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How come when I moved to Riverside I was told who my wireless provider was instead of being able to choose? Serious questionUWhuskytskeet said:
There was nothing stifling competition before today other than it's really expensive to lay fiber. What changed today that is going to all new cable companies to enter the market?RaceBannon said:
So wouldn't our law makers be better off deregulating IP providers and opening up the field? Competition delivers better results than regulationUWhuskytskeet said:
As long as it's the one or two you are able to choose from.PurpleJ said:
Commies gonna commie. You are free to choose any ISP you want.oregonblitzkrieg said:This was easily the most retarded policy under Trump. Makes zero sense, hurts consumers, does NOTHING to spur innovation as claimed, and opens the door for abuse by ISPs.
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If I don't like a company I LEAVE. I don't see the option to do so at this point
J said
They can do whatever they want. They paid the upfront costs to provide the service and can monetize it however they see fit. They are then free to use their profits to expand their reach and provide service to more areas and customers. Or not. The flip side is that they have to compete with other ISPs for customers, and are held in check by the market's demand for quality service at the lowest price possible. You, the paying customer, have the option of choosing whichever provider you feel is best or fucking off to the public library or McDonalds to get it for free. -
It would be different if people had a choice of more than 2 ISPs. I get 2, century Link at 12 Mbps or Comcast at 150 Mbps but $85 a month.PurpleJ said:
They can do whatever they want. They paid the upfront costs to provide the service and can monetize it however they see fit. They are then free to use their profits to expand their reach and provide service to more areas and customers. Or not. The flip side is that they have to compete with other ISPs for customers, and are held in check by the market's demand for quality service at the lowest price possible. You, the paying customer, have the option of choosing whichever provider you feel is best or fucking off to the public library or McDonalds to get it for free.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Disagree. It's become an essential part of daily life. It's the primary source of information and people rely on it for their jerbs. Please to be explaining HOW THE FUCK allowing ISP UTILITIES to speed up or slow down your access to certain sites on the net will spur innovation, help consumers and not harm free speech?PurpleJ said:The internet is not a public utility and should not be treated as such.
You like to think that making it a government sanctioned monopoly will improve service levels and encourage competition. That's what you like to do. Commie.
Don't bother answering those questions, because you can't. It's rhetorical.
Fuck. WTGWT now more than ever.
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And I didn't say the change today has anything to do with competition I said we need competition
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Portugal? Portugal is in the heavily regulated EU and is a socialist nation. I would be willing to bet that laying fiber is even more expensive there than it is here. Seems like you get what you pay for no matter what.
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So you agree with me that the lack of competition is the issue2001400ex said:
It would be different if people had a choice of more than 2 ISPs. I get 2, century Link at 12 Mbps or Comcast at 150 Mbps but $85 a month.PurpleJ said:
They can do whatever they want. They paid the upfront costs to provide the service and can monetize it however they see fit. They are then free to use their profits to expand their reach and provide service to more areas and customers. Or not. The flip side is that they have to compete with other ISPs for customers, and are held in check by the market's demand for quality service at the lowest price possible. You, the paying customer, have the option of choosing whichever provider you feel is best or fucking off to the public library or McDonalds to get it for free.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Disagree. It's become an essential part of daily life. It's the primary source of information and people rely on it for their jerbs. Please to be explaining HOW THE FUCK allowing ISP UTILITIES to speed up or slow down your access to certain sites on the net will spur innovation, help consumers and not harm free speech?PurpleJ said:The internet is not a public utility and should not be treated as such.
You like to think that making it a government sanctioned monopoly will improve service levels and encourage competition. That's what you like to do. Commie.
Don't bother answering those questions, because you can't. It's rhetorical.
Fuck. WTGWT now more than ever.
But nice work sucking big business dick at our expense.
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Disagree. We paid for it.PurpleJ said:
They can do whatever they want. They paid the upfront costs to provide the service and can monetize it however they see fit. They are then free to use their profits to expand their reach and provide service to more areas and customers. Or not. The flip side is that they have to compete with other ISPs for customers, and are held in check by the market's demand for quality service at the lowest price possible. You, the paying customer, have the option of choosing whichever provider you feel is best or fucking off to the public library or McDonalds to get it for free.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Disagree. It's become an essential part of daily life. It's the primary source of information and people rely on it for their jerbs. Please to be explaining HOW THE FUCK allowing ISP UTILITIES to speed up or slow down your access to certain sites on the net will spur innovation, help consumers and not harm free speech?PurpleJ said:The internet is not a public utility and should not be treated as such.
You like to think that making it a government sanctioned monopoly will improve service levels and encourage competition. That's what you like to do. Commie.
Don't bother answering those questions, because you can't. It's rhetorical.
Fuck. WTGWT now more than ever. -
PurpleJ said:
Electric and water companies can do whatever they want. They paid the upfront costs to provide the service and can monetize it however they see fit. They are then free to use their profits to expand their reach and provide service to more areas and customers. Or not. The flip side is that they don't have to compete with other electric and water companies for customers because they are the only game in town, and are held in check by the necessary evil of regulation. You, the paying customer, do not have the option of choosing whichever provider you feel is best or fucking off to the public library or McDonalds to drink water and charge your ipad.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Disagree. It's become an essential part of daily life. It's the primary source of information and people rely on it for their jerbs. Please to be explaining HOW THE FUCK allowing ISP UTILITIES to speed up or slow down your access to certain sites on the net will spur innovation, help consumers and not harm free speech?PurpleJ said:The internet is not a public utility and should not be treated as such.
You like to think that making it a government sanctioned monopoly will improve service levels and encourage competition. That's what you like to do. Commie.
Don't bother answering those questions, because you can't. It's rhetorical.
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Sounds like the government is your problem. Thanks for agreeing with me.UWhuskytskeet said:
Disagree. We paid for it.PurpleJ said:
They can do whatever they want. They paid the upfront costs to provide the service and can monetize it however they see fit. They are then free to use their profits to expand their reach and provide service to more areas and customers. Or not. The flip side is that they have to compete with other ISPs for customers, and are held in check by the market's demand for quality service at the lowest price possible. You, the paying customer, have the option of choosing whichever provider you feel is best or fucking off to the public library or McDonalds to get it for free.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Disagree. It's become an essential part of daily life. It's the primary source of information and people rely on it for their jerbs. Please to be explaining HOW THE FUCK allowing ISP UTILITIES to speed up or slow down your access to certain sites on the net will spur innovation, help consumers and not harm free speech?PurpleJ said:The internet is not a public utility and should not be treated as such.
You like to think that making it a government sanctioned monopoly will improve service levels and encourage competition. That's what you like to do. Commie.
Don't bother answering those questions, because you can't. It's rhetorical.
Fuck. WTGWT now more than ever.
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What's your point? If laying fiber is more expensive there, it only reinforces my argument that ISPs should be regarded as utilities. The competition argument falls flat. The cost of entering that market, laying fiber, etc. is way too high for people to expect completion to flourish.PurpleJ said:Portugal? Portugal is in the heavily regulated EU and is a socialist nation. I would be willing to bet that laying fiber is even more expensive there than it is here. Seems like you get what you pay for no matter what.
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Yeah that sucks, though most people are in similar situations. You still aren't going to magically get more ISPs to choose from now. Your ISP will get more revenue though, so good for them I guess.RaceBannon said:
How come when I moved to Riverside I was told who my wireless provider was instead of being able to choose? Serious questionUWhuskytskeet said:
There was nothing stifling competition before today other than it's really expensive to lay fiber. What changed today that is going to all new cable companies to enter the market?RaceBannon said:
So wouldn't our law makers be better off deregulating IP providers and opening up the field? Competition delivers better results than regulationUWhuskytskeet said:
As long as it's the one or two you are able to choose from.PurpleJ said:
Commies gonna commie. You are free to choose any ISP you want.oregonblitzkrieg said:This was easily the most retarded policy under Trump. Makes zero sense, hurts consumers, does NOTHING to spur innovation as claimed, and opens the door for abuse by ISPs.
Iron law
If I don't like a company I LEAVE. I don't see the option to do so at this point
