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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

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    SyphilisButterSyphilisButter Member Posts: 221
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    Browning won't get drafted and Miller is 1st-2nd round easily if healthy
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    BreadBread Member Posts: 3,970
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    Browning is a guy you invite to camp after the draft to discuss his options in Canada

    I always forget how the CFL has a smaller field and slower pace then NFL. Perfect fit for browning.
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,474
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    Squirt said:

    Just letting it sink it... if there were consistently that many NFL draftees per class, the roster could get the point to where there would be 30-40 NFL players on it at any given point.


    Automatic chin for use of Vince gif.
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,705
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    dnc said:

    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

    4 maybe 5 draft picks from 2015 IMO and only one likely 1st-2nd rounder. Probably similar outcome for 2016.

    And those are classes that rated much higher than 2014 and classes that CP had far more time to put together.
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    dnc said:

    With eight redshirt seniors left (and a redshirt junior), the story of Pete's first class is getting close to being complete.

    Still at UW
    Gaines
    McGary
    McIntosh
    String Johnson
    Bowman
    James
    Sample
    Sosebee

    Left as true juniors: Drafted
    Baker
    Jones

    Left as redshirt junior: Drafted
    Vea

    Exhausted eligibility: Drafted
    Pettis
    Dissly

    Exhausted eligibility: Not drafted
    Vizcaino

    Transferred: Other schools
    KJCS
    Dotson
    Washington (dismissed)
    Lenius (Dickey)
    D Lewis (dismissed)

    Transferred: Prison
    Haie Dogg (dismissed) and Darren G

    Medically retired
    Turner
    B Lewis
    Bryant

    Grayshirted and still here
    Burleson

    Summary: Lots of dreck at the bottom as you would expect from a transition class. The top of the class is incredible for a class rated 38 in the composite though. So far you have one first round pick, three second round picks, and a fourth rounder (and one of the second rounders would have been a first but for an injury incurred after finishing his play at UW). Then you have McGary, Gaines, Johnson and McIntosh who all have a decent shot at worst of getting drafted this year. When it's all said and done you're probably looking at 8 to 9 draft picks with probably at least 5 1st or 2nd day picks (assuming McGary goes top 3 rounds which he should).

    I know we've discussed this class a lot but I haven't seen anyone sum it all for a couple years. The staff has gotten a highly impressive return on this class, which should make us? feel good about the future of the consistently higher rated classes they have gotten going forward from there.

    Still at UW
    Gaines
    McGary
    McIntosh
    String Johnson
    Bowman
    James
    Sample
    Sosebee

    Left as true juniors: Drafted
    Baker
    Jones

    Left as redshirt junior: Drafted
    Vea

    Exhausted eligibility: Drafted
    Pettis
    Dissly

    Exhausted eligibility: Not drafted
    Vizcaino

    Transferred: Other schools
    KJCS
    Dotson
    Washington (dismissed)
    Lenius (Dickey)
    D Lewis (dismissed)

    Transferred: Prison
    Haie Dogg (dismissed) and Darren G

    Medically retired
    Turner
    B Lewis
    Bryant

    Grayshirted and still here
    Burleson
    dnc said:

    With eight redshirt seniors left (and a redshirt junior), the story of Pete's first class is getting close to being complete.

    Still at UW
    Gaines
    McGary
    McIntosh
    String Johnson
    Bowman
    James
    Sample
    Sosebee

    Left as true juniors: Drafted
    Baker
    Jones

    Left as redshirt junior: Drafted
    Vea

    Exhausted eligibility: Drafted
    Pettis
    Dissly

    Exhausted eligibility: Not drafted
    Vizcaino

    Transferred: Other schools
    KJCS
    Dotson
    Washington (dismissed)
    Lenius (Dickey)
    D Lewis (dismissed)

    Transferred: Prison
    Haie Dogg (dismissed) and Darren G

    Medically retired
    Turner
    B Lewis
    Bryant

    Grayshirted and still here
    Burleson

    Summary: Lots of dreck at the bottom as you would expect from a transition class. The top of the class is incredible for a class rated 38 in the composite though. So far you have one first round pick, three second round picks, and a fourth rounder (and one of the second rounders would have been a first but for an injury incurred after finishing his play at UW). Then you have McGary, Gaines, Johnson and McIntosh who all have a decent shot at worst of getting drafted this year. When it's all said and done you're probably looking at 8 to 9 draft picks with probably at least 5 1st or 2nd day picks (assuming McGary goes top 3 rounds which he should).

    I know we've discussed this class a lot but I haven't seen anyone sum it all for a couple years. The staff has gotten a highly impressive return on this class, which should make us? feel good about the future of the consistently higher rated classes they have gotten going forward from there.

    McGary seems like a lock for the top 3 rounds with an outside shot at round 1. Gaines seems like a lock to get picked. So that would be 5 1st or 2nd day picks and 7 draft picks total from this class. If McIntosh or String Johnson sneak into the draft that total continues to move up.

    As recruiting has leveled up it's probably unrealistic to think we'll do much better at the top of these last couple classes (though getting more than one first round pick out of them doesn't seem too doogish). The big difference will be that the middle of these classes should be a lot more productive going forward.

    And then there's the next two classes. Holy shit.
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    dnc said:

    With eight redshirt seniors left (and a redshirt junior), the story of Pete's first class is getting close to being complete.

    Still at UW
    Gaines
    McGary
    McIntosh
    String Johnson
    Bowman
    James
    Sample
    Sosebee

    Left as true juniors: Drafted
    Baker
    Jones

    Left as redshirt junior: Drafted
    Vea

    Exhausted eligibility: Drafted
    Pettis
    Dissly

    Exhausted eligibility: Not drafted
    Vizcaino

    Transferred: Other schools
    KJCS
    Dotson
    Washington (dismissed)
    Lenius (Dickey)
    D Lewis (dismissed)

    Transferred: Prison
    Haie Dogg (dismissed) and Darren G

    Medically retired
    Turner
    B Lewis
    Bryant

    Grayshirted and still here
    Burleson

    Summary: Lots of dreck at the bottom as you would expect from a transition class. The top of the class is incredible for a class rated 38 in the composite though. So far you have one first round pick, three second round picks, and a fourth rounder (and one of the second rounders would have been a first but for an injury incurred after finishing his play at UW). Then you have McGary, Gaines, Johnson and McIntosh who all have a decent shot at worst of getting drafted this year. When it's all said and done you're probably looking at 8 to 9 draft picks with probably at least 5 1st or 2nd day picks (assuming McGary goes top 3 rounds which he should).

    I know we've discussed this class a lot but I haven't seen anyone sum it all for a couple years. The staff has gotten a highly impressive return on this class, which should make us? feel good about the future of the consistently higher rated classes they have gotten going forward from there.

    Still at UW
    Gaines
    McGary
    McIntosh
    String Johnson
    Bowman
    James
    Sample
    Sosebee

    Left as true juniors: Drafted
    Baker
    Jones

    Left as redshirt junior: Drafted
    Vea

    Exhausted eligibility: Drafted
    Pettis
    Dissly

    Exhausted eligibility: Not drafted
    Vizcaino

    Transferred: Other schools
    KJCS
    Dotson
    Washington (dismissed)
    Lenius (Dickey)
    D Lewis (dismissed)

    Transferred: Prison
    Haie Dogg (dismissed) and Darren G

    Medically retired
    Turner
    B Lewis
    Bryant

    Grayshirted and still here
    Burleson
    dnc said:

    With eight redshirt seniors left (and a redshirt junior), the story of Pete's first class is getting close to being complete.

    Still at UW
    Gaines
    McGary
    McIntosh
    String Johnson
    Bowman
    James
    Sample
    Sosebee

    Left as true juniors: Drafted
    Baker
    Jones

    Left as redshirt junior: Drafted
    Vea

    Exhausted eligibility: Drafted
    Pettis
    Dissly

    Exhausted eligibility: Not drafted
    Vizcaino

    Transferred: Other schools
    KJCS
    Dotson
    Washington (dismissed)
    Lenius (Dickey)
    D Lewis (dismissed)

    Transferred: Prison
    Haie Dogg (dismissed) and Darren G

    Medically retired
    Turner
    B Lewis
    Bryant

    Grayshirted and still here
    Burleson

    Summary: Lots of dreck at the bottom as you would expect from a transition class. The top of the class is incredible for a class rated 38 in the composite though. So far you have one first round pick, three second round picks, and a fourth rounder (and one of the second rounders would have been a first but for an injury incurred after finishing his play at UW). Then you have McGary, Gaines, Johnson and McIntosh who all have a decent shot at worst of getting drafted this year. When it's all said and done you're probably looking at 8 to 9 draft picks with probably at least 5 1st or 2nd day picks (assuming McGary goes top 3 rounds which he should).

    I know we've discussed this class a lot but I haven't seen anyone sum it all for a couple years. The staff has gotten a highly impressive return on this class, which should make us? feel good about the future of the consistently higher rated classes they have gotten going forward from there.

    McGary seems like a lock for the top 3 rounds with an outside shot at round 1. Gaines seems like a lock to get picked. So that would be 5 1st or 2nd day picks and 7 draft picks total from this class. If McIntosh or String Johnson sneak into the draft that total continues to move up.

    As recruiting has leveled up it's probably unrealistic to think we'll do much better at the top of these last couple classes (though getting more than one first round pick out of them doesn't seem too doogish). The big difference will be that the middle of these classes should be a lot more productive going forward.

    And then there's the next two classes. Holy shit.
    Can't downvote your own poast even when you're a dumbfuck who left out Drew Sample.

    So it will be 8 picks, at minimum.
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    dnc said:

    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

    Revisiting this:

    2015 class

    Adams - Still a first rounder if his health allows it
    Miller - still think he gets picked, won't be day two
    Joyner - RIP
    Browning - nope
    Gaskin - will get picked
    BBK - sneaks into day 2 IMO
    Tevis - probably not

    2016 class

    Murphy - first rounder
    Rapp - first or second rounder
    Wattenburg - still think he gets drafted
    Levi - definitely think he gets drafted

    Add:

    2015
    Hilbers - Gonna say yes. Biggest shock in the class?
    Beavers - outside shot, needs to stay healthy and a big step forward
    Pounds - no
    Baccellia - no
    Warren - no
    Carty - lol
    Clark - no
    Roberts - no (biggest disappointment in the class?)
    Scrempos - no

    2016
    Harris - will get drafted
    Kizer (greyshirt) - probably yes because WTEU
    Fuller - think he gets drafted late
    Benning - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Wellington - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Myles Bryant* - probably getting picked
    McGrew - not likely
    Pleasant - probably not but possible
    Chin - Chinconceivable

    So it definitely looks like 2014 was better than 2015 or 2016, with 2016 probably going down as Pete's worst class at UW. And it will produce 6 or 7 draft picks. (I'll take 2015 over 2016 simply because you got four year starters at QB, RB and LT even though 2016 is probably a little better from a draft perspective).
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,705
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    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.

    dnc said:

    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

    4 maybe 5 draft picks from 2015 IMO and only one likely 1st-2nd rounder. Probably similar outcome for 2016.

    And those are classes that rated much higher than 2014 and classes that CP had far more time to put together.
    One season later, sticking with this take.

    CP v.1 benefited from an all-time great (and lucky) transition class that we couldn't expect to duplicate even with more time to scout, build relationships, and put together a well-balanced class.

    Unless we leveled up our recruiting. Which started in 2017 and really kicked into high gear in 2018 and 2019.

    CP v.2 beta version will be released in 2019 led by Eason, Bryant, Ahmed, Jones, Taylor, Molden, Kirkland and the 2018 kids coming off redshirts.
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.

    dnc said:

    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

    4 maybe 5 draft picks from 2015 IMO and only one likely 1st-2nd rounder. Probably similar outcome for 2016.

    And those are classes that rated much higher than 2014 and classes that CP had far more time to put together.
    One season later, sticking with this take.

    CP v.1 benefited from an all-time great (and lucky) transition class that we couldn't expect to duplicate even with more time to scout, build relationships, and put together a well-balanced class.

    Unless we leveled up our recruiting. Which started in 2017 and really kicked into high gear in 2018 and 2019.

    CP v.2 beta version will be released in 2019 led by Eason, Bryant, Ahmed, Jones, Taylor, Molden, Kirkland and the 2018 kids coming off redshirts.
    Yep, your skepticism was well placed.
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    NorwegianHuskyNorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,422
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    Browning won't get drafted and Miller is 1st-2nd round easily if healthy

    Did you mean to type Miller? He might have the measurables the NFL is looking for (other than weight), but he's a day 3 pick.
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    dnc said:

    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

    Revisiting this:

    2015 class

    Adams - Still a first rounder if his health allows it
    Miller - still think he gets picked, won't be day two
    Joyner - RIP
    Browning - nope
    Gaskin - will get picked
    BBK - sneaks into day 2 IMO
    Tevis - probably not

    2016 class

    Murphy - first rounder
    Rapp - first or second rounder
    Wattenburg - still think he gets drafted
    Levi - definitely think he gets drafted

    Add:

    2015
    Hilbers - Gonna say yes. Biggest shock in the class?
    Beavers - outside shot, needs to stay healthy and a big step forward
    Pounds - no
    Baccellia - no
    Warren - no
    Carty - lol
    Clark - no
    Roberts - no (biggest disappointment in the class?)
    Scrempos - no

    2016
    Harris - will get drafted
    Kizer (greyshirt) - probably yes because WTEU
    Fuller - think he gets drafted late
    Benning - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Wellington - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Myles Bryant* - probably getting picked
    McGrew - not likely
    Pleasant - probably not but possible
    Chin - Chinconceivable

    So it definitely looks like 2014 was better than 2015 or 2016, with 2016 probably going down as Pete's worst class at UW. And it will produce 6 or 7 draft picks. (I'll take 2015 over 2016 simply because you got four year starters at QB, RB and LT even though 2016 is probably a little better from a draft perspective).
    I think you need to factor in that in 2015 we took 25 guys and in 2016 we only took 17. From a hit rate % 2016 has a crazy # of draftees.
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    dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,220
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    The correlation between this class’ recruiting rankings and their Jesse Collier outcome is probably very high.

    So, basically, the idea is that when Pete has even decent recruits, they generally end up being big time.

    Now ready for some good news?

    Every player we got in 2018 was rated higher than the 5th best player we got in 2014.

    I repeat, the lowest rated player in our 2018 class would’ve been 5th in 2018. Think about that.

    It bodes well.

    We? are going to fuck some people up.
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    dnc said:

    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

    Revisiting this:

    2015 class

    Adams - Still a first rounder if his health allows it
    Miller - still think he gets picked, won't be day two
    Joyner - RIP
    Browning - nope
    Gaskin - will get picked
    BBK - sneaks into day 2 IMO
    Tevis - probably not

    2016 class

    Murphy - first rounder
    Rapp - first or second rounder
    Wattenburg - still think he gets drafted
    Levi - definitely think he gets drafted

    Add:

    2015
    Hilbers - Gonna say yes. Biggest shock in the class?
    Beavers - outside shot, needs to stay healthy and a big step forward
    Pounds - no
    Baccellia - no
    Warren - no
    Carty - lol
    Clark - no
    Roberts - no (biggest disappointment in the class?)
    Scrempos - no

    2016
    Harris - will get drafted
    Kizer (greyshirt) - probably yes because WTEU
    Fuller - think he gets drafted late
    Benning - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Wellington - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Myles Bryant* - probably getting picked
    McGrew - not likely
    Pleasant - probably not but possible
    Chin - Chinconceivable

    So it definitely looks like 2014 was better than 2015 or 2016, with 2016 probably going down as Pete's worst class at UW. And it will produce 6 or 7 draft picks. (I'll take 2015 over 2016 simply because you got four year starters at QB, RB and LT even though 2016 is probably a little better from a draft perspective).
    I think you need to factor in that in 2015 we took 25 guys and in 2016 we only took 17. From a hit rate % 2016 has a crazy # of draftees.
    Excellent point
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    DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
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    The correlation between this class’ recruiting rankings and their Jesse Collier outcome is probably very high.

    So, basically, the idea is that when Pete has even decent recruits, they generally end up being big time.

    Now ready for some good news?

    Every player we got in 2018 was rated higher than the 5th best player we got in 2014.

    I repeat, the lowest rated player in our 2018 class would’ve been 5th in 2018. Think about that.

    It bodes well.

    Updating this trend for @Dennis_DeYoung :

    Every player we got in 2019 was rated higher than the 4th best player we got in 2014 (except Tuputala who was criminally underrated, and Tim Horn who is a kicker).

    I repeat, the lowest rated player in our 2019 class would have been 4th in 2014.

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    dflea said:

    The correlation between this class’ recruiting rankings and their Jesse Collier outcome is probably very high.

    So, basically, the idea is that when Pete has even decent recruits, they generally end up being big time.

    Now ready for some good news?

    Every player we got in 2018 was rated higher than the 5th best player we got in 2014.

    I repeat, the lowest rated player in our 2018 class would’ve been 5th in 2018. Think about that.

    It bodes well.

    We? are going to fuck some people up.
    Excellent Point
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    BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
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    dnc said:

    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

    Revisiting this:

    2015 class

    Adams - Still a first rounder if his health allows it
    Miller - still think he gets picked, won't be day two
    Joyner - RIP
    Browning - nope
    Gaskin - will get picked
    BBK - sneaks into day 2 IMO
    Tevis - probably not

    2016 class

    Murphy - first rounder
    Rapp - first or second rounder
    Wattenburg - still think he gets drafted
    Levi - definitely think he gets drafted

    Add:

    2015
    Hilbers - Gonna say yes. Biggest shock in the class?
    Beavers - outside shot, needs to stay healthy and a big step forward
    Pounds - no
    Baccellia - no
    Warren - no
    Carty - lol
    Clark - no
    Roberts - no (biggest disappointment in the class?)
    Scrempos - no

    2016
    Harris - will get drafted
    Kizer (greyshirt) - probably yes because WTEU
    Fuller - think he gets drafted late
    Benning - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Wellington - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Myles Bryant* - probably getting picked
    McGrew - not likely
    Pleasant - probably not but possible
    Chin - Chinconceivable

    So it definitely looks like 2014 was better than 2015 or 2016, with 2016 probably going down as Pete's worst class at UW. And it will produce 6 or 7 draft picks. (I'll take 2015 over 2016 simply because you got four year starters at QB, RB and LT even though 2016 is probably a little better from a draft perspective).
    Even if Adams plays healthy all of 2019, his prior injury history will keep him out of the first two rounds.
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    Baseman said:

    dnc said:

    Too much Sosebee.

    But still, holy shit. If we’ve done this well with this class, the mind boggles of where we’ll be once our good classes take root.

    I mostly agree but juat to temper the enthusiasm slightly there was likely a large heaping of good luck involved in the outcomes for 2014 kids since 2015 and 2016 aren't going to come anywhere close.
    2015 isn't going to be as good but will probably have 6 or 7 draft picks when all is said and done, that's not a terrible class.

    Adams - likely first rounder
    Miller - who knows but wouldn't shock me to see him day two
    Joyner - will get drafted
    Browning - probably late round
    Gaskin - 4th or 5th round maybe?
    BBK - first rounder!!! (jk)
    Tevis - will have a career

    2016 is still really early to judge. After two seasons on campus you wouldn't have predicted Pettis to get picked, let alone 2nd round. Definitely wouldn't have expected Dissly to get picked either. LIPO. But here's where we're at right now:

    Murphy - high early entry guy
    Rapp - high early entry guy
    Wattenburg - probably drafted
    Levi - probably drafted

    Revisiting this:

    2015 class

    Adams - Still a first rounder if his health allows it
    Miller - still think he gets picked, won't be day two
    Joyner - RIP
    Browning - nope
    Gaskin - will get picked
    BBK - sneaks into day 2 IMO
    Tevis - probably not

    2016 class

    Murphy - first rounder
    Rapp - first or second rounder
    Wattenburg - still think he gets drafted
    Levi - definitely think he gets drafted

    Add:

    2015
    Hilbers - Gonna say yes. Biggest shock in the class?
    Beavers - outside shot, needs to stay healthy and a big step forward
    Pounds - no
    Baccellia - no
    Warren - no
    Carty - lol
    Clark - no
    Roberts - no (biggest disappointment in the class?)
    Scrempos - no

    2016
    Harris - will get drafted
    Kizer (greyshirt) - probably yes because WTEU
    Fuller - think he gets drafted late
    Benning - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Wellington - outside shot, needs a big step forward
    Myles Bryant* - probably getting picked
    McGrew - not likely
    Pleasant - probably not but possible
    Chin - Chinconceivable

    So it definitely looks like 2014 was better than 2015 or 2016, with 2016 probably going down as Pete's worst class at UW. And it will produce 6 or 7 draft picks. (I'll take 2015 over 2016 simply because you got four year starters at QB, RB and LT even though 2016 is probably a little better from a draft perspective).
    Even if Adams plays healthy all of 2019, his prior injury history will keep him out of the first two rounds.
    Naw basey, they have the best drugs in the NFL. Shits big business so as long as they aren’t “PED’s” or narcotics, they’ll find a way to get a few good years outta him before he’s permently in a wheel chair.

    If he’s all conference I call 2nd if not 1st round. All American is 1st for sure. This is me not knowing what next years OL draft class will look like.
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