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Capitalism versus socialism

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,570 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    I can’t think of any reason why an oil company that is also in the NG business wouldn’t allow NG to be used as an alternative

    The margin on NG is tiny.

    There was a phase back in 2010 where NG was around $11/mcf but it has hovered between $2 and $4.50/mcf for the last 7 years or so.

    More than anything while people think that the energy and oil markets are a set of oligopolies they really aren't.



    It's a fabrication of the Left and a mythos from the days of Standard Oil to think there's some kind of cabal capable of controlling the market like that.
    Truth.

    There are hundreds, if not thousands of independent producers in the US.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    SFGbob said:

    I can’t think of any reason why an oil company that is also in the NG business wouldn’t allow NG to be used as an alternative

    The margin on NG is tiny.

    There was a phase back in 2010 where NG was around $11/mcf but it has hovered between $2 and $4.50/mcf for the last 7 years or so.

    More than anything while people think that the energy and oil markets are a set of oligopolies they really aren't.



    It's a fabrication of the Left and a mythos from the days of Standard Oil to think there's some kind of cabal capable of controlling the market like that.
    Who controls refining and delivery of oil/gas?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    I can’t think of any reason why an oil company that is also in the NG business wouldn’t allow NG to be used as an alternative

    The margin on NG is tiny.

    There was a phase back in 2010 where NG was around $11/mcf but it has hovered between $2 and $4.50/mcf for the last 7 years or so.

    More than anything while people think that the energy and oil markets are a set of oligopolies they really aren't.



    It's a fabrication of the Left and a mythos from the days of Standard Oil to think there's some kind of cabal capable of controlling the market like that.
    Who controls refining and delivery of oil/gas?
    The Bilderburgs or the Stonecutters I forget which
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Socialism is a bad idea. BAD!
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,354 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    Socialism is a bad idea. BAD!

    Yes, corky, socialism and its tenets are bad. Centralized governmental control of "the means of production" and the "equitable distribution of wealth" are very bad ideas. Socialism is ultimately incompatible with our constitutional republic as it violates our inherent rights.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club

    That's great, but who gives a shit in the long run if we don't find an alternative for oil.

    In the long run we are all dead.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,616 Standard Supporter

    jecornel said:

    Socialism is a bad idea. BAD!

    Yes, corky, socialism and its tenets are bad. Centralized governmental control of "the means of production" and the "equitable distribution of wealth" are very bad ideas. Socialism is ultimately incompatible with our constitutional republic as it violates our inherent rights.
    The Dems have wanted the constitution gone forever! Not Americans!
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    jecornel said:

    Socialism is a bad idea. BAD!

    Yes, corky, socialism and its tenets are bad. Centralized governmental control of "the means of production" and the "equitable distribution of wealth" are very bad ideas. Socialism is ultimately incompatible with our constitutional republic as it violates our inherent rights.
    Sad they don't teach this in the schools and universities anymore. If they did, we would not be where we are today with a movement of retards demanding Marxism and wanting to live under socialism/communism instead of capitalism.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited September 2018
    Tear the entire rotten education system down and rebuild it. It has been a colossal failure. Trump needs to start devoting time and energy to this. The education system is an existential threat to the republic in its current form because it's churning out a bunch of Marxists, fascists and racists who don't respect freedom, have no knowledge of history and who view the Constitution as a white privilege document.

    Reform it now or Civil War later. Everyone can see where this is heading. Take your pick.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,681
    Nothing screams communism like being a ducks fan