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Round 1 - #6 Bruce Springsteen vs #11 Ramones

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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #11 The Ramones
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    David Bowie was not Punk.

    The Pistols got their musical direction from the Ramones: ask the Pistols - they basically formed when the Ramones played in the UK.

    The proto-punk bands were the Stooges and the MC5. Both were amazing.
    Disagree.

    This is Punk and it's before any of those bitch hipped Ramones fags did anything.

    https://youtu.be/zLnPd7lzT4g
    No.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhQRFO4M7A
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    #6 Bruce Springsteen

    The Ramones are top 10 rock band. Bruce is a fag for white people who don't understand irony and middle class Black people like Obama that need to say they like a white guy, even though they really don't and he seems relatively enjoyable on some level.

    Bruce started out as a bad Bob Dylan fake then on his trajectory toward adult contemporary artist, he hit a sweet spot with Born to Run. Everything else is garbage.


    Anyone saying the Ramones are posers has no fucking idea what the Ramones are. They basically started a genre of music that didn't exist - taking what was good from early rock and what was good from heavy rock and mixed them. Their lyrical themes were (although not to my taste per se) groundbreaking in their 'outsider' vibe (although their songs like Rockaway Beach were sort of a fast strategy white guy update of a Chuck Berry/Beach Boys narrative).

    And they did it all with total lack of self-awareness. Their fucking main songwriter had a lobotomy for fuck's sake - and after the Ramones, he unironically tried to be a rapper named Dee Dee King.

    Christ.
    Yes and Columbus discovered America.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #11 The Ramones
    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are top 10 rock band. Bruce is a fag for white people who don't understand irony and middle class Black people like Obama that need to say they like a white guy, even though they really don't and he seems relatively enjoyable on some level.

    Bruce started out as a bad Bob Dylan fake then on his trajectory toward adult contemporary artist, he hit a sweet spot with Born to Run. Everything else is garbage.


    Anyone saying the Ramones are posers has no fucking idea what the Ramones are. They basically started a genre of music that didn't exist - taking what was good from early rock and what was good from heavy rock and mixed them. Their lyrical themes were (although not to my taste per se) groundbreaking in their 'outsider' vibe (although their songs like Rockaway Beach were sort of a fast strategy white guy update of a Chuck Berry/Beach Boys narrative).

    And they did it all with total lack of self-awareness. Their fucking main songwriter had a lobotomy for fuck's sake - and after the Ramones, he unironically tried to be a rapper named Dee Dee King.

    Christ.
    Yes and Columbus discovered America.
    I discovered you're a fag.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    #6 Bruce Springsteen

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    David Bowie was not Punk.

    The Pistols got their musical direction from the Ramones: ask the Pistols - they basically formed when the Ramones played in the UK.

    The proto-punk bands were the Stooges and the MC5. Both were amazing.
    Disagree.

    This is Punk and it's before any of those bitch hipped Ramones fags did anything.

    https://youtu.be/zLnPd7lzT4g
    No.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhQRFO4M7A
    That'd be some Punk for Fags for sure.

    Fuck Ram Jam singing Black Betty is more Punk than that shit.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,880
    #6 Bruce Springsteen

    Opposite of abundance

    Lot of soul searching for me on this one. The 1st Ramones LP and the 3rd, Rocket to Russia are amongst my all time favs. Their influence cannot be overstated I think on the history of rock music. All that said, Jake Browning sucks, and Springsteen has mor great albums and a creative peak that lasted much longer- i.e, 1973- 87. Ramones started to run out of good ideas after only a few years.
    I was really close to going The Ramones for the reasons mentioned ... if I’m picking one song out of both combined category it’s I Want To Be Sedated.

    Ultimately, longevity wins out ... but barely
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,435 Founders Club
    #6 Bruce Springsteen

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    David Bowie was not Punk.

    The Pistols got their musical direction from the Ramones: ask the Pistols - they basically formed when the Ramones played in the UK.

    The proto-punk bands were the Stooges and the MC5. Both were amazing.
    Bowie wasn't punk but he did influence it.

    Don't forget the New York Dolls in that mix with the Stooges and MC5 of important proto punk acts.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #11 The Ramones
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    David Bowie was not Punk.

    The Pistols got their musical direction from the Ramones: ask the Pistols - they basically formed when the Ramones played in the UK.

    The proto-punk bands were the Stooges and the MC5. Both were amazing.
    Disagree.

    This is Punk and it's before any of those bitch hipped Ramones fags did anything.

    https://youtu.be/zLnPd7lzT4g
    No.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhQRFO4M7A
    That'd be some Punk for Fags for sure.

    Fuck Ram Jam singing Black Betty is more Punk than that shit.
    Chinned for a good insult, but you're wrong.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,435 Founders Club
    #6 Bruce Springsteen
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    You're missing the point. New Wave doesn't happen unless Punk happens first and tears up the script.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #11 The Ramones

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    You're missing the point. New Wave doesn't happen unless Punk happens first and tears up the script.
    All New Wave should be shot.

    New Wave was just an excuse for the Cars to Trojan Horse their way into MTV and show everyone why all musical genres will eventually be lifeless zombies, devoid of any meaning or enjoyable characteristics. Just surface features that reflect the vapidity of society at large.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Kv6vxZwL8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dOx510kyOs
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    #6 Bruce Springsteen

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    You're missing the point. New Wave doesn't happen unless Punk happens first and tears up the script.
    All New Wave should be shot.

    New Wave was just an excuse for the Cars to Trojan Horse their way into MTV and show everyone why all musical genres will eventually be lifeless zombies, devoid of any meaning or enjoyable characteristics. Just surface features that reflect the vapidity of society at large.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Kv6vxZwL8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dOx510kyOs
    The later Cars stuff definitely sucked ass. Such as the videos you showed. But the 70's- early 80's Cars stuff was very good.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    edited April 2018
    #11 The Ramones
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    You're missing the point. New Wave doesn't happen unless Punk happens first and tears up the script.
    All New Wave should be shot.

    New Wave was just an excuse for the Cars to Trojan Horse their way into MTV and show everyone why all musical genres will eventually be lifeless zombies, devoid of any meaning or enjoyable characteristics. Just surface features that reflect the vapidity of society at large.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Kv6vxZwL8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dOx510kyOs
    The later Cars stuff definitely sucked ass. Such as the videos you showed. But the 70's- early 80's Cars stuff was very good.
    I mean, they had to Trojan Horse in. The Late 70s was confusing as mass-market rock was dying.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpA3NVafsdo
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    #6 Bruce Springsteen

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    You're missing the point. New Wave doesn't happen unless Punk happens first and tears up the script.
    I can't disagree with this.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,739
    #11 The Ramones

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    You're missing the point. New Wave doesn't happen unless Punk happens first and tears up the script.
    Not a poont in punk's favor
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    #6 Bruce Springsteen

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The Ramones are posers who did nothing but plagiarize.shit.fucko. I'm guessing it's the millenial fags that are driving their success here.

    You know like the ones that never saw them gayme.

    Plagiarizing shit my ass fucko. They tore up the script basically got the whole Punk and New Wave thing going.
    Kreist. Right because noone had ever heard of the Stooges, Pistols or Bowie before them.

    And New Wave isn't anything close to Punk.

    But then again you had Elvis fucking Costello in this shit tourney....




    David Bowie was not Punk.

    The Pistols got their musical direction from the Ramones: ask the Pistols - they basically formed when the Ramones played in the UK.

    The proto-punk bands were the Stooges and the MC5. Both were amazing.
    Bowie wasn't punk but he did influence it.

    Don't forget the New York Dolls in that mix with the Stooges and MC5 of important proto punk acts.
    Of the Long Island Johansen's???


    He sure sold out later on, didn't He, with that whole Buster Poindexter thing,
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,494 Founders Club
    #11 The Ramones

    The Ramones are top 10 rock band. Bruce is a fag for white people who don't understand irony and middle class Black people like Obama that need to say they like a white guy, even though they really don't and he seems relatively enjoyable on some level.

    Bruce started out as a bad Bob Dylan fake then on his trajectory toward adult contemporary artist, he hit a sweet spot with Born to Run. Everything else is garbage.

    This.
  • IPukeOregonGrellowIPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183
    #11 The Ramones

    Opposite of abundance

    Lot of soul searching for me on this one. The 1st Ramones LP and the 3rd, Rocket to Russia are amongst my all time favs. Their influence cannot be overstated I think on the history of rock music. All that said, Jake Browning sucks, and Springsteen has mor great albums and a creative peak that lasted much longer- i.e, 1973- 87. Ramones started to run out of good ideas after only a few years.
    Tom Waits covering Danny Says is proof The Ramones didn't run out of good ideas after a few years.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTiTUQtuBTU
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,435 Founders Club
    #6 Bruce Springsteen

    Opposite of abundance

    Lot of soul searching for me on this one. The 1st Ramones LP and the 3rd, Rocket to Russia are amongst my all time favs. Their influence cannot be overstated I think on the history of rock music. All that said, Jake Browning sucks, and Springsteen has mor great albums and a creative peak that lasted much longer- i.e, 1973- 87. Ramones started to run out of good ideas after only a few years.
    Tom Waits covering Danny Says is proof The Ramones didn't run out of good ideas after a few years.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTiTUQtuBTU
    Danny Says was recorded in 1980. Four years after their first LP. So not that far along in their career. Great song.
  • IPukeOregonGrellowIPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183
    #11 The Ramones

    Opposite of abundance

    Lot of soul searching for me on this one. The 1st Ramones LP and the 3rd, Rocket to Russia are amongst my all time favs. Their influence cannot be overstated I think on the history of rock music. All that said, Jake Browning sucks, and Springsteen has mor great albums and a creative peak that lasted much longer- i.e, 1973- 87. Ramones started to run out of good ideas after only a few years.
    Tom Waits covering Danny Says is proof The Ramones didn't run out of good ideas after a few years.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTiTUQtuBTU
    Danny Says was recorded in 1980. Four years after their first LP. So not that far along in their career. Great song.
    Four years and five albums. But we'll move a decade ahead into their career.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su0Hvt6hTmA


    The Ramones made ten years worth of great albums until Dee Dee finally entered rehab and Joey was sick of Johnny's shit. Bruce Springsteen stopped making good music after Nebraska and started writing songs for try-hard white guys.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    #11 The Ramones
    Entirely too many fucks given about both
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