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I hated Obama because he needed that weak ass lefthanded crossfaced excuse for a jump shot slapped up into the third row.
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So that's two votes for "I only hated the white half of him".PurpleThrobber said:I hated Obama because he needed that weak ass lefthanded crossfaced excuse for a jump shot slapped up into the third row.
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I hated both halves because elitism.dnc said:
So that's two votes for "I only hated the white half of him".PurpleThrobber said:I hated Obama because he needed that weak ass lefthanded crossfaced excuse for a jump shot slapped up into the third row.
Got it. -
HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
This.
This is why Hillary lost; because everybody with a half-a-brain knew she was for the status quo. -
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That and the sentiment that if you didn't vote for her regardless because it was her turn and she was a woman then you are a shithead.pawz said:HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
This.
This is why Hillary lost; because everybody with a half-a-brain knew she was for the status quo. -
I didn't hate him I just thought he was an awful guy to have in the oval officecreepycoug said:
I hated both halves because elitism.dnc said:
So that's two votes for "I only hated the white half of him".PurpleThrobber said:I hated Obama because he needed that weak ass lefthanded crossfaced excuse for a jump shot slapped up into the third row.
Got it.
PS I would vote for Inslee just to get him the hell out of here. -
Says the english elitist.creepycoug said:
I hated both halves because elitism.dnc said:
So that's two votes for "I only hated the white half of him".PurpleThrobber said:I hated Obama because he needed that weak ass lefthanded crossfaced excuse for a jump shot slapped up into the third row.
Got it. -
The wave of anger that Trump surfed to victory isn't just a domestic phenomenon. For years Europe and Canada have been testing grounds for the globalist agenda of socialism, open borders and police state crackdowns on free speech. People with half a brain hate all that shit--especially in America, the nation that is the gold standard of freedom.
People have been paying attention. They saw how Merkel's open border policies led to the invasion of Europe by people from cultures that are incompatible with the values of the West. Now terrorist attacks are happening there every few weeks. They don't want that here. They know that Germany has strict gun control laws and that Merkel sends goons to raid homes of people who've posted the 'wrong' opinion about government policies on facebook. They know tech companies are willing accomplices in these crackdowns. They know that comedians are receiving 5 figure fines in Canada just for telling jokes. They see so called 'hate speech' laws for what they really are -- a doorway to government despotism. People HATE THAT SHIT. Democrats have been pimping this all for a long time, and the more they double down on the radicalism, the more people will wake up, recognize the threat and neutralize it permanently.
Trump is the atomic bomb that we? the people have dropped on their fucking asses. And the regressive left still haven't learned the lessons of Trump's election because they really have regressed, to the point that they've become ignorant and stupid--the same accusations they level against the other side. They are still underestimating the sheer level of rage, intelligence, awareness and the will of the opposition to preserve the America that was created by our founders. Democrats haven't learned their lesson, and really I hope they never do, because the American experiment won't survive much longer under their leadership. -
Repeal Obamacare, & nafta?oregonblitzkrieg said:The wave of anger that Trump surfed to victory isn't just a domestic phenomenon. For years Europe and Canada have been testing grounds for the globalist agenda of socialism, open borders and police state crackdowns on free speech. People with half a brain hate all that shit--especially in America, the nation that is the gold standard of freedom.
People have been paying attention. They saw how Merkel's open border policies led to the invasion of Europe by people from cultures that are incompatible with the values of the West. Now terrorist attacks are happening there every few weeks. They don't want that here. They know that Germany has strict gun control laws and that Merkel sends goons to raid homes of people who've posted the 'wrong' opinion about government policies on facebook. They know tech companies are willing accomplices in these crackdowns. They know that comedians are receiving 5 figure fines in Canada just for telling jokes. They see so called 'hate speech' laws for what they really are -- a doorway to government despotism. People HATE THAT SHIT. Democrats have been pimping this all for a long time, and the more they double down on the radicalism, the more people will wake up, recognize the threat and neutralize it permanently.
Trump is the atomic bomb that we? the people have dropped on their fucking asses. And the regressive left still haven't learned the lessons of Trump's election because they really have regressed, to the point that they've become ignorant and stupid--the same accusations they level against the other side. They are still underestimating the sheer level of rage, intelligence, awareness and the will of the opposition to preserve the America that was created by our founders. Democrats haven't learned their lesson, and really I hope they never do, because the American experiment won't survive much longer under their leadership.
Impose tariffs?
Build a border wall?
Sign Paul Ryan’s tax bill?
Approve McConnell’s Supreme Court Justice?
Trump is a time bomb1!1!2
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@HardlyClothed post more.
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Fixed for you.allpurpleallgold said:@HardlyClothed post more selfies.
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The only thing Tump is gonna get reelected to, is "fuck toy of the week" by the biker gangs in cell block D.Swaye said:...when Trump gets reelected.
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Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut. -
Just like all Republicans do is sell lies. Like Obamacare will crater the economy. Tax cuts will increase revenue. Democrats are taking your guns. Planned Parenthood is selling aborted babies. Etc.salemcoog said:
Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut. -
I thought I told you to get back there and change the fryer oil.2001400ex said:
Just like all Republicans do is sell lies. Like Obamacare will crater the economy. Tax cuts will increase revenue. Democrats are taking your guns. Planned Parenthood is selling aborted babies. Etc.salemcoog said:
Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
And it’s clear in your case that Planned Parenthood failed us, just when we needed them most. So fuck them. -
Trump lost the popular vote, but. he loves the poorly educated joe lunch boxsalemcoog said:
Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
I thought I told you to increase revenue or I am going to shut you down. -
Pretty quick reply. Given that Stormy Daniels was on SNL tonight and all. Figured you’d be looking for more clues as how the TSIO for Trump. But then again after filling the load sock, all focus is lost,amiright???CirrhosisDawg said:
Trump lost the popular vote, but. he loves the poorly educated joe lunch boxsalemcoog said:
Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
I thought I told you to increase revenue or I am going to shut you down. -
Didn't think you had a response. I'm just glad that deficits don't matter anymore and we can use U3 unemployment and stock market values again as a measure of the economy.salemcoog said:
I thought I told you to get back there and change the fryer oil.2001400ex said:
Just like all Republicans do is sell lies. Like Obamacare will crater the economy. Tax cuts will increase revenue. Democrats are taking your guns. Planned Parenthood is selling aborted babies. Etc.salemcoog said:
Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
And it’s clear in your case that Planned Parenthood failed us, just when we needed them most. So fuck them. -
Beats removing millions from the unemployment rolls to reduce unemployment.2001400ex said:
Didn't think you had a response. I'm just glad that deficits don't matter anymore and we can use U3 unemployment and stock market values again as a measure of the economy.salemcoog said:
I thought I told you to get back there and change the fryer oil.2001400ex said:
Just like all Republicans do is sell lies. Like Obamacare will crater the economy. Tax cuts will increase revenue. Democrats are taking your guns. Planned Parenthood is selling aborted babies. Etc.salemcoog said:
Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
And it’s clear in your case that Planned Parenthood failed us, just when we needed them most. So fuck them. -
Respond to what????2001400ex said:
Didn't think you had a response. I'm just glad that deficits don't matter anymore and we can use U3 unemployment and stock market values again as a measure of the economy.salemcoog said:
I thought I told you to get back there and change the fryer oil.2001400ex said:
Just like all Republicans do is sell lies. Like Obamacare will crater the economy. Tax cuts will increase revenue. Democrats are taking your guns. Planned Parenthood is selling aborted babies. Etc.salemcoog said:
Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
And it’s clear in your case that Planned Parenthood failed us, just when we needed them most. So fuck them.
You can't even keep track of whose roasting you anymore.
Sad. -
Lol ok!!!salemcoog said:
Respond to what????2001400ex said:
Didn't think you had a response. I'm just glad that deficits don't matter anymore and we can use U3 unemployment and stock market values again as a measure of the economy.salemcoog said:
I thought I told you to get back there and change the fryer oil.2001400ex said:
Just like all Republicans do is sell lies. Like Obamacare will crater the economy. Tax cuts will increase revenue. Democrats are taking your guns. Planned Parenthood is selling aborted babies. Etc.salemcoog said:
Great. So what is going to motivate these people to switch back to voting Democrat? All Democrats do is promote victimology and free shit for the poor. Joe Lunchbox doesn’t want his hard earned tax dollars to pay for that shit and feels these people should get off their ass and get a real job.HardlyClothed said:
Of course I don’t think Joe Lunchbox has a nuanced understanding of the labor theory of value but he’s not stupid enough to see that his material interests have been damaged by both political parties for the last 30+ years.creepycoug said:
Dude. You. Are. Presuming. Too. Much.HardlyClothed said:
This is correct.GrundleStiltzkin said:creepycoug said:
Ok man. I guess the rest of us missed it. Remember, it's not just the candidate ... it's what the candidate's party is doing.HardlyClothed said:
What the hell are you talking about? Hillary spent the entire campaign trying to reach out to moderate Republicans instead of making concessions the progressive base.creepycoug said:
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
If you don't remember bathrooms, deplorables, e-mail servers, gay marriage! and Obamacare, then I just can't help you.
Oh, I'm well aware that Hillary isn't nearly as liberal in real life as she pretends to be, but her public face is all about that other shit. Yeah, she was centrist relative to Bernie, who actually lets people call him a socialist w/o fighting back. Compared to him, I see your point.
You have a lot of work to do before you convince me that she lost because not enuff bleeding hearts turned out to vote. We all know that was reported, and likely played a part, but I'm pretty suspect about placing too much emphasis on precise statistics concerning things that "didn't happen." Know what I mean?
The Hillary and the entire party blew it. Just admit it and move on.
If you can’t put together how our political shift (in both parties) towards unfettered capitalism is and has been failing the majority of working class people since the 1980’s and the resulting failure of neoliberalism in the Democratic party then you don’t truly understand why Hillary lost.
Do you REALLY think that moderate democrats are contemplating the implications of "unfettered capitalism" and musing about "neoliberalism"? Axe Sledog if he knows what those words mean, and you'll get an idea of who fs this is.
I suppose you think that Joe Lunchbox reads Das Kapital and Wealth of Nations on his smoke breaks.
And we haven't moved towards unfettered capitalism. Read a Dickens novel if you want to know what that really looks like.
Trump's policies most closely mirror classic Democratic populism ... the kind of shit that is popular with unions and blue collar, lower middle-class working stiffs. You know, protectionism, tarriffs, "America first" and all that shit. There is nothing unfettered about it, unless you're choosing to just focus on the tax cut.
And it’s clear in your case that Planned Parenthood failed us, just when we needed them most. So fuck them.
You can't even keep track of whose roasting you anymore.
Sad. -
Television matters to voters. Hillary is always bad on TV and widely reviled anyway, so all Trump had to do was remain standing to steal swing-voters from her. And it worked spectacularly for him.HardlyClothed said:
You followed the 2016 election and actually thought: 1. Trump was good in the debates, and 2. The debates matter to votersTurdBuffer said:
I liked Bernie at first. But he became a Sawant-like one-trick-pony way early, and steadily went downhill from there. His Free College for Everyone idea proved he was already suffering from senility and dementia.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
And Trump would've slaughtered him in TV in the debates. That's Trump's home field.
Moron -
The wave of anger that Trump surfed to victory isn't just a domestic phenomenon. For years Europe and Canada have been testing grounds for the globalist agenda of socialism, open borders and police state crackdowns on free speech. People with half a brain hate all that shit--especially in America, the nation that is the gold standard of freedom.
People have been paying attention. They saw how Merkel's open border policies led to the invasion of Europe by people from cultures that are incompatible with the values of the West. Now terrorist attacks are happening there every few weeks. They don't want that here. They know that Germany has strict gun control laws and that Merkel sends goons to raid homes of people who've posted the 'wrong' opinion about government policies on facebook. They know tech companies are willing accomplices in these crackdowns. They know that comedians are receiving 5 figure fines in Canada just for telling jokes. They see so called 'hate speech' laws for what they really are -- a doorway to government despotism. People HATE THAT SHIT. Democrats have been pimping this all for a long time, and the more they double down on the radicalism, the more people will wake up, recognize the threat and neutralize it permanently.
Trump is the atomic bomb that we? the people have dropped on their fucking asses. And the regressive left still haven't learned the lessons of Trump's election because they really have regressed, to the point that they've become ignorant and stupid--the same accusations they level against the other side. They are still underestimating the sheer level of rage, intelligence, awareness and the will of the opposition to preserve the America that was created by our founders. Democrats haven't learned their lesson, and really I hope they never do, because the American experiment won't survive much longer under their leadership.
This, this and this again. Forever Freedom-Fighting@oregonblitzkrieg, for the win. -
The progressives can't figure this shit out. People don't like to be told what to fucking do.
And then they try to pigeonhole and label folks into some political identity silo based on sweeping generalizations that bear no resemblance to core beliefs and values.
Dumbfucks.
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I prefer lurking to posting but the misunderstanding of the American left and its divisions briefly drew me out of my caveallpurpleallgold said:@HardlyClothed post more.
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Get an avatar or kill yourself.HardlyClothed said:
I prefer lurking to posting but the misunderstanding of the American left and its divisions briefly drew me out of my caveallpurpleallgold said:@HardlyClothed post more.
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I'm goin with a clear case of Abundance in this one.Swaye said:
Get an avatar or kill yourself.HardlyClothed said:
I prefer lurking to posting but the misunderstanding of the American left and its divisions briefly drew me out of my caveallpurpleallgold said:@HardlyClothed post more.
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Huh?Swaye said:
Get an avatar or kill yourself.HardlyClothed said:
I prefer lurking to posting but the misunderstanding of the American left and its divisions briefly drew me out of my caveallpurpleallgold said:@HardlyClothed post more.
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True. She doesn't appeal. If you like her politics you have to remind yourself she's your gal because she's so alienating to the average person. I think there's a long and chintresting story behind why she is the way she is, but that doesn't get you elected. She'll never be president.TurdBuffer said:
Television matters to voters. Hillary is always bad on TV and widely reviled anyway, so all Trump had to do was remain standing to steal swing-voters from her. And it worked spectacularly for him.HardlyClothed said:
You followed the 2016 election and actually thought: 1. Trump was good in the debates, and 2. The debates matter to votersTurdBuffer said:
I liked Bernie at first. But he became a Sawant-like one-trick-pony way early, and steadily went downhill from there. His Free College for Everyone idea proved he was already suffering from senility and dementia.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
And Trump would've slaughtered him in TV in the debates. That's Trump's home field.
Moron
Let keep she said at one of the debates: she's not good at it. Obama and Bill are REALLy good at it. She's terrible. -
Bill is one of the best. No one gave a fuck about the Monica thing.
Although nowadays that would be more horribly seen than it was at the time.
He's just a likeable dude.
