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This week's higher lever history: Stalin vs Hitler
YellowSnow
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Excellent TL; DR piece here in the debate of who was worse: Hitler or Stalin? I tend to lean towards Nazi Germany in this one. Stalin won the first half- i.e., 1933- 39 - in a blow out. But once the Germans got their reads down on foreign soil after 1939 it wasn't close.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2011/01/27/hitler-vs-stalin-who-was-worse/
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2011/01/27/hitler-vs-stalin-who-was-worse/
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Stalin, better hair
Hitler, better overall style - unis were dope -
It's getting to be like Nazi Germany around here
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DerekJohnson said:
Careful
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Same as it ever was.DerekJohnson said:It's getting to be like Nazi Germany around here
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So the big difference between Stalin's terror and Hitler's is that it was (a) mostly targeted at USSR citizens and (b) geared towards political objectives- e.g., emlimination of political enemies, forced collectivization of agriculture. The Nazis on the other hand had very specific plans to liquidate 30 million or more Slavs for Lebensraum. What the Soviets did in East Germany and the future Warsaw Pact countries when they won was relatively mild in comparison to what the Nazi's would have done had they been victorious.
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The correct answer is Mao. Highest body count, assisted and enabled multiple other genocides in SE Asia, and given the chance would have wiped out "inferior" peoples.
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Not a fair contest. China will always win any sort of raw numbers analysis.UW_Doog_Bot said:The correct answer is Mao. Highest body count, assisted and enabled multiple other genocides in SE Asia, and given the chance would have wiped out "inferior" peoples.
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Factor in the exchange rate. The Chinese and SE Asians are a little people. Takes more effort to genocide on the larger Euros.YellowSnow said:
Not a fair contest. China will always win any sort of raw numbers analysis.UW_Doog_Bot said:The correct answer is Mao. Highest body count, assisted and enabled multiple other genocides in SE Asia, and given the chance would have wiped out "inferior" peoples.
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Socialism and communism should be just as reviled as Nazis.
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Mind boggling how much the fellow traveling left in the US was in denial about Stalin in the 1930s. Hitler in the 1930s was not much a villain at all compared to Uncle Joe.RaceBannon said:Socialism and communism should be just as reviled as Nazis.
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