"We debunked this falsehood when Sen. John McCain said it during the third presidential debate. McCain claimed that “as he said, his object is a single payer system.” But as a presidential candidate, Obama didn’t say that at all. And the plan he proposed wasn’t a single-payer system, one in which everyone is covered by health insurance through the government. As we said in our Oct. 16 article, Obama said at a town hall meeting in Albuquerque last summer that a single payer system would “probably” be his first choice “if” he were “designing a system from scratch.” But instead, he said, his “attitude is let’s build up the system we got, let’s make it more efficient, we may be over time – as we make the system more efficient and everybody’s covered – decide that there are other ways for us to provide care more effectively.”
"Obama, May 14: If I were starting a system from scratch, then I think that the idea of moving towards a single-payer system could very well make sense. That’s the kind of system that you have in most industrialized countries around the world.
The only problem is that we’re not starting from scratch. We have historically a tradition of employer-based health care. And although there are a lot of people who are not satisfied with their health care, the truth is, is that the vast majority of people currently get health care from their employers and you’ve got this system that’s already in place. We don’t want a huge disruption as we go into health care reform where suddenly we’re trying to completely reinvent one-sixth of the economy.
So what I’ve said is, let’s set up a system where if you already have health care through your employer and you’re happy with it, you don’t have to change doctors, you don’t have to change plans — nothing changes. If you don’t have health care or you’re highly unsatisfied with your health care, then let’s give you choices, let’s give you options, including a public plan that you could enroll in and sign up for. That’s been my proposal."
BTW Bob, Owl still has his insurance and it hasn't changed. I think he is still looking for that $2,500 though.
So he was for universal health Care. Got it.
He was for a single payer system and he just lied and claimed he wasn't. Kind of like how you lie here all the time. I can see why you like him so much. You both have a lot in common. Just like with gay marriage, now he feels free to state what his real position was all along. Medicare for all = single payer healthcare. Single payer health care = Nationalization of healthcare.
Exactly Bob. As you said and libs here don't seem to comprehend or admit..........Oboner DIDN'T RUN ON NATIONALISED OR UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE
[But instead, he said, his “attitude is let’s build up the system we got, let’s make it more efficient, we may be over time – as we make the system more efficient and everybody’s covered – decide that there are other ways for us to provide care more effectively.”
So what I’ve said is, let’s set up a system where if you already have health care through your employer and you’re happy with it, you don’t have to change doctors, you don’t have to change plans — nothing changes. If you don’t have health care or you’re highly unsatisfied with your health care, then let’s give you choices, let’s give you options, including a public plan that you could enroll in and sign up for. That’s been my proposal."]
These two statement show that he was either incredibly ignorant of economics or incredibly disingenuous. Most likely abundance.
He passed market-based health care reform which sucked because anything short of socialized health care is unworkable. Apparently he has realized this, but far too late.
There is nothing market-based about healthcare in America.
Thanks to Obama's Healthcare plan, millions more people are now covered by Health Insurance that is paid for by other working-class people whose rates went up and now both groups receive a far more complicated, onerous, bureaucratic and inferior product. Yay.
Thanks to Obama's Healthcare plan, millions more people are now covered by Health Insurance that is paid for by other working-class people whose rates went up and now both groups receive a far more complicated, onerous, bureaucratic and inferior product. Yay.
I don't know. My insurance went from 8% increases every year to 3% or so. I won. 30 million people have health Care that didn't before.
While the law was shit and there's lots to do to fix it. It's better than the old system.
It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.
Thanks for that.
And there's the strawman ass fuck.
Again with the homoerotic talk.
Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
Thanks to Obama's Healthcare plan, millions more people are now covered by Health Insurance that is paid for by other working-class people whose rates went up and now both groups receive a far more complicated, onerous, bureaucratic and inferior product. Yay.
I don't know. My insurance went from 8% increases every year to 3% or so. I won. 30 million people have health Care that didn't before.
While the law was shit and there's lots to do to fix it. It's better than the old system.
30 million people didn't lack healthcare my lying dipshit Kunt of a friend. Not having health insurance doesn't = not having healthcare. But please continue to shove that head even further up your ass.
Thanks to Obama's Healthcare plan, millions more people are now covered by Health Insurance that is paid for by other working-class people whose rates went up and now both groups receive a far more complicated, onerous, bureaucratic and inferior product. Yay.
I don't know. My insurance went from 8% increases every year to 3% or so. I won. 30 million people have health Care that didn't before.
While the law was shit and there's lots to do to fix it. It's better than the old system.
If you fail to appreciate what a Time-Bomb Obamacare is, I can't help you. I got the teaser rate my first two years, too. Then came the 12% increase and higher deductibles.
Funny thing one must realize: Money doesn't grow on trees, except in Socialist utopias, like Venezuela, which I hear is nice.
Thanks to Obama's Healthcare plan, millions more people are now covered by Health Insurance that is paid for by other working-class people whose rates went up and now both groups receive a far more complicated, onerous, bureaucratic and inferior product. Yay.
I don't know. My insurance went from 8% increases every year to 3% or so. I won. 30 million people have health Care that didn't before.
While the law was shit and there's lots to do to fix it. It's better than the old system.
If you fail to appreciate what a Time-Bomb Obamacare is, I can't help you. I got the teaser rate my first two years, too. Then came the 12% increase and higher deductibles.
Funny thing one must realize: Money doesn't grow on trees, except in Socialist utopias, like Venezuela, which I hear is nice.
Liar. 7 years later.... The only people getting ridiculous increases to insurance are those that are buying of the exchange and live in small counties. Cause fucksticks on both sides of the aisle won't get rid of the county lines and let insurers market across the entire state.
It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.
Thanks for that.
And there's the strawman ass fuck.
Again with the homoerotic talk.
Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
Thanks to Obama's Healthcare plan, millions more people are now covered by Health Insurance that is paid for by other working-class people whose rates went up and now both groups receive a far more complicated, onerous, bureaucratic and inferior product. Yay.
I don't know. My insurance went from 8% increases every year to 3% or so. I won. 30 million people have health Care that didn't before.
While the law was shit and there's lots to do to fix it. It's better than the old system.
If you fail to appreciate what a Time-Bomb Obamacare is, I can't help you. I got the teaser rate my first two years, too. Then came the 12% increase and higher deductibles.
Funny thing one must realize: Money doesn't grow on trees, except in Socialist utopias, like Venezuela, which I hear is nice.
Liar. 7 years later.... The only people getting ridiculous increases to insurance are those that are buying of the exchange and live in small counties. Cause fucksticks on both sides of the aisle won't get rid of the county lines and let insurers market across the entire state.
For the millionth time, you haven't a clue of what you're babbling about, but confirming how yummy you find Obama's dick.
It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.
Thanks for that.
And there's the strawman ass fuck.
Again with the homoerotic talk.
Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
Embarrassing.
Notice how this dipshit never addresses the instances where he puts his head up his ass. Claiming that 30 million people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare is pure bullshit. But being the mouthy little dipshit he is, Hondo just acts like he never said it and powers through to a new and better head up the ass moment.
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So what I’ve said is, let’s set up a system where if you already have health care through your employer and you’re happy with it, you don’t have to change doctors, you don’t have to change plans — nothing changes. If you don’t have health care or you’re highly unsatisfied with your health care, then let’s give you choices, let’s give you options, including a public plan that you could enroll in and sign up for. That’s been my proposal."]
These two statement show that he was either incredibly ignorant of economics or incredibly disingenuous. Most likely abundance.
Thanks for that.
It's literally to the point we have to let these fat people die ASAP for national security reasons.
HTH
While the law was shit and there's lots to do to fix it. It's better than the old system.
Funny thing one must realize: Money doesn't grow on trees, except in Socialist utopias, like Venezuela, which I hear is nice.