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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,244 Founders Club

    HRYK

    Something the democrats told us for about 80 years of communism there

    I just have to say I laugh out loud every time these twinks get all patriotic and shit.

    It's like OBK rooting for WASHINGTON

    In fairness to Trump, the foreign policy establishment has done a shitty jerb vis-a-vis Russia since the 90s. NATO should have never been expanded into any of the former Soviet Republics. Furthermore, we should have just let the Russians have their way with Ukraine. Ukraine has never really been a nation independent from Russia in the first place.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club

    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.

    Still can't argue the facts

    Because they are on my side

    All you got is




    Nothing
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club

    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.

    Still can't argue the facts

    Because they are on my side

    All you got is




    Nothing
    Here’s a fact for you: the election was hacked and Trump has done nothing to secure it against further tampering. Today he admitted that our IC is right about Russia.



    There is no evidence a single vote changed. From your man Mueller and Rosenstein

    No American involved with the indictment

    We knew they were trying when Obama gave the order to stand down and not retaliate

    Like I said

    Nothing
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.

    Still can't argue the facts

    Because they are on my side

    All you got is




    Nothing
    Here’s a fact for you: the election was hacked and Trump has done nothing to secure it against further tampering. Today he admitted that our IC is right about Russia.



    There is no evidence a single vote changed. From your man Mueller and Rosenstein

    No American involved with the indictment

    We knew they were trying when Obama gave the order to stand down and not retaliate

    Like I said

    Nothing
    Did he say a vote was changed?
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    All politicians should be praying to the Lord every day that they have Trump in office.

    They can get away with 100 percent of their bullshit and no one will ever notice.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Fuck off kid

    The struggle is real.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,066 Founders Club

    HRYK

    Something the democrats told us for about 80 years of communism there

    I just have to say I laugh out loud every time these twinks get all patriotic and shit.

    It's like OBK rooting for WASHINGTON

    In fairness to Trump, the foreign policy establishment has done a shitty jerb vis-a-vis Russia since the 90s. NATO should have never been expanded into any of the former Soviet Republics. Furthermore, we should have just let the Russians have their way with Ukraine. Ukraine has never really been a nation independent from Russia in the first place.
    East Germany disagrees. Also, Ukraine gave up their nukes because of our guarantee of national sovereignty...
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.

    Still can't argue the facts

    Because they are on my side

    All you got is




    Nothing
    Here’s a fact for you: the election was hacked and Trump has done nothing to secure it against further tampering. Today he admitted that our IC is right about Russia.



    There is no evidence a single vote changed. From your man Mueller and Rosenstein

    No American involved with the indictment

    We knew they were trying when Obama gave the order to stand down and not retaliate

    Like I said

    Nothing
    Voters being purged (lulz) from the rolls to lower turnout among non-Trump voters, and mounting evidence of voting machine tampering. Nothing indeed.

    But you’d rather blame Obama than deal with the problem.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.

    Still can't argue the facts

    Because they are on my side

    All you got is




    Nothing
    Here’s a fact for you: the election was hacked and Trump has done nothing to secure it against further tampering. Today he admitted that our IC is right about Russia.



    There is no evidence a single vote changed. From your man Mueller and Rosenstein

    No American involved with the indictment

    We knew they were trying when Obama gave the order to stand down and not retaliate

    Like I said

    Nothing
    Voters being purged (lulz) from the rolls to lower turnout among non-Trump voters, and mounting evidence of voting machine tampering. Nothing indeed.

    But you’d rather blame Obama than deal with the problem.
    I had work in San Diego for a month and crawled up to Santa Barbara afterwards?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,244 Founders Club

    HRYK

    Something the democrats told us for about 80 years of communism there

    I just have to say I laugh out loud every time these twinks get all patriotic and shit.

    It's like OBK rooting for WASHINGTON

    In fairness to Trump, the foreign policy establishment has done a shitty jerb vis-a-vis Russia since the 90s. NATO should have never been expanded into any of the former Soviet Republics. Furthermore, we should have just let the Russians have their way with Ukraine. Ukraine has never really been a nation independent from Russia in the first place.
    East Germany disagrees. Also, Ukraine gave up their nukes because of our guarantee of national sovereignty...
    East Germany was not a Soviet Republic. Nor was Poland and the rest of the Warsaw Pact. Satellites yes, but never part of the Soviet Union. Soviets lost the Cold War and rightly we absorbed those countries into NATA.

    Ukraine was an independent country for like a year in 1918- 19, prior to 1992 and has been a part of Russia for many centuries. Nuke deal or not, Ukraine is part of the Russian sphere and not the West, and they are not a hill worth dying for.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter

    I was told we pressed the reset button with Russia, no? Staff?


    She said if you'll pay me 140 million I'll approve you uranium purchase. Just push the button to say yes.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter

    Trump just needs Russia to wait until he doesn't have to run again


    I'll give you everything you want comrade! I'll be more flexible and we can explore new positions after the election.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Wat the hell are we talking about again?

    I got sick of dealing with the city and my contractor and just went to the bar.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,066 Founders Club

    HRYK

    Something the democrats told us for about 80 years of communism there

    I just have to say I laugh out loud every time these twinks get all patriotic and shit.

    It's like OBK rooting for WASHINGTON

    In fairness to Trump, the foreign policy establishment has done a shitty jerb vis-a-vis Russia since the 90s. NATO should have never been expanded into any of the former Soviet Republics. Furthermore, we should have just let the Russians have their way with Ukraine. Ukraine has never really been a nation independent from Russia in the first place.
    East Germany disagrees. Also, Ukraine gave up their nukes because of our guarantee of national sovereignty...
    East Germany was not a Soviet Republic. Nor was Poland and the rest of the Warsaw Pact. Satellites yes, but never part of the Soviet Union. Soviets lost the Cold War and rightly we absorbed those countries into NATA.

    Ukraine was an independent country for like a year in 1918- 19, prior to 1992 and has been a part of Russia for many centuries. Nuke deal or not, Ukraine is part of the Russian sphere and not the West, and they are not a hill worth dying for.
    Ah I see your poont now and it's a fair one.

    The current world order more or less relies on national sovereignty as guaranteed(more or less by us) and Russia is playing a dangerous game. What's the best way to counter/prevent that?

    This is the one place where I think Trump past tense had an significant advantage over Putin, Kim, et al. He's just unstable enough that he might fire some nukes. Guys playing the long game don't want that. Crazy always wins in a game of chicken with a rational agent.

  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Finally someone with the courage to ask; what about Hillary?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    HRYK

    Something the democrats told us for about 80 years of communism there

    I just have to say I laugh out loud every time these twinks get all patriotic and shit.

    It's like OBK rooting for WASHINGTON

    In fairness to Trump, the foreign policy establishment has done a shitty jerb vis-a-vis Russia since the 90s. NATO should have never been expanded into any of the former Soviet Republics. Furthermore, we should have just let the Russians have their way with Ukraine. Ukraine has never really been a nation independent from Russia in the first place.
    East Germany disagrees. Also, Ukraine gave up their nukes because of our guarantee of national sovereignty...
    East Germany was not a Soviet Republic. Nor was Poland and the rest of the Warsaw Pact. Satellites yes, but never part of the Soviet Union. Soviets lost the Cold War and rightly we absorbed those countries into NATA.

    Ukraine was an independent country for like a year in 1918- 19, prior to 1992 and has been a part of Russia for many centuries. Nuke deal or not, Ukraine is part of the Russian sphere and not the West, and they are not a hill worth dying for.
    Not worth dying for? Perhaps. Still very sad indictment of western failure to push its frontier. Ukraine could be part of the EU over time, if given the protection, and not forsaken to the clutches of tyranny and despotism. Trump’s fecklessness yesterday signed Ukraine’s death warrant.

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are NATO
    Members. We go to war there, correct?
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254

    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.

    Still can't argue the facts

    Because they are on my side

    All you got is




    Nothing
    Here’s a fact for you: the election was hacked and Trump has done nothing to secure it against further tampering. Today he admitted that our IC is right about Russia.



    There is no evidence a single vote changed. From your man Mueller and Rosenstein

    No American involved with the indictment

    We knew they were trying when Obama gave the order to stand down and not retaliate

    Like I said

    Nothing
    Voters being purged (lulz) from the rolls to lower turnout among non-Trump voters, and mounting evidence of voting machine tampering. Nothing indeed.

    But you’d rather blame Obama than deal with the problem.
    How is Trump not dealing with the problem?

    Who has been tougher on Russia with sanctions, Trump or Obama?

    What is it you want Trump to do, or are you desperately clinging to the hope that somehow the election will be overturned?

    Other than indictments that lack any proof for phishing and buying facebook ads, Mueller has been unable to show evidence that the Russians had any effect on the outcome of the election.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Dude61 said:

    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.

    Still can't argue the facts

    Because they are on my side

    All you got is




    Nothing
    Here’s a fact for you: the election was hacked and Trump has done nothing to secure it against further tampering. Today he admitted that our IC is right about Russia.



    There is no evidence a single vote changed. From your man Mueller and Rosenstein

    No American involved with the indictment

    We knew they were trying when Obama gave the order to stand down and not retaliate

    Like I said

    Nothing
    Voters being purged (lulz) from the rolls to lower turnout among non-Trump voters, and mounting evidence of voting machine tampering. Nothing indeed.

    But you’d rather blame Obama than deal with the problem.
    How is Trump not dealing with the problem?

    Who has been tougher on Russia with sanctions, Trump or Obama?

    What is it you want Trump to do, or are you desperately clinging to the hope that somehow the election will be overturned?

    Other than indictments that lack any proof for phishing and buying facebook ads, Mueller has been unable to show evidence that the Russians had any effect on the outcome of the election.
    Trump loves the poorly educated potd!
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,244 Founders Club

    HRYK

    Something the democrats told us for about 80 years of communism there

    I just have to say I laugh out loud every time these twinks get all patriotic and shit.

    It's like OBK rooting for WASHINGTON

    In fairness to Trump, the foreign policy establishment has done a shitty jerb vis-a-vis Russia since the 90s. NATO should have never been expanded into any of the former Soviet Republics. Furthermore, we should have just let the Russians have their way with Ukraine. Ukraine has never really been a nation independent from Russia in the first place.
    East Germany disagrees. Also, Ukraine gave up their nukes because of our guarantee of national sovereignty...
    East Germany was not a Soviet Republic. Nor was Poland and the rest of the Warsaw Pact. Satellites yes, but never part of the Soviet Union. Soviets lost the Cold War and rightly we absorbed those countries into NATA.

    Ukraine was an independent country for like a year in 1918- 19, prior to 1992 and has been a part of Russia for many centuries. Nuke deal or not, Ukraine is part of the Russian sphere and not the West, and they are not a hill worth dying for.
    Not worth dying for? Perhaps. Still very sad indictment of western failure to push its frontier. Ukraine could be part of the EU over time, if given the protection, and not forsaken to the clutches of tyranny and despotism. Trump’s fecklessness yesterday signed Ukraine’s death warrant.

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are NATO
    Members. We go to war there, correct?
    Yes, the Baltic countries are all NATO and we are treaty bound to defend them.

    The West absorbed almost all of the Warsaw Pact into it's sphere. This was a pretty YUGE win. Why do we need to go all the way to the Russian border? That fight was never worth picking.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,066 Founders Club

    HRYK

    Something the democrats told us for about 80 years of communism there

    I just have to say I laugh out loud every time these twinks get all patriotic and shit.

    It's like OBK rooting for WASHINGTON

    In fairness to Trump, the foreign policy establishment has done a shitty jerb vis-a-vis Russia since the 90s. NATO should have never been expanded into any of the former Soviet Republics. Furthermore, we should have just let the Russians have their way with Ukraine. Ukraine has never really been a nation independent from Russia in the first place.
    East Germany disagrees. Also, Ukraine gave up their nukes because of our guarantee of national sovereignty...
    East Germany was not a Soviet Republic. Nor was Poland and the rest of the Warsaw Pact. Satellites yes, but never part of the Soviet Union. Soviets lost the Cold War and rightly we absorbed those countries into NATA.

    Ukraine was an independent country for like a year in 1918- 19, prior to 1992 and has been a part of Russia for many centuries. Nuke deal or not, Ukraine is part of the Russian sphere and not the West, and they are not a hill worth dying for.
    Not worth dying for? Perhaps. Still very sad indictment of western failure to push its frontier. Ukraine could be part of the EU over time, if given the protection, and not forsaken to the clutches of tyranny and despotism. Trump’s fecklessness yesterday signed Ukraine’s death warrant.

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are NATO
    Members. We go to war there, correct?
    That was already done in 2014.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I long for the good old days when the intelligence community gave Colin Powell a presentation to take to the UN to make the case for kicking Iraqs ass and the democrats went nuts and said it was all bullshit, the intelligence community is just making shit up to support the invasion. And they were right. Now I guess we want the intelligence community to give us a reach around. Because Trump and shit.

    Hurts @FrankChurchDWAG imo
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Dude61 said:

    Flip flop. Backpedal. Beta.

    And you all eat it up.

    Still can't argue the facts

    Because they are on my side

    All you got is




    Nothing
    Here’s a fact for you: the election was hacked and Trump has done nothing to secure it against further tampering. Today he admitted that our IC is right about Russia.



    There is no evidence a single vote changed. From your man Mueller and Rosenstein

    No American involved with the indictment

    We knew they were trying when Obama gave the order to stand down and not retaliate

    Like I said

    Nothing
    Voters being purged (lulz) from the rolls to lower turnout among non-Trump voters, and mounting evidence of voting machine tampering. Nothing indeed.

    But you’d rather blame Obama than deal with the problem.
    How is Trump not dealing with the problem?

    Who has been tougher on Russia with sanctions, Trump or Obama?

    What is it you want Trump to do, or are you desperately clinging to the hope that somehow the election will be overturned?

    Other than indictments that lack any proof for phishing and buying facebook ads, Mueller has been unable to show evidence that the Russians had any effect on the outcome of the election.
    Trump removed sanctions on Russia from the Obama era. He also talks about giving further concessions (return to G8, tacit support for Crimea, reinstating expelled “diplomats”). Are you fucking retarded?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    HRYK

    Something the democrats told us for about 80 years of communism there

    I just have to say I laugh out loud every time these twinks get all patriotic and shit.

    It's like OBK rooting for WASHINGTON

    In fairness to Trump, the foreign policy establishment has done a shitty jerb vis-a-vis Russia since the 90s. NATO should have never been expanded into any of the former Soviet Republics. Furthermore, we should have just let the Russians have their way with Ukraine. Ukraine has never really been a nation independent from Russia in the first place.
    East Germany disagrees. Also, Ukraine gave up their nukes because of our guarantee of national sovereignty...
    East Germany was not a Soviet Republic. Nor was Poland and the rest of the Warsaw Pact. Satellites yes, but never part of the Soviet Union. Soviets lost the Cold War and rightly we absorbed those countries into NATA.

    Ukraine was an independent country for like a year in 1918- 19, prior to 1992 and has been a part of Russia for many centuries. Nuke deal or not, Ukraine is part of the Russian sphere and not the West, and they are not a hill worth dying for.
    Not worth dying for? Perhaps. Still very sad indictment of western failure to push its frontier. Ukraine could be part of the EU over time, if given the protection, and not forsaken to the clutches of tyranny and despotism. Trump’s fecklessness yesterday signed Ukraine’s death warrant.

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are NATO
    Members. We go to war there, correct?
    Yes, the Baltic countries are all NATO and we are treaty bound to defend them.

    The West absorbed almost all of the Warsaw Pact into it's sphere. This was a pretty YUGE win. Why do we need to go all the way to the Russian border? That fight was never worth picking.
    Realpolitik.

    RIP Ukraine. You were stupid to believe Europe and the US could foster a successful future for you. Trump accepted Putin’s denials and soccer ball and now you’re done. I’m sure the Baltic countries feel secure with trump’s commitment to treaties and ability to stand up to putin.