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NCAA athletic scholarships going to foreign nationals
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Been watching the Pac12 network lately and since they don't have any real commercials they have "player" profiles. I can't help but notice that a disproportionate number of the Olympic or non-revenue sport athletes in these profiles are foreign nationals. This begged the question for me. Should public institution(excludes private schools like USC) athletic scholarships(for non-revenue sports) be going to foreign nationals?
Article exploring the numbers
While it seems like overall the numbers are low, 17,000 total in the US, it seems like it's hard to justify the fact that we are subsidizing those students educations simply to play sports that themselves require subsidy. Even worse, these scholarships aren't going to US athletes that would otherwise receive them. What reasons do we have for supplying foreign nationals with public US educations at the expense of our own student athletes?
Article exploring the numbers
While it seems like overall the numbers are low, 17,000 total in the US, it seems like it's hard to justify the fact that we are subsidizing those students educations simply to play sports that themselves require subsidy. Even worse, these scholarships aren't going to US athletes that would otherwise receive them. What reasons do we have for supplying foreign nationals with public US educations at the expense of our own student athletes?
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You’re not ok with UW offering football scholarships to communists and terrorists that will win a rose bowl?
Own up or your entire schtick is bullshit.
These aren't people who are tied to the US in any way other than wanting to get a US education at a severe discount while also getting their sports careers developed so they can go play for their own foreign national teams.
I'm really at a loss for why you are triggered by me wondering at why this makes any sense. I don't give a shit if they want to PAY to come here and get educated. WTF are we doing paying them to do so?
Please, by any means, make a point or argument of your own.
My argument: winners win.
Keep in mind that at UW those scholarships are not coming from tax payer dollars. The athletic department is completely self funded.
@creepycoug will prolly want to weigh in in this thread.
We should be protecting mediocre American athletes and reserving those spots for them. Not a bunch of border freaks.
YEAH....FUCK THOSE FOREIGN ATHLETES!!!!
Wait...what?!?!
What we can't deduce from this articles is the following:
1 - What percentage of the 17,000 are on partial or full rides?
2- And of that number, what percentage are at public universities where athletic scholarships are not self funded by football and hoops revenue?
College BBall recruits all over the world. If somehow Samoa or Hawaii werent a US Territory, you’d see the same thing with Football.
A lot to criticize University about these days, but this isn’t on my list.
The only way for the other big time rowing schools like Harvard and UW to keep pace was to start recruiting internationally as well. So if you look at when we won 5 NT's in a row from 2011 - 15, the Varsity 8 was typically 50 to 60% foreign rowers. This is all fine and well in the short term, but the concern has been is where are those foreign guys going to be in 20, 30 or 40 years tim? You see, rowing at UDub has always relied heavily on alumni donations over the years to fund a fair amount of the program's budget. They have about a $14 million dollar endowment right now which pays for the Men's full ride schollies amongst other things like trip to Henley. So, it's incumbent to the program's long term success that you hopefully have a lot of alumni who end up living in Washington and becoming rich, successful businessmen who will write fat checks some day.
The tide has turned somewhat of late and our boat 2nd place loser boat last year had 6 of 8 rowers being from the US. Yale where @Gladstone corches now by the way is the 2 time defending champs and there boats the past few years are about 80% foreigners.