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This week's higher lever history: Stalin vs Hitler

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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,943 Founders Club
    edited August 2018

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Replacing the Tsarist system with communism and beating back the western funded white armies was good.

    Stalin did Holodomor FYI.
    Lenin better than Stalin POTD.

    But you're correct re: Ukrainian genocide.

  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 36,917 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Replacing the Tsarist system with communism and beating back the western funded white armies was good.

    Stalin did Holodomor FYI.
    Yawn. You sound poor.
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Replacing the Tsarist system with communism and beating back the western funded white armies was good.

    Stalin did Holodomor FYI.
    Lenin better than Stalin POTD.

    But you're correct re: Ukrainian genocide.

    Retribution for the pogroms. Both sides bad etc.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,395 Swaye's Wigwam

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Replacing the Tsarist system with communism and beating back the western funded white armies was good.

    Stalin did Holodomor FYI.
    Lenin better than Stalin POTD.

    But you're correct re: Ukrainian genocide.

    He's doing a great job of proving my point.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,474 Founders Club
    Socialism or communism require force and dead people and even after that Das Capital flees the country and you can't get a roll of fucking toilet paper

    You don't hear folks saying stupid shit like Real Nazism has never been tried and if we just do it without killing the Jews it would be great
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,943 Founders Club

    Socialism or communism require force and dead people and even after that Das Capital flees the country and you can't get a roll of fucking toilet paper

    You don't hear folks saying stupid shit like Real Nazism has never been tried and if we just do it without killing the Jews it would be great

    It cannot and will not work every. That level of power in the hands of the state will always become corrupt.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,943 Founders Club
    You can never be too late. I will have a listen to this today.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,873 Standard Supporter

    Socialism and communism should be just as reviled as Nazis.

    And yet

    Mind boggling how much the fellow traveling left in the US was in denial about Stalin in the 1930s. Hitler in the 1930s was not much a villain at all compared to Uncle Joe.
    Not so mind boggling when you consider even now the left is in denial.
    True, but Bernie (as much of a cook as I view him to be) ain't exactly Stalin or Mao as much of a false equivalence that OBK might draw.
    But most of his supporters are classic useful idiots. I had a long discussion with one on Saturday night. Most naive, child-like hypocrite I've ever talked to.

    Shockingly ironic statements throughout. Fuck both Communism and Socialism.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,087 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2018
    Stalin out scored Hitler 25,000,000 (conservative estimate) to 6,000,000 in the end. Not counting war casualties.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,526 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Stalin out scored Hitler 25,000,000 (conservative estimate) to 6,000,000 in the end. Not counting war casualties.

    Chairman Mao chuckles at these warm up acts.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter
    "Norm, my family is from Russian, we're Russian Jews"
    "More like Rushin' at Jews. Biggest anti-semite I ever seen."
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,943 Founders Club

    "Norm, my family is from Russian, we're Russian Jews"
    "More like Rushin' at Jews. Biggest anti-semite I ever seen."

  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,664 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2018

    Socialism or communism require force and dead people and even after that Das Capital flees the country and you can't get a roll of fucking toilet paper

    You don't hear folks saying stupid shit like Real Nazism has never been tried and if we just do it without killing the Jews it would be great

    It cannot and will not work every. That level of power in the hands of the state will always become corrupt.
    This applies to any political ruling party. When the politicians become professional for life job holders we? or anyone else is screwed.
    Stalin, Hitler, Tojo, Lenin, Idi Amin, Most of Iran and Iraq governing bodies, and this list could go on forever if I was smart enough to remember all of them.

    Here in the US our leaders just steal everyone's money killing them slowly
    Oh yeah Stalin wins the numbers game here
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Many (not me) say the same about Hillary.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 36,917 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Many (not me) say the same about Hillary.
    The first part definitely. She never had the power to accomplish the second part.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,943 Founders Club
    LebamDawg said:

    Socialism or communism require force and dead people and even after that Das Capital flees the country and you can't get a roll of fucking toilet paper

    You don't hear folks saying stupid shit like Real Nazism has never been tried and if we just do it without killing the Jews it would be great

    It cannot and will not work every. That level of power in the hands of the state will always become corrupt.
    This applies to any political ruling party. When the politicians become professional for life job holders we? or anyone else is screwed.
    Stalin, Hitler, Tojo, Lenin, Idi Amin, Most of Iran and Iraq governing bodies, and this list could go on forever if I was smart enough to remember all of them.

    Here in the US our leaders just steal everyone's money killing them slowly
    Oh yeah Stalin wins the numbers game here
    Hitler was an outsider in 1933 who had never held public office previously.

    #draintheweimarswamp
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
    PurpleJ said:

    Baseman said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Many (not me) say the same about Hillary.
    The first part definitely. She never had the power to accomplish the second part.


    (NT)
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