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NCAA athletic scholarships going to foreign nationals

UW_Doog_Bot
UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,563 Founders Club
Been watching the Pac12 network lately and since they don't have any real commercials they have "player" profiles. I can't help but notice that a disproportionate number of the Olympic or non-revenue sport athletes in these profiles are foreign nationals. This begged the question for me. Should public institution(excludes private schools like USC) athletic scholarships(for non-revenue sports) be going to foreign nationals?

Article exploring the numbers

While it seems like overall the numbers are low, 17,000 total in the US, it seems like it's hard to justify the fact that we are subsidizing those students educations simply to play sports that themselves require subsidy. Even worse, these scholarships aren't going to US athletes that would otherwise receive them. What reasons do we have for supplying foreign nationals with public US educations at the expense of our own student athletes?
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sounds like the US wants to win.

    You’re not ok with UW offering football scholarships to communists and terrorists that will win a rose bowl?

    Own up or your entire schtick is bullshit.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Sounds like the US wants to win.

    You’re not ok with UW offering football scholarships to communists and terrorists that will win a rose bowl?

    Own up or your entire schtick is bullshit.

    *playoff
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,563 Founders Club

    Sounds like the US wants to win.

    You’re not ok with UW offering football scholarships to communists and terrorists that will win a rose bowl?

    Own up or your entire schtick is bullshit.

    I'm not sure how I feel about tax money paying to subsidize the educations of foreign nationals for no apparent return on the investment. Apparently, it's important for us to develop foreign athletes so we can be more competitive within the NCAA for sports that have no viewership?

    These aren't people who are tied to the US in any way other than wanting to get a US education at a severe discount while also getting their sports careers developed so they can go play for their own foreign national teams.

    I'm really at a loss for why you are triggered by me wondering at why this makes any sense. I don't give a shit if they want to PAY to come here and get educated. WTF are we doing paying them to do so?

    Please, by any means, make a point or argument of your own.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,563 Founders Club

    Sounds like the US wants to win.

    You’re not ok with UW offering football scholarships to communists and terrorists that will win a rose bowl?

    Own up or your entire schtick is bullshit.

    Also, as I said, non-revenue sports. IDGAF if someone wants to come here and make money for the NCAA.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Sounds like the US wants to win.

    You’re not ok with UW offering football scholarships to communists and terrorists that will win a rose bowl?

    Own up or your entire schtick is bullshit.

    I'm not sure how I feel about tax money paying to subsidize the educations of foreign nationals for no apparent return on the investment. Apparently, it's important for us to develop foreign athletes so we can be more competitive within the NCAA for sports that have no viewership?

    These aren't people who are tied to the US in any way other than wanting to get a US education at a severe discount while also getting their sports careers developed so they can go play for their own foreign national teams.

    I'm really at a loss for why you are triggered by me wondering at why this makes any sense. I don't give a shit if they want to PAY to come here and get educated. WTF are we doing paying them to do so?

    Please, by any means, make a point or argument of your own.
    By all means, please weigh in when you figure out how you feel.

    My argument: winners win.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,563 Founders Club

    Sounds like the US wants to win.

    You’re not ok with UW offering football scholarships to communists and terrorists that will win a rose bowl?

    Own up or your entire schtick is bullshit.

    I'm not sure how I feel about tax money paying to subsidize the educations of foreign nationals for no apparent return on the investment. Apparently, it's important for us to develop foreign athletes so we can be more competitive within the NCAA for sports that have no viewership?

    These aren't people who are tied to the US in any way other than wanting to get a US education at a severe discount while also getting their sports careers developed so they can go play for their own foreign national teams.

    I'm really at a loss for why you are triggered by me wondering at why this makes any sense. I don't give a shit if they want to PAY to come here and get educated. WTF are we doing paying them to do so?

    Please, by any means, make a point or argument of your own.
    By all means, please weigh in when you figure out how you feel.

    My argument: winners win.
    OK!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Sounds like the US wants to win.

    You’re not ok with UW offering football scholarships to communists and terrorists that will win a rose bowl?

    Own up or your entire schtick is bullshit.

    Also, as I said, non-revenue sports. IDGAF if someone wants to come here and make money for the NCAA.
    While I am on the fence on this issue. I don't agree that it matters what sport they play. Either let them have scholarships or not.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,714 Founders Club
    12 foreign nationals on the women's row boat squad. https://gohuskies.com/roster.aspx?roster=144&path=wrow

    Keep in mind that at UW those scholarships are not coming from tax payer dollars. The athletic department is completely self funded.

    @creepycoug will prolly want to weigh in in this thread.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,286
    edited September 2018

    12 foreign nationals on the women's row boat squad. https://gohuskies.com/roster.aspx?roster=144&path=wrow

    Keep in mind that at UW those scholarships are not coming from tax payer dollars. The athletic department is completely self funded.

    @creepycoug will prolly want to weigh in in this thread.

    Foreigners!!!!!! Alert @oregonblitzkrieg and @Sledog !

    We should be protecting mediocre American athletes and reserving those spots for them. Not a bunch of border freaks.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,563 Founders Club

    12 foreign nationals on the women's row boat squad. https://gohuskies.com/roster.aspx?roster=144&path=wrow

    Keep in mind that at UW those scholarships are not coming from tax payer dollars. The athletic department is completely self funded.

    @creepycoug will prolly want to weigh in in this thread.

    I mean the athletic department is fully funded by revenue sports...hence my distinctions. I wouldn't say my mind is by any means made up but it's worth challenging the assumption.