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Trump's tax cut didn't trickle down

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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The housing bubble was created by stupid government interference in the housing market combined with stupid government low interest rate policies. Look no further than Greenspan, who served under both parties, to confirm as much. The people on Wall Street took advantage of the situation but they didn't create it. The same goes for all those people that took out loans they couldn't afford. That's the nature of an individualized system acting in aggregate.

    If you think lowering the corporate tax rate and streamlining the tax code isn't good for American competitiveness long term then your FS.

    It's also better for small and middle sized businesses who don't have armies of accountants to ship money overseas or find every tax loophole. Large multinationals never paid the nominal corporate tax rate anyways.

    The problem with you small and medium business issue.... The ones that are actually saving meaningful money do have the money to pay accountants.

    The vast majority of the corporate tax cuts is going to the wealthy. And I'm sure you were a dude bashing on the deficit the prior 8 years.... Which now means nothing?
    No, they don't have nearly the type of accounting department you think they do and more importantly, they don't have the capital and overseas presence to make significant decisions the way multinationals do.

    The wealthy pay the majority of taxes so how exactly should the tax cuts be dolled out? Also, are you measuring aggregate cuts, real numbers, percentage of income, or how exactly? I'd be curious to see the actual numbers as opposed to a talking point.

    No, I haven't thought the deficit was that big of an issue since I took 300 level macro. We essentially take out debt out at a lower interest rate than inflation(i.e. negative interest). I think that the money we are essentially able to invest is better managed by the American taxpayers than large government agencies or contractors.
    You are talking in circles. You say we need a tax cut to keep businesses producing in America then say that most of those businesses don't have the capital to make global decisions. Yes the small mom and pop that makes $100k a year doesn't have large accounting department. They also didn't save much either. But there are many CPAs that'll do the tax work and planning for $5k.... They can't afford that???

    And you can read article after article about where the corporate tax cuts went. They were promoted as going to hiring people and investing in New businesses. But any person with a brain knows that corporations were already flush with cash and weren't investing. They don't invest unless there is demand. There isn't increased demand from a tax cut unless it goes to the middle class. So..... They spent it on stock buybacks and dividends with pennies going to employees.

    This is very basic economics if you take your Trump dick sucking hat off.
    You’re so far out of your league here even I feel sort of bad for you.
    Care to bring some counter points?
    I think I can answer for him.

    Something about freedom. Accuse you of using a logical fallacy. Free market. Back to freedom. Another logical fallacy accusation, this one erroneous. And back to the free market.

    I think that covers his whole arsenal.
    Doesn’t seem like you pay attention. But yeah, he’s the king of logical fallacies. Also he’s horrible at basic Econ so when the topic turns to slightly more advanced economic topics it’s an amazing display of fucktared babel which I summed up by his usual “stop sucking Trumps dick”.

    Come on APAG, you’re better than this.
    Whatever you think of Honda, I think less of you. Fuck off.
    Sick burn brah....

    You seem triggered.
    Yet all you have produced in this thread is "Honda doesn't know economics" without throwing out one reason why or arguing why I'm wrong. Other than Trump said so.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The housing bubble was created by stupid government interference in the housing market combined with stupid government low interest rate policies. Look no further than Greenspan, who served under both parties, to confirm as much. The people on Wall Street took advantage of the situation but they didn't create it. The same goes for all those people that took out loans they couldn't afford. That's the nature of an individualized system acting in aggregate.

    If you think lowering the corporate tax rate and streamlining the tax code isn't good for American competitiveness long term then your FS.

    It's also better for small and middle sized businesses who don't have armies of accountants to ship money overseas or find every tax loophole. Large multinationals never paid the nominal corporate tax rate anyways.

    The problem with you small and medium business issue.... The ones that are actually saving meaningful money do have the money to pay accountants.

    The vast majority of the corporate tax cuts is going to the wealthy. And I'm sure you were a dude bashing on the deficit the prior 8 years.... Which now means nothing?
    No, they don't have nearly the type of accounting department you think they do and more importantly, they don't have the capital and overseas presence to make significant decisions the way multinationals do.

    The wealthy pay the majority of taxes so how exactly should the tax cuts be dolled out? Also, are you measuring aggregate cuts, real numbers, percentage of income, or how exactly? I'd be curious to see the actual numbers as opposed to a talking point.

    No, I haven't thought the deficit was that big of an issue since I took 300 level macro. We essentially take out debt out at a lower interest rate than inflation(i.e. negative interest). I think that the money we are essentially able to invest is better managed by the American taxpayers than large government agencies or contractors.
    You are talking in circles. You say we need a tax cut to keep businesses producing in America then say that most of those businesses don't have the capital to make global decisions. Yes the small mom and pop that makes $100k a year doesn't have large accounting department. They also didn't save much either. But there are many CPAs that'll do the tax work and planning for $5k.... They can't afford that???

    And you can read article after article about where the corporate tax cuts went. They were promoted as going to hiring people and investing in New businesses. But any person with a brain knows that corporations were already flush with cash and weren't investing. They don't invest unless there is demand. There isn't increased demand from a tax cut unless it goes to the middle class. So..... They spent it on stock buybacks and dividends with pennies going to employees.

    This is very basic economics if you take your Trump dick sucking hat off.
    You’re so far out of your league here even I feel sort of bad for you.
    Care to bring some counter points?
    I think I can answer for him.

    Something about freedom. Accuse you of using a logical fallacy. Free market. Back to freedom. Another logical fallacy accusation, this one erroneous. And back to the free market.

    I think that covers his whole arsenal.
    Doesn’t seem like you pay attention. But yeah, he’s the king of logical fallacies. Also he’s horrible at basic Econ so when the topic turns to slightly more advanced economic topics it’s an amazing display of fucktared babel which I summed up by his usual “stop sucking Trumps dick”.

    Come on APAG, you’re better than this.
    Whatever you think of Honda, I think less of you. Fuck off.
    Sick burn brah....

    You seem triggered.
    Yet all you have produced in this thread is "Honda doesn't know economics" without throwing out one reason why or arguing why I'm wrong. Other than Trump said so.

    You just keep posting the same gifs. 1) at just be creative and find better ones. 2) post sport quad wrecks so you don't look ignorant. Bonus points for wrecks in sand dunes.

    photo C52A9C30-0E8F-4EC2-9CE4-A265B5AFAB11_zpsrr5uayqw.gif
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    The doubling of the standard deduction is enough that I don’t have to pay an accountant $350.00 to itemize my taxes, as that deduction is now higher than my usual itemized amount. My tax savings should be another $200.00-$300.00 because of the lower adjusted gross income. My company didn’t pay the employees $1000.00, like some companies, but they did use the savings to acquire another business. That’s where the trickle down occurs for me. They've authorized unlimited overtime while the merger and staffing is completed. I look to pull an additional $20k this year, and should average $10k/year in overtime, going forward.

    And usually an acquisition, there are less jobs in the combined company.... Not exactly a job builder, eh?

    And you shouldn't need a CPA to itemize your deductions. For reals. They are very straight forward.
    The company we bought was extremely mismanaged and verging on bankruptcy. The combined staff will be less than what was, but more than what was going to be.

    Without getting into personal details, my tax situation is complex. I could do it myself or I could save the 6-8 hours of aggravation and pay someone else to do it. I choose the latter.
    Wait a minute. You said you don't have to pay an accountant anymore..... But yet you still do. Which is it? I'll wait until I can prepare my taxes on a postcard.
    The standard deduction, until this year, was $12,000.00. I work from home, have a daughter in college, a daughter w/a disability, my wife is an independent contractor, have mortgage interest, excessive medical bills (almost every year), and a few other things. To maximize my return means I have to complete the 1040, a number of Schedules, etc.. All that effort and I typically get to $15-16k in deductions. I provide the paperwork to my accountant and he completes all the necessary paperwork. I know it’s done right and I don’t have to do the work. Now that the standard deduction is $24k I don’t have to do all that; I’ll take the standard deduction and not itemize.
    Pics of the daughter in college?

    Also, hopefully your wife has an LLC. There is a 20% deduction on pass through income she may be able to get.
    Once again this site proved to be well worth the $10.95 per month.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The housing bubble was created by stupid government interference in the housing market combined with stupid government low interest rate policies. Look no further than Greenspan, who served under both parties, to confirm as much. The people on Wall Street took advantage of the situation but they didn't create it. The same goes for all those people that took out loans they couldn't afford. That's the nature of an individualized system acting in aggregate.

    If you think lowering the corporate tax rate and streamlining the tax code isn't good for American competitiveness long term then your FS.

    It's also better for small and middle sized businesses who don't have armies of accountants to ship money overseas or find every tax loophole. Large multinationals never paid the nominal corporate tax rate anyways.

    The problem with you small and medium business issue.... The ones that are actually saving meaningful money do have the money to pay accountants.

    The vast majority of the corporate tax cuts is going to the wealthy. And I'm sure you were a dude bashing on the deficit the prior 8 years.... Which now means nothing?
    No, they don't have nearly the type of accounting department you think they do and more importantly, they don't have the capital and overseas presence to make significant decisions the way multinationals do.

    The wealthy pay the majority of taxes so how exactly should the tax cuts be dolled out? Also, are you measuring aggregate cuts, real numbers, percentage of income, or how exactly? I'd be curious to see the actual numbers as opposed to a talking point.

    No, I haven't thought the deficit was that big of an issue since I took 300 level macro. We essentially take out debt out at a lower interest rate than inflation(i.e. negative interest). I think that the money we are essentially able to invest is better managed by the American taxpayers than large government agencies or contractors.
    You are talking in circles. You say we need a tax cut to keep businesses producing in America then say that most of those businesses don't have the capital to make global decisions. Yes the small mom and pop that makes $100k a year doesn't have large accounting department. They also didn't save much either. But there are many CPAs that'll do the tax work and planning for $5k.... They can't afford that???

    And you can read article after article about where the corporate tax cuts went. They were promoted as going to hiring people and investing in New businesses. But any person with a brain knows that corporations were already flush with cash and weren't investing. They don't invest unless there is demand. There isn't increased demand from a tax cut unless it goes to the middle class. So..... They spent it on stock buybacks and dividends with pennies going to employees.

    This is very basic economics if you take your Trump dick sucking hat off.
    You’re so far out of your league here even I feel sort of bad for you.
    Care to bring some counter points?
    I think I can answer for him.

    Something about freedom. Accuse you of using a logical fallacy. Free market. Back to freedom. Another logical fallacy accusation, this one erroneous. And back to the free market.

    I think that covers his whole arsenal.
    Doesn’t seem like you pay attention. But yeah, he’s the king of logical fallacies. Also he’s horrible at basic Econ so when the topic turns to slightly more advanced economic topics it’s an amazing display of fucktared babel which I summed up by his usual “stop sucking Trumps dick”.

    Come on APAG, you’re better than this.
    Since when? Maybe he was some sort of Titan before I came here. Or maybe He financed this site to get started?

    Because if not, I only see a whiny bitch that can’t keep her? Story straight from week to week.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    Poor baby
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    Trump orginally proposed that all tariffs be eliminated. None of our "trading partners" thought it was a good idea.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,796 Standard Supporter
    Dude61 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    Trump orginally proposed that all tariffs be eliminated. None of our "trading partners" thought it was a good idea.
    Facts mean nothing to Hondo. Emotions though are highly valued.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Dude61 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    Trump orginally proposed that all tariffs be eliminated. None of our "trading partners" thought it was a good idea.
    If that's what you want to believe. Remember, tariffs and tax cuts will keep jobs in America. And if you believe that I have ocean front property in Kansas to sell you.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    All I hear about from the media is what Trump is cutting. Do you mean to tell me that's not true?


    Federal spending is up. Are you really that stupid? But nice pic. That sure does prove your point.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    Yeah, so what? I’m not a partisan dipshit like you. My point remains. Spend less.
    Then why don't you bag on Trump for increasing spending?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    Yeah, so what? I’m not a partisan dipshit like you. My point remains. Spend less.
    Then why don't you bag on Trump for increasing spending?

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    Yeah, so what? I’m not a partisan dipshit like you. My point remains. Spend less.
    Then why don't you bag on Trump for increasing spending?
    Sorry. I didn’t realize I had to prove shit to you.

    The republican budget signed by Trump was too big, contained too much waste and continued to grow the government. I was against it. Happy?

    Fuck you don’t pay attention or think. You just make a bunch of assumptions and start with your talking points. That’s why everyone but APAG thinks you’re a worthless idiot.
    I am a worthless idiot. That being said, that's the first thing I've seen you type against Trump. And you say I make assumptions. But you think I'm a socialist.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    Yeah, so what? I’m not a partisan dipshit like you. My point remains. Spend less.
    Then why don't you bag on Trump for increasing spending?

    Looks like you have the same news source as doogbot.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    Yeah, so what? I’m not a partisan dipshit like you. My point remains. Spend less.
    Then why don't you bag on Trump for increasing spending?

    Looks like you have the same news source as doogbot.
    I have my own source


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    Yeah, so what? I’m not a partisan dipshit like you. My point remains. Spend less.
    Then why don't you bag on Trump for increasing spending?

    Looks like you have the same news source as doogbot.
    I have my own source


    Why do you hate where Trump has increased spending?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    I need to see some facts
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I need to see some facts

    Receipts are going down. Expenditures up.... HTH but I know it won't.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/release/tables?rid=53&eid=5272
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    Yeah, so what? I’m not a partisan dipshit like you. My point remains. Spend less.
    Then why don't you bag on Trump for increasing spending?
    Sorry. I didn’t realize I had to prove shit to you.

    The republican budget signed by Trump was too big, contained too much waste and continued to grow the government. I was against it. Happy?

    Fuck you don’t pay attention or think. You just make a bunch of assumptions and start with your talking points. That’s why everyone but APAG thinks you’re a worthless idiot.
    I am a worthless idiot. That being said, that's the first thing I've seen you type against Trump. And you say I make assumptions. But you think I'm a socialist.
    Really? Again you don’t pay attention. In this thread I said tarrifs are flat out wrong. I can’t really think of much praise I’ve given Trump either. But here, let me help you since you have a hard time figuring stuff out. I like the tax cuts and a lot of the degrulation. I hate tarrifs, spending, suggesting violating the 4th and 5th amendments. That’s a start. Do you need a comprehensive list?

    When did I say you are a socialist? You don’t even know what one is, so how would you know if you are one?
    There you go. Nice work. You aren't a shill like Race.

    Thing is, no current Democrat is actually a socialist. No one is arguing for the government to own businesses in this country. Tho people like OBK use socialist to cover people like Bernie. Who isn't a socialist but does want to socialize a couple areas. One I agree with being medical. But that'll never happen.
  • Squirt
    Squirt Member Posts: 485
    2001400ex said:

    I need to see some facts

    Receipts are going down. Expenditures up.... HTH but I know it won't.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/release/tables?rid=53&eid=5272
    These are good figures, but I think the better measure is % of GDP rather than absolute dollars. I think the CBO put out such numbers recently, but I can't find them with a quick search.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yet you Trump dick suckers don't come with any valid points. Just suck is dick. Tariffs are good!!!! North Korea is our friend and will denuclearize!!!! Tax cuts will bring in more revenue than they cost!!!!

    1. Tarrifs aren’t good. Whoever says that is wrong.
    2. Describing a tax cut as a cost is also wrong. If you don’t get robbed, do you describe the money that the robber didn’t take as a cost to the robber? Also,Federal tax revenue is at an all time high. Was that caused by the tax cuts? Or even though it’s at an all time high, would it have been higher without the cuts? I don’t know or care. I do know they have more than enough money to meet all of their constitutional and current statutory obligations. Spend less.

    Republicans have been doing a great job fulfilling their campaign promise to cut spending. Oh wait.
    Yeah, so what? I’m not a partisan dipshit like you. My point remains. Spend less.
    Then why don't you bag on Trump for increasing spending?
    Sorry. I didn’t realize I had to prove shit to you.

    The republican budget signed by Trump was too big, contained too much waste and continued to grow the government. I was against it. Happy?

    Fuck you don’t pay attention or think. You just make a bunch of assumptions and start with your talking points. That’s why everyone but APAG thinks you’re a worthless idiot.
    I am a worthless idiot. That being said, that's the first thing I've seen you type against Trump. And you say I make assumptions. But you think I'm a socialist.
    Really? Again you don’t pay attention. In this thread I said tarrifs are flat out wrong. I can’t really think of much praise I’ve given Trump either. But here, let me help you since you have a hard time figuring stuff out. I like the tax cuts and a lot of the degrulation. I hate tarrifs, spending, suggesting violating the 4th and 5th amendments. That’s a start. Do you need a comprehensive list?

    When did I say you are a socialist? You don’t even know what one is, so how would you know if you are one?
    There you go. Nice work. You aren't a shill like Race.

    Thing is, no current Democrat is actually a socialist. No one is arguing for the government to own businesses in this country. Tho people like OBK use socialist to cover people like Bernie. Who isn't a socialist but does want to socialize a couple areas. One I agree with being medical. But that'll never happen.
    Oh, 18% of GDP, is that all?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    I just posted them