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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club
    OBK and Hondo vs. people with half a brain
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club
    Government creates an unfair market advantage and we want more government to fix the problem they created. Sounds familiar.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited June 2018

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club
    I think we should abolish the FCC. Ever think of that?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
    It would be great if competition were always the answer, but it isn't in cases where the barriers to entry are so prohibitive that new competition doesn't materialize. Giving ISPs new means to fuck you over is not the answer. Governments suck. I hate the government most of the time. How about we spur some innovation and competition, and get more than one government competing for our bidness. Lets attract this new competition by giving the government some cool new tools that they can use at your expense. Say, the ability to shut down 50 newspapers a year that they don't like, or seizing all guns in a state of their choice every year. That's essentially what's going on here.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
    It would be great if competition were always the answer, but it isn't in cases where the barriers to entry are so prohibitive that new competition doesn't materialize. Giving ISPs new means to fuck you over is not the answer. Governments suck. I hate the government most of the time. How about we spur some innovation and competition, and get more than one government competing for our bidness. Lets attract this new competition by giving the government some cool new tools that they can use at your expense. Say, the ability to shut down 50 newspapers a year that they don't like, or seizing all guns in a state of their choice every year. That's essentially what's going on here.

    The only way that is true is if the government is rigging the game
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    whlinder said:

    salemcoog said:

    Fellow Troomps, this is the wrong hill to die on. I don't want to be carting off corpses by thread's end. This is a dark horse wedge issue that pisses a lot of people off. Enough to swing elections. Support for net neutrality is across the bored. More than 75% of democrats AND republicans oppose these changes.

    Disagree.

    If folks 401k continues to build, wage increases continue, home values continue to rise and no new wars or conflicts emerge, they won’t GAF about this shit.
    All of that was true under the previous President and the electorate gave a fuck about other shit which gave us the current President.

    (I realize Obama didn't run again, but usually those macro indicators benefit the party in the WH)
    No Whindbag. 401k’s didn’t rise at near the level as 2017. Home values weren’t rising across the country as they are now. And incomes were stagnant during Obama’s terms.

    I’ll just file this poast next to your “But Iggy isn’t an impact player Anymore!!! Poasts
    Wut????

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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited June 2018
    Well this stratergy isn't swaying any votes to the correct side of the issue. Tim to appeal to the degenerate nature of the denizens that inhabit this cuntless whorehouse. The end of NN will directly impact your porno experience, and not in a good way. HTFH.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club

    Well this stratergy isn't swaying any votes to the correct side of the issue. Tim to appeal to the degenerate nature of the denizens that inhabit this cuntless whorehouse. The end of NN will directly impact your porno experience, and not in a good way. HTFH.

    Plenty of free porn before 2014.

    Besides, it's been well documented that 81% of voters are retards and I could not care less what they think.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    Porn drives everything on the Internet and before that VCRs and tapes
  • RedRocketRedRocket Member Posts: 1,527

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
    It would be great if competition were always the answer, but it isn't in cases where the barriers to entry are so prohibitive that new competition doesn't materialize. Giving ISPs new means to fuck you over is not the answer. Governments suck. I hate the government most of the time. How about we spur some innovation and competition, and get more than one government competing for our bidness. Lets attract this new competition by giving the government some cool new tools that they can use at your expense. Say, the ability to shut down 50 newspapers a year that they don't like, or seizing all guns in a state of their choice every year. That's essentially what's going on here.

    The only way that is true is if the government is rigging the game
    Look at what happened to Google fiber. They've quit going forward with the wires and poles expansion model because it was too expensive. The government wasn't the problem. In Nashville their city council actually passed legislation to make it cheaper and easier for Google fiber to connect to existing utility poles but ATT and Comcast fought it tooth and nail. This was pretty much the story in every market that Google fiber tried to enter. The encumbent ISP tried to make it expensive and prohibitive as possible for Google to connect to existing infrastructure.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club
    RedRocket said:

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
    It would be great if competition were always the answer, but it isn't in cases where the barriers to entry are so prohibitive that new competition doesn't materialize. Giving ISPs new means to fuck you over is not the answer. Governments suck. I hate the government most of the time. How about we spur some innovation and competition, and get more than one government competing for our bidness. Lets attract this new competition by giving the government some cool new tools that they can use at your expense. Say, the ability to shut down 50 newspapers a year that they don't like, or seizing all guns in a state of their choice every year. That's essentially what's going on here.

    The only way that is true is if the government is rigging the game
    Look at what happened to Google fiber. They've quit going forward with the wires and poles expansion model because it was too expensive. The government wasn't the problem. In Nashville their city council actually passed legislation to make it cheaper and easier for Google fiber to connect to existing utility poles but ATT and Comcast fought it tooth and nail. This was pretty much the story in every market that Google fiber tried to enter. The encumbent ISP tried to make it expensive and prohibitive as possible for Google to connect to existing infrastructure.
    You don't get it. At. All.
  • RedRocketRedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    PurpleJ said:

    RedRocket said:

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
    It would be great if competition were always the answer, but it isn't in cases where the barriers to entry are so prohibitive that new competition doesn't materialize. Giving ISPs new means to fuck you over is not the answer. Governments suck. I hate the government most of the time. How about we spur some innovation and competition, and get more than one government competing for our bidness. Lets attract this new competition by giving the government some cool new tools that they can use at your expense. Say, the ability to shut down 50 newspapers a year that they don't like, or seizing all guns in a state of their choice every year. That's essentially what's going on here.

    The only way that is true is if the government is rigging the game
    Look at what happened to Google fiber. They've quit going forward with the wires and poles expansion model because it was too expensive. The government wasn't the problem. In Nashville their city council actually passed legislation to make it cheaper and easier for Google fiber to connect to existing utility poles but ATT and Comcast fought it tooth and nail. This was pretty much the story in every market that Google fiber tried to enter. The encumbent ISP tried to make it expensive and prohibitive as possible for Google to connect to existing infrastructure.
    You don't get it. At. All.
    Explain why or GTFO. No platitudes.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club
    RedRocket said:

    PurpleJ said:

    RedRocket said:

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
    It would be great if competition were always the answer, but it isn't in cases where the barriers to entry are so prohibitive that new competition doesn't materialize. Giving ISPs new means to fuck you over is not the answer. Governments suck. I hate the government most of the time. How about we spur some innovation and competition, and get more than one government competing for our bidness. Lets attract this new competition by giving the government some cool new tools that they can use at your expense. Say, the ability to shut down 50 newspapers a year that they don't like, or seizing all guns in a state of their choice every year. That's essentially what's going on here.

    The only way that is true is if the government is rigging the game
    Look at what happened to Google fiber. They've quit going forward with the wires and poles expansion model because it was too expensive. The government wasn't the problem. In Nashville their city council actually passed legislation to make it cheaper and easier for Google fiber to connect to existing utility poles but ATT and Comcast fought it tooth and nail. This was pretty much the story in every market that Google fiber tried to enter. The encumbent ISP tried to make it expensive and prohibitive as possible for Google to connect to existing infrastructure.
    You don't get it. At. All.
    Explain why or GTFO. No platitudes.
    It's already been explained in this thread.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    PurpleJ said:

    RedRocket said:

    PurpleJ said:

    RedRocket said:

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
    It would be great if competition were always the answer, but it isn't in cases where the barriers to entry are so prohibitive that new competition doesn't materialize. Giving ISPs new means to fuck you over is not the answer. Governments suck. I hate the government most of the time. How about we spur some innovation and competition, and get more than one government competing for our bidness. Lets attract this new competition by giving the government some cool new tools that they can use at your expense. Say, the ability to shut down 50 newspapers a year that they don't like, or seizing all guns in a state of their choice every year. That's essentially what's going on here.

    The only way that is true is if the government is rigging the game
    Look at what happened to Google fiber. They've quit going forward with the wires and poles expansion model because it was too expensive. The government wasn't the problem. In Nashville their city council actually passed legislation to make it cheaper and easier for Google fiber to connect to existing utility poles but ATT and Comcast fought it tooth and nail. This was pretty much the story in every market that Google fiber tried to enter. The encumbent ISP tried to make it expensive and prohibitive as possible for Google to connect to existing infrastructure.
    You don't get it. At. All.
    Explain why or GTFO. No platitudes.
    It's already been explained in this thread.
    Explain it again. I didn't get your argument the first time. Maybe it's because you don't have one that makes logical sense.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    RedRocket said:

    PurpleJ said:

    RedRocket said:

    You pay more for access to programming every day or do you think you're basic cable package is as good as it gets?

    The real question is, why do you want to pay more, when you don't have to? Leave well enough alone. The net was perfectly fine under NN. NN makes it so that all traffic is considered equal, ISPs cannot slow or speed up traffic to individual sites deliberately. Repealing NN is a huge step backward, not forward. It won't add any real competition to the mix, even though they're putting out a big sign that says "Hey ISPs, look at this new way you can fuck the consumr over!!!111!" It will only result in new sites being throttled before they can even get off the ground. How much innovation will be lose there? Some of the greatest thoughts, ideas and innovations originated in basements and garages. Some of those innovations will be lost if we lose the free internet. Read a little about Ajit Pai, and you'll soon realize what a stupid fucktard we have running the FCC.
    NN had a life of about 12 months at best. It is irrelevant other than as an issue to argue over at HH

    Nothing will ever stay the same. You get low prices to get you to dump satellite or cable and watch TV on line then the price goes up

    Welcome to capitalism baby

    If everyone cuts the cord the cordless price is going up with or without NN or any other N

    The solution is competition. Don't tell me how we can't do it tell me how we fucking can. That's how I roll bitch
    It would be great if competition were always the answer, but it isn't in cases where the barriers to entry are so prohibitive that new competition doesn't materialize. Giving ISPs new means to fuck you over is not the answer. Governments suck. I hate the government most of the time. How about we spur some innovation and competition, and get more than one government competing for our bidness. Lets attract this new competition by giving the government some cool new tools that they can use at your expense. Say, the ability to shut down 50 newspapers a year that they don't like, or seizing all guns in a state of their choice every year. That's essentially what's going on here.

    The only way that is true is if the government is rigging the game
    Look at what happened to Google fiber. They've quit going forward with the wires and poles expansion model because it was too expensive. The government wasn't the problem. In Nashville their city council actually passed legislation to make it cheaper and easier for Google fiber to connect to existing utility poles but ATT and Comcast fought it tooth and nail. This was pretty much the story in every market that Google fiber tried to enter. The encumbent ISP tried to make it expensive and prohibitive as possible for Google to connect to existing infrastructure.
    You don't get it. At. All.
    Explain why or GTFO. No platitudes.
    It's already been explained in this thread.
    Lay off Race's schtick.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    J is getting SLAUGHTERED in this thread.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club
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