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SCOTUS rules Gawd hates gays

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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    The Catholics have all the real stuff.

    Agree.

    What’s with the labels DNC?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    I have a dark secret: my parents never baptized me.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,784 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    I have a dark secret: my parents never baptized me.
    Another area of contention - baby baptism. If you aren't aware can you consent?

    I was baptized a Lutheran baby, allegedly because I don't remember, and did it again when I was grown enough to decide.

    Watch out for crocs though

    And this guy


  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    I have a dark secret: my parents never baptized me.
    Another area of contention - baby baptism. If you aren't aware can you consent?

    I was baptized a Lutheran baby, allegedly because I don't remember, and did it again when I was grown enough to decide.

    Watch out for crocs though

    And this guy


    Re: baby baptism, it's a valid critique. My point though is more along the lines that I think it's probably harder to find faith as an adult if you have little or no exposure as a yoot.

    The downfall of Agent Van Alden was brilliant TV.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,487 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    I have a dark secret: my parents never baptized me.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club
    edited June 2018
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    I am going to suggest to Stalin, that we need a "HCH is Not For Sermon Seekers Bored" for the higher level theological discushions.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,784 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    I am going to suggest to Stalin, that we need a "HCH is Not For Sermon Seekers Bored" for the higher level theological discushions.
    No

    I'm breaking my own rule today

  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
    And they’re not a compelling faith?
    Hot take.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    I am going to suggest to Stalin, that we need a "HCH is Not For Sermon Seekers Bored" for the higher level theological discushions.
    My Books of the Bible tournament bracket is finna be lit! Which two will get left out???
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
    And they’re not a compelling faith?
    Hot take.
    Sorry to disappoint you Darth
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    I am going to suggest to Stalin, that we need a "HCH is Not For Sermon Seekers Bored" for the higher level theological discushions.
    My Books of the Bible tournament bracket is finna be lit! Which two will get left out???
    My horse...


  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
    And they’re not a compelling faith?
    Hot take.
    Sorry to disappoint you Darth
    Darth? Isn’t that a term for pagan Sith Lord?

    Can I still be saved? What if I speak in tongues? Tia!
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
    And they’re not a compelling faith?
    Hot take.
    Sorry to disappoint you Darth
    Darth? Isn’t that a term for pagan Sith Lord?

    Can I still be saved?
    What if I speak in tongues? Tia!
    You ain't dead yet my fren.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,784 Founders Club
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
    And they’re not a compelling faith?
    Hot take.
    Sorry to disappoint you Darth
    Darth? Isn’t that a term for pagan Sith Lord?

    Can I still be saved?
    What if I speak in tongues? Tia!
    You ain't dead yet my fren.
    Awesome. I just subscribed to jimmy swaggart’s magazine The Evangelust.

    I didn’t know boozing, carousing and prostitutes were part of being an evangelist. I’ll be saved in no time! I have sinned!
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
    And they’re not a compelling faith?
    Hot take.
    Sorry to disappoint you Darth
    Darth? Isn’t that a term for pagan Sith Lord?

    Can I still be saved?
    What if I speak in tongues? Tia!
    You ain't dead yet my fren.
    Awesome. I just subscribed to jimmy swaggart’s magazine The Evangelust.

    I didn’t know boozing, carousing and prostitutes were part of being an evangelist. I’ll be saved in no time! I have sinned!
    Jimmy Swaggart? Come on man, we?ve had some worthy scandals in the 30 years since Swaggartgate, STOP LIVING IN THE PAST!
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,784 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
    And they’re not a compelling faith?
    Hot take.
    Sorry to disappoint you Darth
    Darth? Isn’t that a term for pagan Sith Lord?

    Can I still be saved?
    What if I speak in tongues? Tia!
    You ain't dead yet my fren.
    Awesome. I just subscribed to jimmy swaggart’s magazine The Evangelust.

    I didn’t know boozing, carousing and prostitutes were part of being an evangelist. I’ll be saved in no time! I have sinned!
    Jimmy Swaggart? Come on man, we?ve had some worthy scandals in the 30 years since Swaggartgate, STOP LIVING IN THE PAST!
    I saw Jimmy too 40 years ago in Tulsa. Plays the piano like his cousin
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:
    "Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

    "The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market," Kennedy added.
    We all know gays have rights, it's just nice to see that their rights don't automatically trump others rights in all cases. I think that is all SCOTUS is saying here - it's a delicate balancing act - and hard to have absolutes. Gays have a right to be served, but small private businesses with strong religious beliefs have rights as well.
    Exactly. That was the point of that quote. There was another quote where this decision doesn't address many of those other issues. Hard thing is, whose rights matter more?

    Tho I do chuckle at people using Christianity as a reason to not serve gay people. Given Jesus would tell them to serve the gay couple: thou shall not throw stones.
    I don't think that means what you think it means. Jesus did not say you had to condone sinful behavior or support it, just that you should recognize that you are also a sinner. Having empathy or loving someone doesn't mean you have to support him or her in his or her behavior. Jesus spent his time with prostitutes, but he didn't encourage them to be prostitutes!
    This case was particularly interesting because the baker was not refusing to serve them. Rather, he was refusing to make a custom cake for their wedding. It is clear, for instance, that a gay couple could not force a Christian publisher to publish their book on gay marriage. Now it is tricky with respect to what counts as "expression". Is simply baking a unique cake? What about if your write a message on it? Certainly there will be more cases like this in the future.
    Christianity would have been better in my view if the eye witnesses jotted down all the sermons, speeches, etc in real tim instead of it all being very "purple, monkey, dishwasher" ish over the course of many, many decades of ancient history.
    Why do you hate slow strategy writings??
    I don't as long as its in the original KJV. Fuck the NIV.
    Read it like the Apostle Paul wrote it or not at all! King James only bitch!
    Ye Old Early Modern Engrish >>>>> Greek.
    I know we're being sarcastic but I do know King James Only (KJO) idiots who really say shit like that
    Yes, of course. But still, I am descended of a long line of Anglicans.
    Hard to imagine how someone raised by "We want to be Catholic just not answer to the Catholics or called Catholic" could leave such a compelling faith.
    Called Catholic? Answer to Catholics?

    I’m sensing a lot of hate in your life.

    Are there are a lot of evangelical “Christians” in Mississippi that hate Catholics?
    This was about Anglicans, hth
    And they’re not a compelling faith?
    Hot take.
    Sorry to disappoint you Darth
    Darth? Isn’t that a term for pagan Sith Lord?

    Can I still be saved?
    What if I speak in tongues? Tia!
    You ain't dead yet my fren.
    Awesome. I just subscribed to jimmy swaggart’s magazine The Evangelust.

    I didn’t know boozing, carousing and prostitutes were part of being an evangelist. I’ll be saved in no time! I have sinned!
    Jimmy Swaggart? Come on man, we?ve had some worthy scandals in the 30 years since Swaggartgate, STOP LIVING IN THE PAST!
    I saw Jimmy too 40 years ago in Tulsa. Plays the piano like his cousin
    Said cousin lives not too far from me. Not sure if his cousinwife is still with him/alive, but probably. Had backstage passes to one of his shows a few years ago and showed up late and missed my chance.
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