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The Dynasty That Never Was: Inside the Unraveling of the Seattle Seahawks

GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/07/seattle-seahawks-dismantling-rift-russell-wilson-pete-carroll?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_medium=social&__twitter_impression=true

As they grew into Super Bowl contenders, the Seahawks—especially the Legion of Boom defense—prided themselves on a ruthless internal competitiveness that lifted everyone and was the foundation of an NFL championship. But some former and current Seattle players say a growing rift developed, based largely on the special treatment some felt was afforded quarterback Russell Wilson. Now the team they believed was set up for a long run of success has been torn up and rebuilt around Wilson. Did it have to go down like this?
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,812 Founders Club
    Ha, ha. Suck it 12's.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Klemko at SI is a true lackey for Sherman.
    He's stupid af

    Eh, that's probably true. A lot of teams have highly paid QB's, then the salary cap issues, trading away draft picks, integrating a new QB with the playbook, etc.

    I doubt more than 5 teams would be interested in trading for Drew Bree's, Matt Ryan, etc.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Klemko at SI is a true lackey for Sherman.
    He's stupid af

    Eh, that's probably true. A lot of teams have highly paid QB's, then the salary cap issues, trading away draft picks, integrating a new QB with the playbook, etc.

    I doubt more than 5 teams would be interested in trading for Drew Bree's, Matt Ryan, etc.
    That's not what he's talking about though. He's not saying teams couldn't afford him, he's saying they wouldn't want him.

  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Irregardless, Pete Carroll coddled Bevell and Wilson and destroyed the team's championship window.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,057 Founders Club

    Irregardless, Pete Carroll coddled Bevell and Wilson and destroyed the team's championship window.

    Championship Window Superiority Guy
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,931
    There's plenty of blame to be thrown around with respect to what happened with this team … I give credit to the guys that spoke on the record.

    Whether people want to believe it or not, QBs do get treated a bit differently for a whole other set of reasons. If there was a rift in the team (and it was obvious that there was), then the Seahawks made the right call on putting the balance of the team on Wilson's shoulders.

    There were some stupid things done like not giving Marshawn the ball in the Super Bowl that was FS and how much of it was ego vs outsmarting yourself vs whatever nobody will ever know.

    The biggest mistake the Seahawks made through all of this was not nipping this in the bud earlier. They let last season ride out when it was painfully obvious that it was broken beyond repair. Instead of getting something for Sherman they got nothing for him. Instead of moving on from Earl this offseason when they didn't want to pay him was to move him versus have this bitterness linger and repeat the same mistakes from last year.

    They'll be better off in the long run for pulling the plug on this run. Petey likely needs to retire. I don't think Schneider is an idiot but he's moving way too lock step with Petey at this point and it's setting the organization backwards.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,484
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367



    In short...

    This was a big part of it.

    Michael Bennett was a POS inside the Lockeroom. Sherman talked shit but Wilson respected him. When Bevil called the failed slant in the Super Bowl Bennett accused the coaching staff of being racists trying to elevate Wilson, despite the fact he’s black, over Lynch.

    True story.

    Wilson is to blame too. He acted like a little bitch over his contract.

    What made the Hawks great was ultimately their undoing. Michael Bennett is a POS. Nuff said on that.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Baseman said:



    In short...

    This was a big part of it.

    Michael Bennett was a POS inside the Lockeroom. Sherman talked shit but Wilson respected him. When Bevil called the failed slant in the Super Bowl Bennett accused the coaching staff of being racists trying to elevate Wilson, despite the fact he’s black, over Lynch.

    True story.

    Wilson is to blame too. He acted like a little bitch over his contract.

    What made the Hawks great was ultimately their undoing. Michael Bennett is a POS. Nuff said on that.
    Bennett is absolutely a POS, but protecting Bevell and Wilson after That Slant was unforgivable.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    Baseman said:



    In short...

    This was a big part of it.

    Michael Bennett was a POS inside the Lockeroom. Sherman talked shit but Wilson respected him. When Bevil called the failed slant in the Super Bowl Bennett accused the coaching staff of being racists trying to elevate Wilson, despite the fact he’s black, over Lynch.

    True story.

    Wilson is to blame too. He acted like a little bitch over his contract.

    What made the Hawks great was ultimately their undoing. Michael Bennett is a POS. Nuff said on that.
    Bennett is absolutely a POS, but protecting Bevell and Wilson after That Slant was unforgivable.

    Overplaying the race card is always special
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,484
    Baseman said:



    In short...

    This was a big part of it.

    Michael Bennett was a POS inside the Lockeroom. Sherman talked shit but Wilson respected him. When Bevil called the failed slant in the Super Bowl Bennett accused the coaching staff of being racists trying to elevate Wilson, despite the fact he’s black, over Lynch.

    True story.

    Wilson is to blame too. He acted like a little bitch over his contract.

    What made the Hawks great was ultimately their undoing. Michael Bennett is a POS. Nuff said on that.
    Point being...if the slant isn’t thrown, there would be no article.

    It wasn’t just the racist belief, it was the fact the players thought they were smarter than the coaching staff. Who would blame them after that play call? If Seattle hadn’t had a timeout in their back pocket I would understand. But that wasn’t the case. Given the moment, it was the dumbest playcall in NFL history. There’s no coming back from that.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,148 Founders Club
    In 2015, they started 2-4 with what was still a pretty good to great roster. The early schedule was tough, but you could tell it wasn't the same team, and they flat out blew the Cincinnati and Carolina games. Firing Bevell after 2014 would have sent a message and probably mitigated some of this, but they also just gradually became worse due to less talent, age, departures, and injuries.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,996 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited September 2018
    What about the theory that the seahawks just suck ass and they lucked into one Superbowl? 9ers were the better team in 2013 and they got them at home.

    WhoDat Nation, true?!
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Hawks are on the right track. The defense is a year and a couple players away.

    Offense is a lot better.

    Not saying they will get back to the 2012-2014 level, but they aren't nearly as bad as some make them out to be.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:



    In short...

    This was a big part of it.

    Michael Bennett was a POS inside the Lockeroom. Sherman talked shit but Wilson respected him. When Bevil called the failed slant in the Super Bowl Bennett accused the coaching staff of being racists trying to elevate Wilson, despite the fact he’s black, over Lynch.

    True story.

    Wilson is to blame too. He acted like a little bitch over his contract.

    What made the Hawks great was ultimately their undoing. Michael Bennett is a POS. Nuff said on that.
    Bennett is absolutely a POS, but protecting Bevell and Wilson after That Slant was unforgivable.

    Overplaying the race card is always special
    winners win
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    Baseman said:



    In short...

    This was a big part of it.

    Michael Bennett was a POS inside the Lockeroom. Sherman talked shit but Wilson respected him. When Bevil called the failed slant in the Super Bowl Bennett accused the coaching staff of being racists trying to elevate Wilson, despite the fact he’s black, over Lynch.

    True story.

    Wilson is to blame too. He acted like a little bitch over his contract.

    What made the Hawks great was ultimately their undoing. Michael Bennett is a POS. Nuff said on that.
    Point being...if the slant isn’t thrown, there would be no article.

    It wasn’t just the racist belief, it was the fact the players thought they were smarter than the coaching staff. Who would blame them after that play call? If Seattle hadn’t had a timeout in their back pocket I would understand. But that wasn’t the case. Given the moment, it was the dumbest playcall in NFL history. There’s no coming back from that.
    No. Point being that lockeroom was a powder keg.

    Petes rah rah shtick works for a young team with a chip on their shoulder. The Midget QB Hugh Millen said could never play QB. Lynch: Buffalos trash. Sherman and Bennett, overlooked and disrespected. Thomas’s swagger. Chancellors thunder. It was inevitable they’d win a Super Bowl but that success quickly cratered.

    Pete. Schneider. The players. All had a hand in the early success. Then came Hubris. It’s been the script since man was created.

    Wilson challenged the team after the first super bowl to get better. Bennett said “fuck you.” And so it went.

    Pete can’t win with a veteran tenured roster. New blood. Younger. Unfamiliar. It’s the only way.

    I haven’t given a shit about the Hawks since the days of Chuck Knox and the Kingdome. Sonics>>>>Hawks



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