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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    HRYK

    And Oregon and Washington run off too

    Rome did a couple centuries ago. Not that hard if you aren't wasting billions on a train from Fresno to Bakersfield
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club
    I'm confused. Are the fire fighters running out of water in S Cal when dealing with these fires?

    Hell hath no furry like So Cal fire season which will always happen when you have heat, fuel and wind. Don't see what water coming from North to South has to do with it. Both of my childhood homes came with in a c hair of burning to the ground in the 2003 and 2007 Cedar and Witch Fires.

    @RaceBannon is right about Washington/Oregon water going to CA at some point. It's inevitable.
  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    I'm confused. Are the fire fighters running out of water in S Cal when dealing with these fires?

    No, Trump is just a fucking moron.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-trump-fires-20180806-story.html#

    Their demands have nothing to do with the availability of water for firefighting. Fire agencies haven’t been complaining about a lack of water, especially water “diverted” to the Pacific. Major reservoirs are near the worst fire zones; the Carr fire is near Lake Shasta and Whiskeytown Lake and the Mendocino Complex fire is near Clear Lake. All are at or near their historical levels.

    “There have been no issues getting water from them,” Scott McLean, a spokesman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, or Cal Fire, told me.

    Cal Fire, which is managing the wildfire battle, has deployed some 200 water tenders to the fire zone and is dispatching air tankers as flying conditions permit.

    “The idea that there isn’t enough water is the craziest thing in the world,” says Peter Gleick, president emeritus of the Pacific Institute for Studies in Development, Environment, and Security in Oakland. “There’s absolutely no shortage.”

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    It is policies enacted by Kali and Slick Willy that stopped the removal of dead undergrowth in national forest and other government and state controlled lands. Lots of fuel for the fires to spread rapidly and burn large areas. It used to be removed on a schedule and burned off. But those "unroads" and closed down public lands now just burn like the tinder they are.
    So you are telling me you know better how to manage a forest than mother nature.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    God. 70 percent of the fucking earth is water and we're worrying about not enough water.

    In 100 years people are going to laugh at us.

    We've accomplished a lot of stuff but man, using ocean water in a feasible process is one of the major missing ingredients.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    God. 70 percent of the fucking earth is water and we're worrying about not enough water.

    In 100 years people are going to laugh at us.

    We've accomplished a lot of stuff but man, using ocean water in a feasible process is one of the major missing ingredients.

    Water isn't the issue. That's the point.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    God. 70 percent of the fucking earth is water and we're worrying about not enough water.

    In 100 years people are going to laugh at us.

    We've accomplished a lot of stuff but man, using ocean water in a feasible process is one of the major missing ingredients.

    California already has around 20 desalination plants. Problems is that it takes huge amounts of energy and then you are left with a shit load of salt.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    The mountain run off from the pacific states is all the water we could ever use

    God forbid someone thinks outside the box rather than just whining about it and jacking water rates
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter

    The mountain run off from the pacific states is all the water we could ever use

    God forbid someone thinks outside the box rather than just whining about it and jacking water rates

    It's all about control.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The mountain run off from the pacific states is all the water we could ever use

    God forbid someone thinks outside the box rather than just whining about it and jacking water rates

    We need to stop diverting the water to the Pacific ocean.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    2001400ex said:

    The mountain run off from the pacific states is all the water we could ever use

    God forbid someone thinks outside the box rather than just whining about it and jacking water rates

    We need to stop diverting the water to the Pacific ocean.
    We call that the Colorado River.


  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    The mountain run off from the pacific states is all the water we could ever use

    God forbid someone thinks outside the box rather than just whining about it and jacking water rates

    We need to stop diverting the water to the Pacific ocean.
    We call that the Colorado River.


    There is a set of 2 casinos, one in Arizona, one in Cali, in Yuma. About 5 feet apart. That used to be under water back in the day.
  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    dflea said:



    The mountain run off from the pacific states is all the water we could ever use

    God forbid someone thinks outside the box rather than just whining about it and jacking water rates

    That runoff is our industrial powerplant and means for salmon and steelhead to get to the ocean.

    Enjoy your sun and fires and keep your fucking hands off our water, Sunny Jim.

    Fucking Californians. Even the ones who haven't moved here are looking to fuck up our gig.
    They fucked it up long ago ...
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club

    The mountain run off from the pacific states is all the water we could ever use

    God forbid someone thinks outside the box rather than just whining about it and jacking water rates

    Or just don't live in a desert and complain about lack of water.
    I guess it is about control

    40 million people live here. Funny how "progressives" are so fucking non progressive
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    dflea said:



    The mountain run off from the pacific states is all the water we could ever use

    God forbid someone thinks outside the box rather than just whining about it and jacking water rates

    That runoff is our industrial powerplant and means for salmon and steelhead to get to the ocean.

    Enjoy your sun and fires and keep your fucking hands off our water, Sunny Jim.

    Fucking Californians. Even the ones who haven't moved here are looking to fuck up our gig.
    Most of the water melts and heads for the ocean. Besides dams are being torn down now by progressives. Go fuck yourself
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