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Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks Taft!!
From: "Bill Ress"
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:21:35 -0800
In-Reply-To: <8488E23095C0044597C202E07C74322B012CE203@ENPEFRML20.frontrange.afspc.ds.af.mil>
Taft,
I personally wish to thank you for your efforts, first in identifying what
likely is a late deployment of N-cube and then to provide us with the
delta-v data. Your comments about future ejection velocities will be well
noted on the AMSAT thread and we sincerely look forward to your future
updates and support.
I, like many others, will be continuing to listen for N-cube for possible
signs of life and to SSETI to see if the deployment causes a re-start.
Thanks again and Happy New Year - - - Bill N6GHz
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org]On
Behalf Of Devere, George T GS-14 AFSPC/XPYC
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:50 PM
To: Neil Melville; Ian Ashley; Radu Barza; Freddy Pranajaya;
missioncontrol@sseti.org; Amsat-bb; ncube@rocketrange.no;
STLee@calpoly.edu; operation@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp;
g.shirville@btinternet.com; Yohko; nakasuka@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; Neil
Melville; graham@shirville.com; Marianne Vinje Tantillo
Cc: Randolph, Jason C GS-13 AFSPC/XPYC
Subject: [amsat-bb] RE: Update- New Object near SSETI
Neil- Been busy here- we have had a bunch of interesting launches in the
last few days!
Anyway, to answer your delta V question on the other Cubesats: As you
know, we had some difficulty in identifying the two other Cubesats in a
timely fashion as they moved away from SSETI. Because they moved away
fairly slowly, we have large tangle of data. By the time we were able
to discretely observe the two Cubesats, several days (almost a week) had
passed. When we propagate backwards over this time span, we do not have
good confidence in our results. We do get results, but I have very
little confidence that they are valid numbers so I will not pass them
along.
So, I do not believe that we can help with valid delta V numbers for the
other Cubesats. This does raise an interesting point for the future.
Perhaps there may be a way to eject these Cubesats with higher
velocities, so that they move away from the mothership more quickly.
This would greatly enhance our ability to discriminate them more
rapidly. I am not sure how best to communicate this type of information
to the Cubesat community, so would appreciate any thoughts in this
regard. Since anomalies can happen and the future Cubesat operators may
need to get information from us, it might be mutually beneficial to
investigate this further. Please let me know what you think.
Finally, note that the new object continues to decay very slowly, again
indicating it has some mass. Our radar data suggests it is probably in a
very slow rotation. We may never know if it is N-Cube, but I strongly
suspect that it is.
Happy New Year to all
Taft
_____________________
G. Taft DeVere, GS-14
HQ AFSPC/XPY
719-556-3708
DSN 834-3708
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Melville [mailto:nmelville@freenet.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:50 PM
To: Devere, George T GS-14 AFSPC/XPYC; Neil Melville; Ian Ashley; Radu
Barza; Freddy Pranajaya; missioncontrol@sseti.org; Amsat-bb;
ncube@rocketrange.no; STLee@calpoly.edu;
operation@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; g.shirville@btinternet.com; Yohko;
nakasuka@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; Neil Melville; graham@shirville.com;
Marianne Vinje Tantillo
Cc: Randolph, Jason C GS-13 AFSPC/XPYC
Subject: RE: Update- New Object near SSETI
Hi Taft,
A happy new year to you too!
Thanks very much for that calculation. It is quite close the expected
deployment velcoity, which probably rules out the "shaken loose"
possibility - since we assume that this would be a lower delta-v.
This leaves us with an activation of the pod itself electrically (SSETI
Express trying to come back to life) or mechanically (the nylon wire
snapping). At least it narrows down our options! It certainly suggests
that the pod didn't open the first time around.
It would still be very interesting to know the other deployment
velocities to compare, if and when you have time.
Once again, many many thanks for all your hard work lately, I understand
you've been pretty busy, as well as it being the holiday period. It is
much appreciated.
Best regards,
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: Devere, George T GS-14 AFSPC/XPYC
[mailto:Taft.Devere@PETERSON.af.mil]
Sent: 27 December 2005 17:27
To: Neil Melville; Ian Ashley; Radu Barza; Freddy Pranajaya;
missioncontrol@sseti.org; Amsat-bb; ncube@rocketrange.no;
STLee@calpoly.edu; operation@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp;
g.shirville@btinternet.com; Yohko; nakasuka@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; Neil
Melville; graham@shirville.com; Marianne Vinje Tantillo
Cc: Randolph, Jason C GS-13 AFSPC/XPYC
Subject: RE: Update- New Object near SSETI
Happy New Year. We have calculated the initial delta V of the new
object away from SSETI and it was somewhere near 0.58 meters/sec. We
will get the historical data on the other Cubesat deployments and let
you know the delta-v for them shortly.
Taft
_____________________
G. Taft DeVere, GS-14
HQ AFSPC/XPY
719-556-3708
DSN 834-3708
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Melville [mailto:nmelville@freenet.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 4:19 AM
To: Devere, George T GS-14 AFSPC/XPYC; Ian Ashley; Radu Barza; Freddy
Pranajaya; missioncontrol@sseti.org; Amsat-bb; ncube@rocketrange.no;
STLee@calpoly.edu; operation@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp;
g.shirville@btinternet.com; Yohko; nakasuka@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; Neil
Melville; graham@shirville.com; Marianne Vinje Tantillo
Cc: Randolph, Jason C GS-13 AFSPC/XPYC
Subject: RE: Update- New Object near SSETI
Hi Taft,
One question: is there any way that you can derive the approximate
initial delta-v of the object from SSETI Express, and then compare it to
the other two Cubesat delta-v's? This would give us a very strong
indication at whether we ar elooking at a "shaken loose" scenario, or
an actual deployment.
We are working hard to listen for NCube and for SSETI, and appreciate
all your help - especially in this holiday period!
Many thanks and best regards,
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: Devere, George T GS-14 AFSPC/XPYC
[mailto:Taft.Devere@PETERSON.af.mil]
Sent: 22 December 2005 22:46
To: Ian Ashley; Radu Barza; Freddy Pranajaya; missioncontrol@sseti.org;
Amsat-bb; ncube@rocketrange.no; STLee@calpoly.edu;
operation@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; g.shirville@btinternet.com; Yohko;
nakasuka@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; Neil Melville; graham@shirville.com;
Marianne Vinje Tantillo
Cc: Randolph, Jason C GS-13 AFSPC/XPYC
Subject: Update- New Object near SSETI
Greetings- Although the element sets on the new object are readily
available on the Space-track.org website, I wanted to supply the latest
directly to you. We continue to track this object reliably with our
radars, and it is slowly moving away from SSETI. This leads us to the
conclusion that the object is not a lightweight piece of foil or Mylar
type material, since these decay more quickly. This is also reflected
in the very small Ndot term in the element set. So it seems likely to
us that this is likely an object with some mass, and our radars report
it is quite small.
Best wishes in your efforts to contact this object. We would be
interested if you make contact, so please let us know if you have
success.
Taft
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_____________________
G. Taft DeVere, GS-14
HQ AFSPC/XPY
You should still kill yourself, though.
Somo: [ams-bb] Asante Taft !!
Kutoka: "Bill Ress"
Tarehe: Tarehe 29 Desemba 2005 19:21:35 -0800
In-Reply-To: <8488E23095C0044597C202E07C74322B012CE203@ENPEFRML20.frontrange.afspc.ds.af.mil>
Taft,
Mimi binafsi nataka kukushukuru kwa jitihada zako, kwanza katika kutambua nini
uwezekano wa kupelekwa kwa N-cube na kisha kutupa
data ya delta-v. Maoni yako kuhusu kasi ya ejection ya baadaye itakuwa vizuri
alibainisha kwenye thread ya AMSAT na tunatarajia kwa bidii baadaye yako
sasisho na usaidizi.
Mimi, kama wengine wengi, nitaendelea kusikiliza kwa N-cube iwezekanavyo
ishara za maisha na SSETI ili kuona ikiwa kupelekwa husababisha kuanza tena.
Asante tena na Mwaka Mpya Mpya - - - Bill N6GHz
----- Ujumbe wa awali -----
Kutoka: mmiliki-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org [mailto: mmiliki-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org] On
Kwa niaba ya Devere, George T GS-14 AFSPC / XPYC
Iliyotumwa: Alhamisi, Desemba 29, 2005 3:50 alasiri
Kwa: Neil Melville; Ian Ashley; Radu Barza; Freddy Pranajaya;
missioncontrol@sseti.org; Ams-bb; ncube@rocketrange.no;
STLee@calpoly.edu; operation@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp;
g.shirville@btinternet.com; Yohko; nakasuka@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; Neil
Melville; graham@shirville.com; Marianne Vinje Tantillo
Cc: Randolph, Jason C GS-13 AFSPC / XPYC
Somo: [ams-bb] RE: Sasisha- Kitu kipya karibu na SSETI
Neil- Umekuwa na kazi hapa- tumekuwa na rundo la kufurahisha kwa kuvutia
siku chache zilizopita!
Vinginevyote, kujibu swali lako la delta V kwenye Cubes nyingine: Kama wewe
tunajua, tumekuwa na ugumu fulani katika kutambua Cubesats nyingine mbili katika
mtindo wakati wa kuhamia kutoka kwa SSETI. Kwa sababu walihamia mbali
kwa polepole, tuna tangle kubwa ya data. Kwa wakati tulikuwa na uwezo
kwa kwa makini kuchunguza Cubesats mbili, siku kadhaa (karibu wiki) alikuwa
ilipita. Tunapotangaza nyuma kwa wakati huu, hatuna
kujiamini nzuri katika matokeo yetu. Tunapata matokeo, lakini nina sana
ujasiri mdogo kwamba wao ni nambari halali hivyo sitawapitia
kando.
Kwa hiyo, siamini kwamba tunaweza kusaidia kwa nambari za V delta V halali
Cubes nyingine. Hii haina kuongeza hatua ya kuvutia kwa siku zijazo.
Labda kunaweza kuwa na njia ya kuepuka Cubesats hizi kwa juu
velocities, ili waweze kuondoka kwa uzazi haraka zaidi.
Hii ingeweza kuongeza uwezo wetu wa kuwachagua zaidi
haraka. Sina uhakika jinsi ya kuwasiliana na aina hii ya habari
kwa jamii ya Cubesat, hivyo ingeweza kufahamu mawazo yoyote katika hili
tazama. Kwa kuwa matatizo yanaweza kutokea na waendeshaji wa Cubesat ujao wanaweza
wanahitaji kupata habari kutoka kwetu, inaweza kuwa manufaa kwa
kuchunguza hii zaidi. Tafadhali napenda kujua nini unafikiri.
Hatimaye, kumbuka kwamba kitu kipya kinaendelea kuoza pole polepole, tena
kuonyesha kwamba ina molekuli fulani. Takwimu zetu za rada zinaonyesha ni pengine katika
mzunguko wa polepole sana. Hatuwezi kujua kama ni N-Cube, lakini mimi sana
mtuhumiwa kuwa ni.
Mwaka Mpya wa Furaha kwa wote
Taft
_____________________
G. Taft DeVere, GS-14
HQ AFSPC / XPY
719-556-3708
DSN 834-3708
----- Ujumbe wa awali -----
Kutoka: Neil Melville [barua pepe: nmelville@freenet.co.uk]
Iliyotumwa: Alhamisi, Desemba 29, 2005 2:50 alasiri
Kwa: Devere, George T GS-14 AFSPC / XPYC; Neil Melville; Ian Ashley; Radu
Barza; Freddy Pranajaya; missioncontrol@sseti.org; Ams-bb;
ncube@rocketrange.no; STLee@calpoly.edu;
operation@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; g.shirville@btinternet.com; Yohko;
nakasuka@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; Neil Melville; graham@shirville.com;
Marianne Vinje Tantillo
Cc: Randolph, Jason C GS-13 AFSPC / XPYC
Somo: RE: Sasisha- Kitu kipya karibu na SSETI
Hi Taft,
Mwaka mpya wa furaha na wewe pia!
Asante sana kwa hesabu hiyo. Ni karibu kabisa kutarajiwa
kupelekwa velcoity, ambayo huenda inasimamia nje "kufungiwa huru"
uwezekano - kwa kuwa tunadhani kwamba hii itakuwa delta-v chini.
Hii inatuacha na uanzishaji wa pod yenyewe umeme (SSETI
Onyesha kujaribu kurudi) au mechanically (wire nylon
kupiga picha). Angalau hupunguza chaguzi zetu! Hakika inaonyesha
kwamba poda haikufungua mara ya kwanza kote.
Bado ingekuwa ya kuvutia sana kujua uhamisho mwingine
velocities kulinganisha, ikiwa na wakati una wakati.
Mara nyingine tena, shukrani nyingi kwa kazi yako yote ngumu hivi karibuni, naelewa
umepata kazi nyingi, pamoja na kuwa kipindi cha likizo. Ni
sana appreciated.
Kila la heri,
Neil
----- Ujumbe wa awali -----
Kutoka: Devere, George T GS-14 AFSPC / XPYC
[mailto: Taft.Devere@PETERSON.af.mil]
Iliyotumwa: 22 Desemba 2005 22:46
Kwa: Ian Ashley; Radu Barza; Freddy Pranajaya; missioncontrol@sseti.org;
Ams-bb; ncube@rocketrange.no; STLee@calpoly.edu;
operation@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; g.shirville@btinternet.com; Yohko;
nakasuka@space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp; Neil Melville; graham@shirville.com;
Marianne Vinje Tantillo
Cc: Randolph, Jason C GS-13 AFSPC / XPYC
Somo: Sasisho- Jipya Jipya karibu na SSETI
Salamu - Ingawa kipengele kinachoweka kwenye kitu kipya ni kwa urahisi
inapatikana kwenye tovuti ya Space-track.org, nilitaka kutoa bidhaa za hivi karibuni
moja kwa moja kwako. Tunaendelea kufuatilia kitu hiki kwa uhakika na yetu
rada, na polepole huhamia kutoka kwa SSETI. Hii inatuongoza kwenye
hitimisho kuwa kitu si kipande nyepesi cha foil au Mylar
nyaraka za aina, tangu kuharibika kwa haraka zaidi. Hii pia inaonekana
kwa muda mfupi mdogo wa Ndot katika kuweka kipengele. Kwa hiyo inaonekana inawezekana
sisi kwamba hii inawezekana kuwa kitu na molekuli fulani, na rada zetu zinaripoti
ni ndogo sana.
Bora zaidi katika jitihada zako za kuwasiliana na kitu hiki. Tutakuwa
nia ikiwa unawasiliana, tafadhali tafadhali tujulishe ikiwa una
mafanikio.
Taft
1 28897U 05043H 05356.70226803 .00000182 00000-0 48118-4 0 58
2 28897 098.1779 252.6230 0017791 005.4499 354.6921 14.59489332 382
_____________________
G. Taft DeVere, GS-14
HQ AFSPC / XPY
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