topic. Try to think for yourself and formulate actual arguments when you disagree.
Learn to follow a fucking thread
Learn to make fucking sense, think for yourself, and formulate arguments. You're talking out your ass and arguing just to argue. Stay on topic. You don't think Rogers is deserving of an offer? Explain why in detail. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
I’ve decided to help you Ballz because I don’t want you to struggle.
HillsboroDuckDawg’s point is that Derek never said he wasn’t worth an offer or that he thought he sucked.
In fact he’s been touting him since last year when he declared him a 4 star even when all the networks had him as a 3 star.
Derek’s point was after watching him for longer than any of us have known about him, he is projecting him out as a guard and not a tackle.
Literally none of that says Derek thinks he shouldn’t get an offer. In fact, quite the opppsite.
HTH.
And as I already fucking explained, Rogers has the athleticism and foot speed to play Tackle and he's a better Tackle than most of the Tackles UW has already offered. IDGAF what Derek says. He can have his opinion and that's fine but I'll go with what my eyes tell me over any other fan's opinion that's not backed up by any details or facts. You can agree or disagree. But don't act like a little bitch and be like "well Derek has seen him in person and he says he's a Guard." @HillsboroDuck Okay and...? When did Derek become a football coach? The Doogman guys and 247 guys see kids in person all the time. Doesn't mean their talent evaluations are more valid than anybody else's because they clearly fuck those up all the time.
Rogers can play Guard OR Tackle. Hatchett can play Guard OR Tackle. Curne can play Guard OR TACKLE. Fautanu can play Guard OR Tackle. Just because guys aren't 6'6 or taller doesn't mean they can't play Tackle. It's about fucking foot speed and athleticism which can be seen in one fucking play on a highlight reel. You either have it or you don't and it's obvious which ones have it and which ones don't. Rogers has it.
The point is, there's no fucking reason as to why Rogers shouldn't have an offer. He's an in-state, versatile swing lineman with legit NFL talent. We can disagree on his position fit all day long but that's the overarching point that needs to be addressed. Why is he being slow played? He's an automatic take regardless of position fit.
The sad part is I don’t disagree with paragraphs 2 and 3. Derek thought he was a guard, and you disagreed. Everyone is fine with that.
Where you lost us all and went off the rails was when HillsboroDuckDawg said Derek has seen him for years and he trusts his evaluation over yours, and your response was:
What the fuck are you guys watching? Look how quick and fast his feet are and how smooth he moves. Compare that to Persi or Nelson's film and they look slower, stiffer, less athletic, and less nasty. He can play fucking Tackle in college all day long. He's got that Victor Curne ability to stay on a block when the defender is trying to move laterally to get off the block and then the quick burst to pancake the defender. He's got the quickness and athleticism to flip his hips and run off a speed rusher in pass pro. He looks like Matteo Mele. Sure he can play Guard too but he's not incapable of playing Tackle in college. I've gone through all the film and this is what UW's O-line class should realistically be:
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3* OC/OG: Myles Murao 4* OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4* OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4* OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek has watched him play for years. You have watched some hand selected highlights.
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Derek doesn't know shit if he doesn't think Rogers is good.
You decided Derek didn’t think Rogers was good, just because he was projecting him as a guard. When HDD said follow the thread, he was referring to the fact that Stalin fucking loves Rogers and was the first one to do so.
Then you doubled down with the stance that no one thinks he’s good enough to get an offer and told HDD to stay on topic, which is exactly what he was doing while you lost the topic entirely.
When you are StrongArmCobra, you have a unique stance, personal opinion, and passion for what you believe, it’s fucking awesome. That’s the best part about you. You don’t just regurgitate memes or inside jokes. You have opinions assessments and you stand by them.
When you lose your train of thought and revert to Ballz, suddenly you’re down a rabbit hole of hurling insults and calling everyone a retard who disagrees with you, simply because you want to be right instead of have a difference of opinion, that’s where you lose me man.
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On the other hand, he's not very good.
Derek was FIRST!
OG: Gaard Memmelaar 3*
OC/OG: Myles Murao 4*
OG/OT: Geirean Hatchett 4*
OG/OT: Levi Rogers 4*
OT: Roger Rosengarten 4*
Derek's opinion here >>>>>>>> the rest of ours.
Try and keep up.
HillsboroDuckDawg’s point is that Derek never said he wasn’t worth an offer or that he thought he sucked.
In fact he’s been touting him since last year when he declared him a 4 star even when all the networks had him as a 3 star.
Derek’s point was after watching him for longer than any of us have known about him, he is projecting him out as a guard and not a tackle.
Literally none of that says Derek thinks he shouldn’t get an offer. In fact, quite the opppsite.
HTH.
Rogers can play Guard OR Tackle. Hatchett can play Guard OR Tackle. Curne can play Guard OR TACKLE. Fautanu can play Guard OR Tackle. Just because guys aren't 6'6 or taller doesn't mean they can't play Tackle. It's about fucking foot speed and athleticism which can be seen in one fucking play on a highlight reel. You either have it or you don't and it's obvious which ones have it and which ones don't. Rogers has it.
The point is, there's no fucking reason as to why Rogers shouldn't have an offer. He's an in-state, versatile swing lineman with legit NFL talent. We can disagree on his position fit all day long but that's the overarching point that needs to be addressed. Why is he being slow played? He's an automatic take regardless of position fit.
The sad part is I don’t disagree with paragraphs 2 and 3. Derek thought he was a guard, and you disagreed. Everyone is fine with that.
Where you lost us all and went off the rails was when HillsboroDuckDawg said Derek has seen him for years and he trusts his evaluation over yours, and your response was:
You decided Derek didn’t think Rogers was good, just because he was projecting him as a guard. When HDD said follow the thread, he was referring to the fact that Stalin fucking loves Rogers and was the first one to do so.
Then you doubled down with the stance that no one thinks he’s good enough to get an offer and told HDD to stay on topic, which is exactly what he was doing while you lost the topic entirely.
When you are StrongArmCobra, you have a unique stance, personal opinion, and passion for what you believe, it’s fucking awesome. That’s the best part about you. You don’t just regurgitate memes or inside jokes. You have opinions assessments and you stand by them.
When you lose your train of thought and revert to Ballz, suddenly you’re down a rabbit hole of hurling insults and calling everyone a retard who disagrees with you, simply because you want to be right instead of have a difference of opinion, that’s where you lose me man.