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trump calling for federal voter ID laws

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Baphomet said:

    I'd be in favor of a federal ID. Use it for everything:

    - voting
    - owning weapons
    - driving
    - grazing your cattle on public land
    - tracking your health information

    The militia movement and their christian fanatic membership foresaw this day many many years ago. Next, the UN will be invading (or the Russians, in Trump's case).

    If you can't see that Trump is "The Beast" from the book of Revelations, I can't help you.

    What's really funny is Mexico requires them to have voter I.D.
    Do you trust their election results better than ours?
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732


    Someone definitely got fired or was relegated to squash match jobber for the rest of their career because of that table not breaking
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,610 Standard Supporter

    Let’s stop voter fraud (a non-issue) and ignore election security (an actual issue). We’ve become the land of the dumb.

    Voter fraud is quite real. More votes cast via voter fraud than election security.
  • Baphomet
    Baphomet Member Posts: 1,511
    edited August 2018
    Maybe we can give Haliburton a no bid contract to make it all more secure.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Sledog said:

    Let’s stop voter fraud (a non-issue) and ignore election security (an actual issue). We’ve become the land of the dumb.

    Voter fraud is quite real. More votes cast via voter fraud than election security.
    I’m convinced
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    2001400ex said:

    Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.

    I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.

    (It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)

    However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.

    Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.

    As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.

    Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
    Are you really that dumb?
    CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.

    You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".

    For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
    Reasonable.

    There's no room for this kind of shit here.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sledog said:

    Let’s stop voter fraud (a non-issue) and ignore election security (an actual issue). We’ve become the land of the dumb.

    Voter fraud is quite real. More votes cast via voter fraud than election security.
    There's no fucking way you could know this, so watching you pretend to is comical.

    What a butthole you are.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,569 Founders Club
    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.

    I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.

    (It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)

    However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.

    Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.

    As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.

    Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
    Are you really that dumb?
    CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.

    You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".

    For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
    Reasonable.

    There's no room for this kind of shit here.
    Fuck you!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,558 Standard Supporter

    Apparently we also need an ID to buy groceries

    You need an ID to buy beer for the purpose of verifying legal age.

    You need an ID to drive a car legally.

    Why wouldn’t you need an ID to verify one is legal to vote?

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Apparently we also need an ID to buy groceries

    You need an ID to buy beer for the purpose of verifying legal age.

    You need an ID to drive a car legally.

    Why wouldn’t you need an ID to verify one is legal to vote?

    By the courts, it's determined to be a poll tax.