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WSJ: The Trump First Doctrine — Putin respects strength but Trump showed weakness

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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Dude61 said:

    Nearly every political action that generates this much complete nonsense and hysteria from the Left and Right is worthy of immense praise.

    Care to give an example?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Swaye said:

    I've been thinking about all this more than I should, and I find myself wondering if Trump can't disconnect the linkage between two different things effectively. On one hand, you have the Mueller probe going after Russian meddling in our election, and on the other, you have the Mueller probe going after Trump Campaign collusion with Russia to influence the election. These are two distinct things. Just because you have one, does not mean you have the other. Trump isn't a total dumb ass, but perhaps he can't disconnect these two things. I wonder if he feels like agreeing that Russia meddled somehow indicts him as complicit? To me, this is an easy thing to see. Putin jacked with the election - that does not mean that Trump underlings had anything to do with that.

    I just wonder if his bizarre behavior is due to his unrelenting desire to always be right, and he feels that ANY acknowledgement on Russia, whether it has anything to do with him or not, paints him in a bad light. Shit I think about while I should be working.

    Good theory.

    The reality is he's doing the opposite. By denying that which is blatantly obvious (Putin fucked with the election) he discredits his denial of what may or may not have happened (Trumps team was involved with it).
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    I think most of us here are for upsetting the Washington apple cart. A fragile man-baby with no self control or discipline just isn't the guy to do it right.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,659
    edited July 2018
    This narrative is so fucking stupid. Its obvious to anyone with half a brain this was an internal leak from within the DNC and the Russia narrative was concocted post defeat. Trump is just stating the truth - the CIA has been waging all out war against him since he won the primary.

    Where is the fucking server?
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    I can't imagine why President Trump would doubt the people who claim he ordered prostitutes to pee on a bed.

    Mueller special council was tasked with finding collusion between Trump and Russia. So far, no evidence has been provided to back up either of the indictments.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

    This narrative is so fucking stupid. Its obvious to anyone with half a brain this was an internal leak from within the DNC and the Russia narrative was concocted post defeat. Trump is just stating the truth - the CIA has been waging all out war against him since he won the primary.

    Where is the fucking server?

    Even it it's true, you don't announce that at an international presser.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    This narrative is so fucking stupid. Its obvious to anyone with half a brain this was an internal leak from within the DNC and the Russia narrative was concocted post defeat. Trump is just stating the truth - the CIA has been waging all out war against him since he won the primary.

    Where is the fucking server?

    Were you hidden under a rock in 2016? Did you not have internet access during the election? Russians and others trying to hack the election was discussed a ton during the election.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Swaye said:

    I've been thinking about all this more than I should, and I find myself wondering if Trump can't disconnect the linkage between two different things effectively. On one hand, you have the Mueller probe going after Russian meddling in our election, and on the other, you have the Mueller probe going after Trump Campaign collusion with Russia to influence the election. These are two distinct things. Just because you have one, does not mean you have the other. Trump isn't a total dumb ass, but perhaps he can't disconnect these two things. I wonder if he feels like agreeing that Russia meddled somehow indicts him as complicit? To me, this is an easy thing to see. Putin jacked with the election - that does not mean that Trump underlings had anything to do with that.

    I just wonder if his bizarre behavior is due to his unrelenting desire to always be right, and he feels that ANY acknowledgement on Russia, whether it has anything to do with him or not, paints him in a bad light. Shit I think about while I should be working.

    Due to his fragile ego and narcissism, he feels that if he acknowledges that Russia meddled in the election, it diminishes his victory. He is still bragging about his electoral win nearly 2 years after the fact.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    edited July 2018
    2001400ex said:

    This narrative is so fucking stupid. Its obvious to anyone with half a brain this was an internal leak from within the DNC and the Russia narrative was concocted post defeat. Trump is just stating the truth - the CIA has been waging all out war against him since he won the primary.

    Where is the fucking server?

    Were you hidden under a rock in 2016? Did you not have internet access during the election? Russians and others trying to hack the election was discussed a ton during the election.
    Why would the Russians spend time and money trying to undermine our election when the FBI was doing it for free?