trump is like a smart person
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Just wait until Democrats make Indiana the next Venezuela.
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Stable Genius
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Medicare became socialist it wasn't intended to be. People pay in all their working days and then are supposed to get insurance when they hit 65. Until politicians begin buying votes by awarding benefits to people that never paid. Sounds just like social security. Of course welfare etc. is the biggest vote purchaser and we all know who the buyers are.
It's the assholes that ruin everything. I'm for neither program because politicians are assholes and I don't like the government having control over really important sectors of my life. Of course we have many here that want to sit on their ass and demand a portion of the sweat from others brows and to that I say FUCK OFF! -
Sledog prefers a business with a profit motive to determine his health Care. Just don't whine when they pull the plug on your vegetable ass.
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Death panels burger bitch.2001400ex said:Sledog prefers a business with a profit motive to determine his health Care. Just don't whine when they pull the plug on your vegetable ass.
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So a socialist program wasn't intended to be socialist. Got itSledog said:Medicare became socialist it wasn't intended to be. People pay in all their working days and then are supposed to get insurance when they hit 65. Until politicians begin buying votes by awarding benefits to people that never paid. Sounds just like social security. Of course welfare etc. is the biggest vote purchaser and we all know who the buyers are.
It's the assholes that ruin everything. I'm for neither program because politicians are assholes and I don't like the government having control over really important sectors of my life. Of course we have many here that want to sit on their ass and demand a portion of the sweat from others brows and to that I say FUCK OFF! -
I disagree with both programs.dhdawg said:
So a socialist program wasn't intended to be socialist. Got itSledog said:Medicare became socialist it wasn't intended to be. People pay in all their working days and then are supposed to get insurance when they hit 65. Until politicians begin buying votes by awarding benefits to people that never paid. Sounds just like social security. Of course welfare etc. is the biggest vote purchaser and we all know who the buyers are.
It's the assholes that ruin everything. I'm for neither program because politicians are assholes and I don't like the government having control over really important sectors of my life. Of course we have many here that want to sit on their ass and demand a portion of the sweat from others brows and to that I say FUCK OFF!
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Can you only spend the money you've put into the program?Sledog said:
I disagree with both programs.dhdawg said:
So a socialist program wasn't intended to be socialist. Got itSledog said:Medicare became socialist it wasn't intended to be. People pay in all their working days and then are supposed to get insurance when they hit 65. Until politicians begin buying votes by awarding benefits to people that never paid. Sounds just like social security. Of course welfare etc. is the biggest vote purchaser and we all know who the buyers are.
It's the assholes that ruin everything. I'm for neither program because politicians are assholes and I don't like the government having control over really important sectors of my life. Of course we have many here that want to sit on their ass and demand a portion of the sweat from others brows and to that I say FUCK OFF!
But tell me how paying your own way is socialist? -
No but it seems other people can spend your money. Which was not the original intent.UWhuskytskeet said:
Can you only spend the money you've put into the program?Sledog said:
I disagree with both programs.dhdawg said:
So a socialist program wasn't intended to be socialist. Got itSledog said:Medicare became socialist it wasn't intended to be. People pay in all their working days and then are supposed to get insurance when they hit 65. Until politicians begin buying votes by awarding benefits to people that never paid. Sounds just like social security. Of course welfare etc. is the biggest vote purchaser and we all know who the buyers are.
It's the assholes that ruin everything. I'm for neither program because politicians are assholes and I don't like the government having control over really important sectors of my life. Of course we have many here that want to sit on their ass and demand a portion of the sweat from others brows and to that I say FUCK OFF!
But tell me how paying your own way is socialist? -
So the 19 million people that were eligible immediately after signing it into law were spending their own money?Sledog said:
No but it seems other people can spend your money. Which was not the original intent.UWhuskytskeet said:
Can you only spend the money you've put into the program?Sledog said:
I disagree with both programs.dhdawg said:
So a socialist program wasn't intended to be socialist. Got itSledog said:Medicare became socialist it wasn't intended to be. People pay in all their working days and then are supposed to get insurance when they hit 65. Until politicians begin buying votes by awarding benefits to people that never paid. Sounds just like social security. Of course welfare etc. is the biggest vote purchaser and we all know who the buyers are.
It's the assholes that ruin everything. I'm for neither program because politicians are assholes and I don't like the government having control over really important sectors of my life. Of course we have many here that want to sit on their ass and demand a portion of the sweat from others brows and to that I say FUCK OFF!
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Demwits care about words. Trump cares about actions. Trump is winning.
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Its not over for death panelsThomasFremont said:
Eventually whatever we? do is going to require them
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We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said:
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They absolutely need to exist to get rid of these hordes of genetic defecting substance abusers and morbidly obese people. They've already proven that as you get fatter your DNA code changes to when you reproduce you're popping out a slob.ThomasFremont said: -
Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
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So, what private insurance does all the time?Sledog said:
We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said:
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My mom told us kids many times to kill her when she lost it. But instead she spent her last 5 years locked up in memory care. Strong physically with no idea who or where she was. It's hard as Coach Pete would sayPurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
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That simply cant be true.Mosster47 said:
They absolutely need to exist to get rid of these hordes of genetic defecting substance abusers and morbidly obese people. They've already proven that as you get fatter your DNA code changes to when you reproduce you're popping out a slob.ThomasFremont said: -
It's shitty until one of us need it. What if you give the option of a $200k payout and hospice, or continued end of life care? I guess grandma would get a little extra pressure to die, but everyone else wins.PurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
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This is the absolute truth. Consuming 30-40% of your lifetime health expense in the last 30-60 days of your life is completely fucking outrageous. It's nothing more than hospitals preying on the families of the patient.PurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
But we have to be pussies who want to make it more difficult to off yourself while we cry about health care expense at the same time. That's why we can't have nice things.
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Poont one out. No one I know has been turned down for a life saving procedure by their private insurance.ThomasFremont said:
So, what private insurance does all the time?Sledog said:
We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said: -
Well then I guess it never happens.Sledog said:
Poont one out. No one I know has been turned down for a life saving procedure by their private insurance.ThomasFremont said:
So, what private insurance does all the time?Sledog said:
We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said: -
So you have nothing therefore I am wrong. You're smart.ThomasFremont said:
Well then I guess it never happens.Sledog said:
Poont one out. No one I know has been turned down for a life saving procedure by their private insurance.ThomasFremont said:
So, what private insurance does all the time?Sledog said:
We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said: -
Yeah, that's what he said, you fucking retard.Sledog said:
So you have nothing therefore I am wrong. You're smart.ThomasFremont said:
Well then I guess it never happens.Sledog said:
Poont one out. No one I know has been turned down for a life saving procedure by their private insurance.ThomasFremont said:
So, what private insurance does all the time?Sledog said:
We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said:
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Thank youSledog said:
So you have nothing therefore I am wrong. You're smart.ThomasFremont said:
Well then I guess it never happens.Sledog said:
Poont one out. No one I know has been turned down for a life saving procedure by their private insurance.ThomasFremont said:
So, what private insurance does all the time?Sledog said:
We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said:
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Nah, I like people to be able to make their own financial decisions and purchase more healthcare to extend their life if they can afford it. You know, like how it works in basically every other service system we have. Buy shitty insurance that'll pull the plug on you or buy gold plated insurance at your own risk.ThomasFremont said:
Well then I guess it never happens.Sledog said:
Poont one out. No one I know has been turned down for a life saving procedure by their private insurance.ThomasFremont said:
So, what private insurance does all the time?Sledog said:
We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said: -
I guess I don't have an issue with long-term care facilities - but the outrageous shit they do in the last 3 days of life is insane. Granny has been clueless for years, you really think she gives a shit about extending another week?RaceBannon said:
My mom told us kids many times to kill her when she lost it. But instead she spent her last 5 years locked up in memory care. Strong physically with no idea who or where she was. It's hard as Coach Pete would sayPurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
Really nice hospice facilities would be a better use of funds. The Throbber lost close relatives in the last few years - and those hospice people are saints. The dignity provided is much better than the medical billing machine.
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Well all of your vast experience seems to have a gap in any knowledge of the actual world. But then those basement walls are thick. Much like your skull.dflea said:
Yeah, that's what he said, you fucking retard.Sledog said:
So you have nothing therefore I am wrong. You're smart.ThomasFremont said:
Well then I guess it never happens.Sledog said:
Poont one out. No one I know has been turned down for a life saving procedure by their private insurance.ThomasFremont said:
So, what private insurance does all the time?Sledog said:
We have them. My friends father need a major operation. The hospital had to wait for approval. The powers that be had to see he was high enough on the "quality of life" index before performing the surgery. True story.ThomasFremont said:
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You could put an end to that if you abolished the programs that subsidized it. Make people contribute tax free health savings accounts during their working years and allow that money to be invested during their working years and then when they die allow that money to be treated as an asset they can pass onto their family.dflea said:
This is the absolute truth. Consuming 30-40% of your lifetime health expense in the last 30-60 days of your life is completely fucking outrageous. It's nothing more than hospitals preying on the families of the patient.PurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
But we have to be pussies who want to make it more difficult to off yourself while we cry about health care expense at the same time. That's why we can't have nice things.
What incentive now does someone or some family member have in not spending everything they can for healthcare at the end of a love one's life? None, if it's covered by Medicare and private insurance.
Don't blame the Hospitals. The families are choosing to do this because there is no incentive for them not to.
