Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.

It's Ngata over for Joe!!!

dnc
dnc Member Posts: 56,855
edited July 2018 in The Fisching Hole (Recruiting)
For real.

My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.

But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.

But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.

UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.

Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW

Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.

Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.

As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.

Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet.
· Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
«13456789

Comments

  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    dnc said:

    For real.

    My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.

    But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.

    But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.

    UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.

    Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
    Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
    Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
    Where will he spend more time on between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
    Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
    Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW

    Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.

    Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.

    As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.

    Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet.

    I agree with this. Was just too discouraged to say it. On the down side, other than Gee Scott it's looking like a tough pull for WR next year. Ngata not committing isn't disasterous in isolation because of our young WR talent but two poor years in a row starts putting you in a Strausser OL hole. No one wants to revisit that.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    dnc said:

    For real.

    My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.

    But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.

    But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.

    UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.

    Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
    Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
    Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
    Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
    Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
    Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW

    Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.

    Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.

    As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.

    Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet.

    DPOTW
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    insinceredawg said:

    dnc said:

    For real.

    My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.

    But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.

    But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.

    UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.

    Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
    Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
    Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
    Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
    Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
    Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW

    Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.

    Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.

    As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.

    Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet.

    DPOTW
    Cool so I'll put you down for agreeing, good talk
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    dnc said:

    For real.

    My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.

    But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.

    But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.

    UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.

    Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
    Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
    Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
    Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
    Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
    Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW

    Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.

    Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.

    As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.

    Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet.

    Fuck your optimism. He doesn't want to be with us. The only way he ends up at uw is if Clemson cools on him. Not happening.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,559 Founders Club
    He gone.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    It’s fucking over ... only a DOOG would think it isn’t
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,707 Founders Club
    We’re so slow strategy that we don’t even want fast strategy Christian immigrants, Clemson out church schooled us? and it’s not even close.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter