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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club

    ISP's are much much more like utilities than private companies competing in a free market. Agreed that we need competition but this isn't the way that you are going to get it. I am biased in favor of free market solutions but there are very few ways to achieve an actual free market in this case. Laying new fiber in a location is prohibitive in a variety of ways and the existence of the current infrastructure often prohibits it completely. Until wireless catches up with cable you reasonably don't have a shot at real competition.

    I don't have competition for wireless

    People still plug in?
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The internet is not a public utility and should not be treated as such.

    You like to think that making it a government sanctioned monopoly will improve service levels and encourage competition. That's what you like to do. Commie.

    Pray tell, who's competing with who for our? business?
    Anyone with money to invest in said business.

    Maybe Amazon should join the race. OBK? Thoughts?
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited June 2018
    PurpleJ said:

    All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?

    Governments would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?
    Government overreach and censorship isn't the topic, ISP abuse is. Water and electric companies are utilities that deliver your water and electricity. They are not permitted to slow down or speed up delivery of their product to extort more money from you the customer. Nor are they allowed to decide how you can use your water and electricity. So why should ISPs have that power? Like water and electric companies, their sole purpose is to deliver access to an essential commodity, in this case, information. Yes, you can pay more up front for faster internet, but that's different than selectively speeding up or slowing down access to individual sites.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?

    Governments would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?
    Government overreach and censorship isn't the topic, ISP abuse is. Water and electric companies are utilities that deliver your water and electricity. They are not permitted to slow down or speed up delivery of their product to extort more money from you the customer. Nor are they allowed to decide how you can use your water and electricity. So why should ISPs have that power? Like water and electric companies, their sole purpose is to deliver access to an essential commodity, in this case, information.
    Ever been to Flint?
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    PurpleJ said:

    All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?

    Governments would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?
    Government overreach and censorship isn't the topic, ISP abuse is. Water and electric companies are utilities that deliver your water and electricity. They are not permitted to slow down or speed up delivery of their product to extort more money from you the customer. Nor are they allowed to decide how you can use your water and electricity. So why should ISPs have that power? Like water and electric companies, their sole purpose is to deliver access to an essential commodity, in this case, information. Yes, you can pay more up front for faster internet, but that's different than selectively speeding up or slowing down access to individual sites.
    We?ve been hearing the last decade or so what poor condition that infrastructure is in.
    Not saying causation.
    Only implying causation.
    Don't twist.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.

    That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.

    There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.

    Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.

    That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.

    You should move to Portugal or the UK. You can pay extra there to access sites like Facebook and Youtube. You can buy social media bundles and video bundles, in addition to what you're already paying for internet access. Make extortion great again. Guyz, you don't have to follow the Trumpster on everything. Sometims he's wrong. Getting rid of net neutrality was the private vendetta of one of his retarded monkey henchman. Just like getting rid of weed is the vendetta of another of his stupid henchman. These people are certifiable idiots, and should have been fired from their posts a long time ago.


  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club

    This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.

    That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.

    There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.

    Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock.
    The materials used for the wiring to create bandwidth aren't finite? Staff? True???!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    PurpleJ said:

    This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.

    That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.

    There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.

    Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock.
    The materials used for the wiring to create bandwidth aren't finite? Staff? True???!
    Idiots arguing against their own interests as consumers is special.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.

    That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.

    I keep finding extra layers of retard in this post.

    People that want faster speeds already pay more than people that want slow speeds.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club
    OBK is the poster child of WTGWT. He shares the same dumb line of reasoning as *gasp* Bernie/Hillary supporters. Luckily Trump is a lot smarter than most of the idiots that vote and I thank him for his service.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    PurpleJ said:

    This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.

    That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.

    There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.

    Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock.
    The materials used for the wiring to create bandwidth aren't finite? Staff? True???!
    Do you think little bits of wire fall apart every time you use the internet?
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,253 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.

    That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.

    There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.

    Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock.
    The materials used for the wiring to create bandwidth aren't finite? Staff? True???!
    Do you think little bits of wire fall apart every time you use the internet?
    No, but what does that have to do with your retarded ass post?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    What's comcast?

    Do you pay more for more TV stations? Do you pay extra for channels that show tits? Of course you do

    If the internet splinters into tiers of service after wiping out entertainment providers it would be naive to think they wouldn't adopt the same practices

    Nobody is in business to make some boner sweatpants loser in his basement happy
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.

    That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.

    You should move to Portugal or the UK. You can pay extra there to access sites like Facebook and Youtube. You can buy social media bundles and video bundles, in addition to what you're already paying for internet access. Make extortion great again. Guyz, you don't have to follow the Trumpster on everything. Sometims he's wrong. Getting rid of net neutrality was the private vendetta of one of his retarded monkey henchman. Just like getting rid of weed is the vendetta of another of his stupid henchman. These people are certifiable idiots, and should have been fired from their posts a long time ago.


    OBK and I agree. And troomps that follow the Trump corporate line are awesome.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    I trust the government

    And the coaches

    We should do what we are told
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    Fuck cox and fuck comcast.

  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    If this was actually about introducing more competition, the ISPs wouldn't be lobbying in favor of it. HTH
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