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big 4 or any public accounting job is fucking horrible, hours are long and fucking stupid work. pay is not great either.creepycoug said:
I hear what you're saying. Maybe, on the margin, the very margin, that may be true. But if you attend any school with an accredited accounting program and get decent grades, you will have a shot at the big four. Remember, we are not talking about the very elite kids coming out of academia. We are talking about accounting. The vast majority of these kids will be sheep heading off to the audit side. The firms need bodies.WeakarmCobra said:
I am talking about placement, not the quality of the education. UW kids get more looks than a typical WSU or Seattle U. I do think bunch a UW accounting students are retardedcreepycoug said:
We're normally on the same page; on this one you are dead wrong. The big four accounting firms recruit accounting kids from all schools with accounting departments. It's one of the areas of professional life that really does not place a lot of, or really any, emphasis on academic pedigree. Whether you studied accounting at Oregon, Oregon State, Washington State, Seattle Pacific, Seattle University, Zaga, Western, or the University of Washington… It simply does not matter. I don't make many categorical claims. I'm making one on this one. To suggest anything different than what I've said on this is to misinform. Fortunately, I don't think this forum is the place where high school kids trying to figure out where they're going to college spent a lot of time lurking.WeakarmCobra said:
Wow didn’t think that Duck refugee was the place for all the UW education hawt talk, but let me put my 2 cents in. UW accounting program is legit in getting kids jobs with the all the public accounting programs, that shiet does matter when comes to to getting placedcreepycoug said:
It says that there are only small groups of schools, very limited in number and accessibility, that actually offer undergraduates something different and, arguably at least, better. It also says that the educational experiences at most large state schools are interchangeable for 99% of the kids attending.haie said:
Pretty much anyone could get into UW as recent as the early 2000's, yes. It's an education mall to be sure.RaceBannon said:
To be fair, so was UWhaie said:
Seattle campus. Spent most of my time in odegaard and denny. Papa Gates was the speaker at our graduation.ApostleofGrief said:haie said:
Makes zero sense seeing as I'm from Camas but OK!ApostleofGrief said:
UW Bothellhaie said:
UW class of 2010. I have a right to be here. All the Lane CC grads have moved on to the Timbers. Maybe you should too.oregonblitzkrieg said:You and the Apostle went to Central together, substitute the beavs for the true school of Washington and you've got your PNW 4.
Anybody who goes to those little branch schools like UW Bothell is not a proper elitist in my book. You probably went there or UW Tacoma. That's the way I remember it. A glorified community college.haie said:
Makes zero sense seeing as I'm from Camas but OK!ApostleofGrief said:
UW Bothellhaie said:
UW class of 2010. I have a right to be here. All the Lane CC grads have moved on to the Timbers. Maybe you should too.oregonblitzkrieg said:You and the Apostle went to Central together, substitute the beavs for the true school of Washington and you've got your PNW 4.
Central is a glorified high school. HtH
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Still, what does that say about WAzzu Oregon and BennyU?
My kids' HS cohorts who attended UW are generally chasing nursing or accounting degrees. The ones who wash out of those get Public Health degrees. The kids chasing those at any other P12 school are going to wind up in exactly the same place. Nobody cares where an accountant or a nurse went to school.
And the kids majoring in Classics, Philosophy or Art History at Stanford, Yale, Pomona, Amherst, Vassar or Wellesley, and their ilk, are going to be recruited on campus to work at consulting and other 'think tank' firms that UW kids struggle to get to every bit as much as the Oregon, WSU and ASU kids do.
One area where UW flexes muscle at an elite level is Comp. Sci., which to me is really glorified trade school. A lot of $$ went into it at UW for obvious reasons, a small number of kids get to take advantage of it, and more and more it's becoming a commodity skill that you can learn through a variety of other means. One day AI will overrun it in any event. But people flocking to get into that department have helped UW's selectivity numbers. It bears little meaning or effect on the overall student population, which looks and feels a lot like the one with which I went to school.
Moreover, what I've said tends to be true all over the country.
Consider, too, that a substantial majority of elite academic institutions don't have undergrad she business schools. You can't major in accounting at any high end liberal arts college, Stanford, the Ivy League, Caltech, MIT, Rice, Duke, Georgetown, etc. You study Econ or you study math. Both are more rigorous than getting an undergraduate degree in accounting. Accounting is a little more vocational than the academic purists prefer.
So, again, equating any undergraduate accounting program with academic prestige is a little nonsensical.
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So we are all Ivy Leaguers?oregonblitzkrieg said:Ivy league is all about who you know, what color your skin is, and/or if you've got the money to bribe your way in. Qualifications are secondary. If that weren't the case, how would a retard like George W. Bush ever get in to Yale? How would the Clinton whore get into Stanford? Chelsea is no fucking genius. If the public university education system is shit (which it is) Ivy league is shit with perfume. If you're an establishment buttfuck, a cultural 'icon' or the semen of a billionaire Saudi prince, you're in. Makes it easier to get a cush jerb once you graduate, but it certainly doesn't make you any smarter than a UO, a UW or a WSU grad.
