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Miki Ah You, 2019 3* LB, Kahuku HS, HI (COMMITTED)

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  • ZoneUWZoneUW Member Posts: 794
    edited December 2018

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    He looks fast on tape, so I am not too worried about the 40.

    6'1 really isn't too small for an inside linebacker at all. Bobby Wagner, arguably the best inside linebacker in the NFL, is only 6'0. Ben Burr-Kirven was listed at 6'0 but probably closer to 5'11.

    Miki will add weight and his speed will improve with training from Socha, right now, he tackles well on tape and shoots to the ball carrier like a missile, I'm not too worried.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,597 Founders Club

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    It really isn’t. He’s not a blazer, but it’s electronic. A lot of high school football players aren’t trained to run 40’s.

    He’s undersized, but he’s pretty damn quick on film. He will be good if he recovers from the ACL.

    Sure tacklers who can make plays on the ball are needed on every team. This guy returns punts and looks natural.
    The one thing I'll give the camp circuit credit for is they are finally giving accurate 40 readings.

    I remember the early TBS days when every 2-star to 5-star on Scout had 4.4/4.5 next to their 40 stat.
  • DomicilloDomicillo Member Posts: 3,025

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?


    This kid is the biggest reason I’m excited about Miki
  • PassionPassion Member Posts: 4,622

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    I don't know whether his speed will be adequate. We're all just guessing.

    But there is speed and then there is football speed. Some guys just play much faster than their 40 time suggests. My favorite all-time example is Ronnie Lott. Dude ran a 4.9.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,437
    edited December 2018
    Domicillo said:

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    Considered by most going into this year to be the best linebacker in Hawaii. Has great relations with many top guys out there and is actual cousins with the #1 2021 OL. Plays for the second best team in Hawaii and was willing to commit in the spring to help kick off the whole poly movement this year. His tape is way better than his measurements would project, unlike Tufono for example. Sucks he got injured and missed pretty much his whole senior season but will early enroll in January.

    All of that is just stuff beyond whatever they think they can project him up to be. I trust coaches on this one and the best thing is he’s probably the fourth best LB we take this year.
    Taking the connections not the player. That actually makes s lot of sense. Don’t blame Pete for that, smart move.

    Regarding the player...he’s 10-15 pounds undersized and runs a 4.99 forty when he should be around 4.7 at worst with his current build. Without illegal substances, I’d like to see how the kid gains the weight and shred his time. Again though, taking one bench warmer to build the Poly pipeline is an easy trade off. Just don’t try and sell me on the kid himself. The kid isn’t a D1 player.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,437
    Passion said:

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    I don't know whether his speed will be adequate. We're all just guessing.

    But there is speed and then there is football speed. Some guys just play much faster than their 40 time suggests. My favorite all-time example is Ronnie Lott. Dude ran a 4.9.
    A 4.9 wasn’t slow in Lott’s time. Put Ronnie Lott in today’s NFL and he’s reading the back of a lot of jerseys. The new rules and speed today, makes defensive speed imperative. This has trickled into the college game as well.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,437
    Domicillo said:

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?


    This kid is the biggest reason I’m excited about Miki

    That’s fair...taking the third wheel to get the Belle of the ball. Good for Pete by playing the long game.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,437
    edited December 2018
    ZoneUW said:

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    He looks fast on tape, so I am not too worried about the 40.

    6'1 really isn't too small for an inside linebacker at all. Bobby Wagner, arguably the best inside linebacker in the NFL, is only 6'0. Ben Burr-Kirven was listed at 6'0 but probably closer to 5'11.

    Miki will add weight and his speed will improve with training from Socha, right now, he tackles well on tape and shoots to the ball carrier like a missile, I'm not too worried.
    I should be more specific. I’d be worried about his build. 216 for 6’1” is small in college. Also, adding build AND speed is harder than you think. Those two things usually don’t correlate well.
  • ThebourbinatorThebourbinator Member Posts: 664

    ZoneUW said:

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    He looks fast on tape, so I am not too worried about the 40.

    6'1 really isn't too small for an inside linebacker at all. Bobby Wagner, arguably the best inside linebacker in the NFL, is only 6'0. Ben Burr-Kirven was listed at 6'0 but probably closer to 5'11.

    Miki will add weight and his speed will improve with training from Socha, right now, he tackles well on tape and shoots to the ball carrier like a missile, I'm not too worried.
    I should be more specific. I’d be worried about his build. 216 for 6’1” is small in college. Also, adding build AND speed is harder than you think. Those two things usually don’t correlate well.
    The goal should be for him to not touch the field until at least RS sophomore year, if not RS junior, as it should be for most these kids. Either he pans out or he doesn’t. It would be great to have kids that are 6’3” 240 and ready to rock, but they are few and far between, and sign with Bama, or if they do come to some lowly p12 program like ours they aren’t done growing and grow out of the LB position, because god hates us so we can’t have nice things. No sense getting your panties in a bundle over 1 recruit.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    I've just always assumed he was banged up when he ran the 4.99. There's no way we recruited someone at that size with that true speed. He's a 4.8 guy at worst IMO.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    His shuttle speed is 4.4 and he got offered early by a ton of people including the ducks...he is plenty fast and he is fine.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,437
    edited December 2018

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    It really isn’t. He’s not a blazer, but it’s electronic. A lot of high school football players aren’t trained to run 40’s.

    He’s undersized, but he’s pretty damn quick on film. He will be good if he recovers from the ACL.

    Sure tacklers who can make plays on the ball are needed on every team. This guy returns punts and looks natural.
    This x 1,000,000,000. People thinking high school kids should be getting combine-level results continues to baffle me.
    I ran a 5.0 40 in high school. I was white and slow af.

    There's no fucking chance Ah You is .01 ticks faster than hs me.
    If he was hurt that makes since. But a 4.99 has to atleast make you wonder. For a linebacker that 40 time is slow as fuck. There are offensive linemen with faster 40 times

    Also, if you have an injury why would you even run the 40? It seems like that would do more harm than good...
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,437

    His shuttle speed is 4.4 and he got offered early by a ton of people including the ducks...he is plenty fast and he is fine.

    The Ducks sent out something like 300 offers. An offer from Oregon doesn’t mean anything. Also, a 4.4 shuttle time isn’t very good. A good time for a high schooler is around 4.2. So yeah he’s slow as fuck.
  • animateanimate Member Posts: 4,240

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    It really isn’t. He’s not a blazer, but it’s electronic. A lot of high school football players aren’t trained to run 40’s.

    He’s undersized, but he’s pretty damn quick on film. He will be good if he recovers from the ACL.

    Sure tacklers who can make plays on the ball are needed on every team. This guy returns punts and looks natural.
    This x 1,000,000,000. People thinking high school kids should be getting combine-level results continues to baffle me.
    I ran a 5.0 40 in high school. I was white and slow af.

    There's no fucking chance Ah You is .01 ticks faster than hs me.
    Was?
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    animate said:

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    It really isn’t. He’s not a blazer, but it’s electronic. A lot of high school football players aren’t trained to run 40’s.

    He’s undersized, but he’s pretty damn quick on film. He will be good if he recovers from the ACL.

    Sure tacklers who can make plays on the ball are needed on every team. This guy returns punts and looks natural.
    This x 1,000,000,000. People thinking high school kids should be getting combine-level results continues to baffle me.
    I ran a 5.0 40 in high school. I was white and slow af.

    There's no fucking chance Ah You is .01 ticks faster than hs me.
    Was?
    I identify as black and fast now.


  • animateanimate Member Posts: 4,240

    animate said:

    Did I read that right? 6’1” 216, running a 4.99? Small and slow...why the fuck would Pete want this kid?

    It really isn’t. He’s not a blazer, but it’s electronic. A lot of high school football players aren’t trained to run 40’s.

    He’s undersized, but he’s pretty damn quick on film. He will be good if he recovers from the ACL.

    Sure tacklers who can make plays on the ball are needed on every team. This guy returns punts and looks natural.
    This x 1,000,000,000. People thinking high school kids should be getting combine-level results continues to baffle me.
    I ran a 5.0 40 in high school. I was white and slow af.

    There's no fucking chance Ah You is .01 ticks faster than hs me.
    Was?
    I identify as black and fast now.


    I wanna know how you pulled that off becuz I'm ready for some wholesale changes in my life ...
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