Consumer confidence at an 18 year high
Comments
-
USMChawk said:
Will I still be surprised if the criteria of what constitutes ‘unemployment’ is standardized?2001400ex said:
Is unemployment an economic performance indicator? Why don't you compare unemployment under Obama to Reagan. You might be surprised.Southerndawg said:
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, it lasted approximately 18 months, ending in October of 2009. It lasted just two months longer than the recession under Reagan, prior to the exploding economy he delivered. The post recession economic performance under Obama was astonishingly worse, in fact the worst in nearly 80 years.ThomasFremont said:
When in your mind did the recession end?Southerndawg said:
The recession was over long before we were told the "new normal" was 1% to 2% growth. Obama regulated the economy to a halt. In a sense Obama did set up Trump quite nicely. All Trump had to do to unleash the economy is the opposite of his predecessor.ThomasFremont said:
It’s almost like the recession was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression...Southerndawg said:
They're embarrassing themselves. Classical lust for power driving the narrative bus into the ridiculous ditch.USMChawk said:
The economy under Obama experienced the slowest recovery from recession since the great depression. As the article points out Q4 2015 and Q1 2016 saw growth rates of 0.90% and 0.80%. Pathetic. Obama regulations strangled the economy. Trump is elected, he proceeds to deregulate and cut taxes, and now, last quarter's growth rate was 4.2%. That's all Trump and Republicans in both chambers of congress. #resistlmfao
Not to mention that a recession started under Reagan. The last recession to start under a Democrat president was under Carter.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/5/obamas-fudged-unemployment-numbers/The Department of Labor reported Friday that total nonfarm payroll employment increased by a net 114,000 in September. This poor showing — it reflects a 28,000 drop from the previous month — should have resulted in unemployment increasing by a tenth of a percent. Instead, it dropped by 0.3 percent to 7.8 percent. Call that Chicago-style math.
Is this guy retarded? How would a net increase of 114,000 result in unemployment? It doesn't matter that August had more gains, they both increased.
This is your evidence? Jesus. -
What exactly was I lying about again?RaceBannon said:
slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2009/05/bill_clintons_classy_moment.html2001400ex said:
Is unemployment an economic performance indicator? Why don't you compare unemployment under Obama to Reagan. You might be surprised.Southerndawg said:
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, it lasted approximately 18 months, ending in October of 2009. It lasted just two months longer than the recession under Reagan, prior to the exploding economy he delivered. The post recession economic performance under Obama was astonishingly worse, in fact the worst in nearly 80 years.ThomasFremont said:
When in your mind did the recession end?Southerndawg said:
The recession was over long before we were told the "new normal" was 1% to 2% growth. Obama regulated the economy to a halt. In a sense Obama did set up Trump quite nicely. All Trump had to do to unleash the economy is the opposite of his predecessor.ThomasFremont said:
It’s almost like the recession was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression...Southerndawg said:
They're embarrassing themselves. Classical lust for power driving the narrative bus into the ridiculous ditch.USMChawk said:
The economy under Obama experienced the slowest recovery from recession since the great depression. As the article points out Q4 2015 and Q1 2016 saw growth rates of 0.90% and 0.80%. Pathetic. Obama regulations strangled the economy. Trump is elected, he proceeds to deregulate and cut taxes, and now, last quarter's growth rate was 4.2%. That's all Trump and Republicans in both chambers of congress. #resistlmfao
Not to mention that a recession started under Reagan. The last recession to start under a Democrat president was under Carter.
Nebraska classy Bill
Lying little hondo -
I'm just glad U6 unemployment is irrelevant again.UWhuskytskeet said:
Good boy!USMChawk said:
Will I still be surprised if the criteria of what constitutes ‘unemployment’ is standardized?2001400ex said:
Is unemployment an economic performance indicator? Why don't you compare unemployment under Obama to Reagan. You might be surprised.Southerndawg said:
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, it lasted approximately 18 months, ending in October of 2009. It lasted just two months longer than the recession under Reagan, prior to the exploding economy he delivered. The post recession economic performance under Obama was astonishingly worse, in fact the worst in nearly 80 years.ThomasFremont said:
When in your mind did the recession end?Southerndawg said:
The recession was over long before we were told the "new normal" was 1% to 2% growth. Obama regulated the economy to a halt. In a sense Obama did set up Trump quite nicely. All Trump had to do to unleash the economy is the opposite of his predecessor.ThomasFremont said:
It’s almost like the recession was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression...Southerndawg said:
They're embarrassing themselves. Classical lust for power driving the narrative bus into the ridiculous ditch.USMChawk said:
The economy under Obama experienced the slowest recovery from recession since the great depression. As the article points out Q4 2015 and Q1 2016 saw growth rates of 0.90% and 0.80%. Pathetic. Obama regulations strangled the economy. Trump is elected, he proceeds to deregulate and cut taxes, and now, last quarter's growth rate was 4.2%. That's all Trump and Republicans in both chambers of congress. #resistlmfao
Not to mention that a recession started under Reagan. The last recession to start under a Democrat president was under Carter.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/5/obamas-fudged-unemployment-numbers/
Sep. 7, 2012
“Unemployment rate only dropped because more people are out of labor force & have stopped looking for work. Not a real recovery, phony numbers”
Oct. 19, 2012
"7.8% unemployment number is a complete fraud as evidenced by the jobless claims number released yesterday. Real unemployment is at least 15%”
Aug. 11, 2013
“We can rev up this economy like it should be, not with false numbers like 7.4 percent unemployment. But with real numbers.”
May 31, 2014
“Unemployment is a totally phony number.”
June 16, 2015
“Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it.”
Aug. 11, 2015
“Then you hear there's a 5.4 percent unemployment. It's really — if you add it up, it's probably 40 percent if you think about it.”
Aug. 30, 2015
“They show those phony statistics where we are 5.4 percent unemployment. The real number, I saw a number that could be 42 percent, believe it or not.”
Sept. 28, 2015
“I hear 5.3 percent unemployment, that is the biggest joke there is in this country. That number is so false.”
Sept. 29, 2015
“The number is not reflective. I have seen numbers of 24 percent. I saw a number of 42 percent unemployment. … That number is so false.”
Oct. 9, 2015
“They say 5.3 percent employment. The number is probably 32 percent.”
Oct. 11, 2015
“Nobody has jobs. … It is not a real economy. It is a phony set of numbers. They cooked the books.”
Jan. 17, 2016
“Look again, you hear these phony jobs numbers? People that gave up looking for jobs? They are considered employed.”
Feb. 9, 2016
“Don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 percent unemployment. As high as 35 — as in fact, I heard recently, 42 percent.”
March 12, 2016
“The numbers are phony. These are all phony numbers. Numbers given to politicians to look good. These are phony numbers.”
May 24, 2016
“You hear a 5 percent unemployment rate. It's such a phony number. That number was put in for presidents and for politicians so that they look good to the people.”
July 7, 2016
“The phony 5 percent numbers that we hear about with the unemployment.”
Aug. 8, 2016
“The 5 percent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in modern politics.”
Nov. 4, 2016
“The terrible jobs report that just came out … you can see phony numbers, 5 percent.”
Dec. 8, 2016
“The unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction.” -
Abd as you predicted, cricketsMosster47 said:
I've probably asked this question a thousand times in the last decade and have never received an answer. Not even a talk around, just end of conversation.2001400ex said:
What regulations did Obama put in place that caused harm to the economy? What regulations did Trump overturn to unleash the economy?Southerndawg said:
The recession was over long before we were told the "new normal" was 1% to 2% growth. Obama regulated the economy to a halt. In a sense Obama did set up Trump quite nicely. All Trump had to do to unleash the economy is the opposite of his predecessor.ThomasFremont said:
It’s almost like the recession was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression...Southerndawg said:
They're embarrassing themselves. Classical lust for power driving the narrative bus into the ridiculous ditch.USMChawk said:
The economy under Obama experienced the slowest recovery from recession since the great depression. As the article points out Q4 2015 and Q1 2016 saw growth rates of 0.90% and 0.80%. Pathetic. Obama regulations strangled the economy. Trump is elected, he proceeds to deregulate and cut taxes, and now, last quarter's growth rate was 4.2%. That's all Trump and Republicans in both chambers of congress. #resistlmfao -
I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days! -
Leaving TPP was one of the dumbest things he's done yet. That agreement was completely in the US's favor.
-
We didn't leave NAFTA and TPP was dead long before he was even elected.RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days! -
dhdawg said:
We didn't leave NAFTA and TPP was dead long before he was even elected.RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days!
Rewrite!UWhuskytskeet said:Leaving TPP was one of the dumbest things he's done yet. That agreement was completely in the US's favor.
-
Race struggling with reading comprehension again.RaceBannon said:dhdawg said:
We didn't leave NAFTA and TPP was dead long before he was even elected.RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days!
Rewrite!UWhuskytskeet said:Leaving TPP was one of the dumbest things he's done yet. That agreement was completely in the US's favor.
-
It wasn't dead imo. We were going to set the rules for trade in Asia, instead the 11 other countries are moving on without us.RaceBannon said:dhdawg said:
We didn't leave NAFTA and TPP was dead long before he was even elected.RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days!
Rewrite!UWhuskytskeet said:Leaving TPP was one of the dumbest things he's done yet. That agreement was completely in the US's favor.
The dichotomy of complaining about China's influence while pulling out of TPP was hilarious. -
TPP was dead but leaving it was the dumbest thing ever
I read just fine -
Exactly what regulations were gutted that's helping the economy?RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days! -
As I wrote earlier we all know your schtick. Ask for a link then move the goalposts2001400ex said:
Exactly what regulations were gutted that's helping the economy?RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days!
Fuck off is too good for you -
I can finally cover my house in asbestos.2001400ex said:
Exactly what regulations were gutted that's helping the economy?RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days! -
I'm hearing the world's in flames soon. Good move.UWhuskytskeet said:
I can finally cover my house in asbestos.2001400ex said:
Exactly what regulations were gutted that's helping the economy?RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days! -
Lead paint works betterUWhuskytskeet said:
I can finally cover my house in asbestos.2001400ex said:
Exactly what regulations were gutted that's helping the economy?RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days! -
And burn coal in your yard for electricity.UWhuskytskeet said:
I can finally cover my house in asbestos.2001400ex said:
Exactly what regulations were gutted that's helping the economy?RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days! -
And that right there tells you why our Country is so fucked up right now in a nutshell.TurdBuffer said:
I used to disagree and dislike a fair amount of @RaceBannon's posts.RaceBannon said:
slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2009/05/bill_clintons_classy_moment.html2001400ex said:
Is unemployment an economic performance indicator? Why don't you compare unemployment under Obama to Reagan. You might be surprised.Southerndawg said:
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, it lasted approximately 18 months, ending in October of 2009. It lasted just two months longer than the recession under Reagan, prior to the exploding economy he delivered. The post recession economic performance under Obama was astonishingly worse, in fact the worst in nearly 80 years.ThomasFremont said:
When in your mind did the recession end?Southerndawg said:
The recession was over long before we were told the "new normal" was 1% to 2% growth. Obama regulated the economy to a halt. In a sense Obama did set up Trump quite nicely. All Trump had to do to unleash the economy is the opposite of his predecessor.ThomasFremont said:
It’s almost like the recession was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression...Southerndawg said:
They're embarrassing themselves. Classical lust for power driving the narrative bus into the ridiculous ditch.USMChawk said:
The economy under Obama experienced the slowest recovery from recession since the great depression. As the article points out Q4 2015 and Q1 2016 saw growth rates of 0.90% and 0.80%. Pathetic. Obama regulations strangled the economy. Trump is elected, he proceeds to deregulate and cut taxes, and now, last quarter's growth rate was 4.2%. That's all Trump and Republicans in both chambers of congress. #resistlmfao
Not to mention that a recession started under Reagan. The last recession to start under a Democrat president was under Carter.
Nebraska classy Bill
Lying little hondo
Then I encountered Hondo in the Tug. And nothing can unite enemies faster. -
It’s very well possible that is when new HS grads that didn’t go to college were, or should have been added to the numbers???UWhuskytskeet said:USMChawk said:
Will I still be surprised if the criteria of what constitutes ‘unemployment’ is standardized?2001400ex said:
Is unemployment an economic performance indicator? Why don't you compare unemployment under Obama to Reagan. You might be surprised.Southerndawg said:
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, it lasted approximately 18 months, ending in October of 2009. It lasted just two months longer than the recession under Reagan, prior to the exploding economy he delivered. The post recession economic performance under Obama was astonishingly worse, in fact the worst in nearly 80 years.ThomasFremont said:
When in your mind did the recession end?Southerndawg said:
The recession was over long before we were told the "new normal" was 1% to 2% growth. Obama regulated the economy to a halt. In a sense Obama did set up Trump quite nicely. All Trump had to do to unleash the economy is the opposite of his predecessor.ThomasFremont said:
It’s almost like the recession was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression...Southerndawg said:
They're embarrassing themselves. Classical lust for power driving the narrative bus into the ridiculous ditch.USMChawk said:
The economy under Obama experienced the slowest recovery from recession since the great depression. As the article points out Q4 2015 and Q1 2016 saw growth rates of 0.90% and 0.80%. Pathetic. Obama regulations strangled the economy. Trump is elected, he proceeds to deregulate and cut taxes, and now, last quarter's growth rate was 4.2%. That's all Trump and Republicans in both chambers of congress. #resistlmfao
Not to mention that a recession started under Reagan. The last recession to start under a Democrat president was under Carter.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/5/obamas-fudged-unemployment-numbers/The Department of Labor reported Friday that total nonfarm payroll employment increased by a net 114,000 in September. This poor showing — it reflects a 28,000 drop from the previous month — should have resulted in unemployment increasing by a tenth of a percent. Instead, it dropped by 0.3 percent to 7.8 percent. Call that Chicago-style math.
Is this guy retarded? How would a net increase of 114,000 result in unemployment? It doesn't matter that August had more gains, they both increased.
This is your evidence? Jesus. -
I missed this post. Yes when you post bullshit links that have nothing to do with the point. I'm gonna call bullshit. But you, sir, never post an original thought or anything you can support. This one should be easy. The laws are all public record so it should be easy for you to point specific laws.RaceBannon said:
As I wrote earlier we all know your schtick. Ask for a link then move the goalposts2001400ex said:
Exactly what regulations were gutted that's helping the economy?RaceBannon said:I just pleased as punch with the progress Trump has made
We've gone from the left telling us he is a moron who will screw everything up to a guy who has kept the wonderful Obama economy humming
I guess LEAVING TPP and NAFTA and gutting regulations and giving us a tax cut and corps a tax cut really was a good thing since we're just as good off now as we were under Obama who didn't do shit other than runing health insurance
Happy days!
Fuck off is too good for you -
Whoa. Did you just criticize Trump for something??!!!!RaceBannon said:TPP was dead but leaving it was the dumbest thing ever
I read just fine
Whoops never mind. Should have known better. -
Hey thanks for cooging up the board today, Hondo can't fuck it up all by himself all the timesalemcoog said:
Whoa. Did you just criticize Trump for something??!!!!RaceBannon said:TPP was dead but leaving it was the dumbest thing ever
I read just fine
Whoops never mind. Should have known better.
