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Amazon leaving Seattle update

RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
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https://seattletimes.com/business/amazon/amazon-pauses-plans-for-seattle-office-towers-while-city-council-considers-business-tax/


Looks like I was right

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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    MikeDamone said:

    It’s all a prefectly executed plan. Get a “second headquarters” then phase out the Seattle headquarters. Bezos is a libertarian. He won’t put up with seattle bullshit longer than he needs to.

    There's no income tax in the state of Washington. Bezos isn't going anywhere.
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    MikeDamone said:

    It’s all a prefectly executed plan. Get a “second headquarters” then phase out the Seattle headquarters. Bezos is a libertarian. He won’t put up with seattle bullshit longer than he needs to.

    There's no income tax in the state of Washington. Bezos isn't going anywhere.
    He won't move just his company.
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,400 Founders Club
    Anyone know a good realtor I could call if I need my house sold?
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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited May 2018
    MikeDamone said:

    It’s all a prefectly executed plan. Get a “second headquarters” then phase out the Seattle headquarters. Bezos is a libertarian. He won’t put up with seattle bullshit longer than he needs to.

    He can pretend to be whatever he wants to be, but no one gives a shit because actions speak louder than words. Amazon is a class act government teat suckler, to the tune of about $1.4 billion in government subsidies -- https://goodjobsfirst.org/amazon-tracker

    A libertarian writes,

    Subsidies are when the government takes tax money from you by force, and spends it on something you would not be willing to pay for in the free market. Subsidies support questionable or obsolete businesses in the name of the public interest because the government does not trust us to do whats good for us on our own.
     -- libertarianviewpoint.com/blog/libertarian-viewpoint-on-subsidies/

    Also,

    "A core belief of libertarianism is that ideas will prevail in a free marketplace. And if you know about markets, you know the key to making them efficient and fair is for as many players to have as much information as possible." https://theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2013/aug/16/jeff-bezos-washington-post

    But how exactly do free markets square with Amazon's anti-trust activities and the fact that Amazon's intention is to BECOME the marketplace?

    https://newrepublic.com/article/143376/amazon-changing-whole-concept-monopoly

    https://thenation.com/article/amazon-doesnt-just-want-to-dominate-the-market-it-wants-to-become-the-market/
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    Same old thing. If Seattle City High Council believes taxing soda pop will deter that behavior, they should not be surprised with taxing employment deters the same.
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    RedRocket said:

    The employee tax is FS stupid and Amazon is sending the right signal with this move. Amazon isnt leaving Seattle though. They've invested too much into developing South Lake Union and they are hard wired into the Westin Data Center which is a major internet hub that you just can't pick up and move somewhere else. HQ2 will pick up employees that Seattle doesn't really have room to accommodate.

    Amazon has transformed south lake union: 12 million square feet of office space spread over 40 buildings since 2010. It has built a brand new urban campus. Both amazon and Seattle need to end the reliance on each other. A second campus in another city is the best thing for both. This has nothing to do with Seattle’s anti-free market policies however. Amazon’s Seattle corporate presence and its 30,000 Seattle employees aren’t going anywhere.
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    RaceBannon said:

    Sure.gif

    The goalposts keep moving. From Day 1 I said that HQ2 was subterfuge and it is

    Boeing would never leave Seattle either

    You keep electing morons and this is what you get.

    Office space is office space and data isn't locked in a safe anymore

    In fact office space will be like a buggy manufacturing plant in 20 years. Who works in an office anymore? Poor people?

    It was a sad day when they started building 787s, 777s, and 737s Chicago office buildings that are now obsolete.
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  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,526
    edited May 2018
    Who is surprised by this? @GrandpaSankey could have spotted this move coming from a mile away.

    My sources tell me that this is also not a political bluff to deter the Council from approving the tax.
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    I like to call workplaces 'campuses.' That's what I like to do, because I'm a retard like that.

    Mutually adjacent office buildings situated for the purpose of a promoting an enterprise. Food courts. Child care. Dog parks. Entertainment. “Spheres” for out-of-office time. All along the same neighborhood streets. 12 million square feet of space and more being built. 30,000 employees in a handful of square blocks. Yeah, it’s a campus. Just like oregon’s but far larger and way more successful.
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    RaceBannon said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    I like to call workplaces 'campuses.' That's what I like to do, because I'm a retard like that.

    Mutually adjacent office buildings situated for the purpose of a promoting an enterprise. Food courts. Child care. Dog parks. Entertainment. “Spheres” for out-of-office time. All along the same neighborhood streets. 12 million square feet of space and more being built. 30,000 employees in a handful of square blocks. Yeah, it’s a campus. Just like oregon’s but far larger and way more successful.
    Sounds like a Company Store to me designed to exploit workers

    Sad
    Sure.gif
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club

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